the most important election of your lifetime: 2012 american general election thread

it wasn't a mistake, it was a mistime

i'm just saying it's hardly worth the conservative outrage we're seeing

believe me, i support the decision

oh sure yeah I didn't think you were unimpressed or anything, just saying, in the absence of anyone else rolling out banners

it's hardly worth the conservative outrage

It isn't the substance they are "outraged" over, but the symbolism they can attach to it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-picks-john-kerry-to-play-romney-in-mock-debate-rehearsals/2012/06/18/gJQABEctlV_story.html

haha?

I hope they leak some video of it at some point.

I wonder how much Kerry is reading into this. "We tried to get Two-Face from Batman, John, but turns out he's fictional. We do appreciate this."

Two-Face is the purported head of the GOP.

Road Trip Helps Romney Brush Up on Banter
By ASHLEY PARKER

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/19/us/politics/road-trip-helps-romney-brush-up-on-banter.html?hp

The NY Times covers the important issues--Romney on Wawa, delis and getting hoagies.

MSNBC earlier covered Romney pointing at a donut and saying I will have one of those uh things.

"Do you have a hoagie slash grinder slash sub slash foot-long hero, my good man?"

"One gut bomb, sirrah."

"Many thanks for the sandwich. Did i ever tell you I am descended from the Earl of Sandwich? No? Well, here's a ha'penny for your service."

“By the way, where do you get your hoagies here?” he asked. “Do you get them at Wawas? Is that where you get them? No? Do you get them at Sheetz? Where do you get them?”

As the crowd began to boo, shouting out names of neighborhood joints, Gov. Tom Corbett of Pennsylvania tried to help out: “Delis!” he called out. “The delis!”

But after bungling the name of the Wawa several times — calling the store “Wawas” — Mr. Romney forged ahead.

“Ah, you get them at the delis, is that what you’re saying?” he asked. “Well, I went to a place today called Wawas. You ever been to Wawas? Anybody been there?” As the crowd continued to jeer, he added, “I’m sorry, I know there’s a very big state divide.”

I know the CEO of Wawas

and, governor, you are no...

T]he story you’ll be hearing is that Romney’s amazement at the Wawa touch-screen display (made only more vivid by him saying “Wawa’s” when it’s actually just “Wawa”) shows how out-of-touch he is with common folk….
But that’s not what it actually shows. It shows that Mitt Romney is a terrible, terrible candidate.
If he weren’t such a terrible candidate, he would understand…that if you visit a place that ordinary people are likely to visit—a convenience store, for instance—it’s probably not a good idea to later describe what you saw there as though you had just been to the pyramids of Giza or got a secret look at the iPhone 5.

http://prospect.org/article/we-will-forever-remember-wawagate

a terrible candidate who is ahead in some polls

guess the dog thing ran out of steam huh

it lost its bark you might say

It does help to run against a terrible, terrible president

"and I really enjoyed this...what is it called?...seven elevenths."

lol

what year did GHW Bush encounter the checkout scanner, '88 or 92?

'92

in '88 Poppy said this:

"I'd like to see us open up that Alaska refuge, and that's important, because it was said once, remember, when they built the pipeline, 'Don't build the pipeline, you get rid of the caribou.' The caribou love it. They rub up against it and they have babies. There are more caribou in Alaska than you can shake a stick at, you know."

and he won, so keep chucklin' at Mittens

They rub up against it and they have babies.

very disturbing stuff here. and, yes, he won.

I wasn't chuckling! Banalities said while under stress on the campaign trail >>> serious statements uttered from Oval Office by neolibs.

I was addressing the people fascinated with this new phenomenon of sheltered pols tryin' to be jes' folks.

This is why love Tony Hale's character on Veep

well, at least Mitt has enough on the ball to know that folks in PA call the sort of sandwich that he ordered a "hoagie" (instead of a grinder).

all sandwiches are local

Presumptive GOP nominee Mitt Romney will address the NAACP’s national convention next month, a campaign aide confirmed Tuesday.

News of Romney’s plans to attend the convention, which takes place July 7-12 in Houston, was first reported by April Ryan of American Urban Radio Networks. Romney is scheduled to speak on July 11.

http://www.popscreen.com/assets/thumbs/v/original/8491123yTm_o.jpg

oh man

that is gonna be awesome

my first moment of real pity for mitt & his handlers.

Mitt's handlers should have every detail negotiated in advance, if they know anything at all. I would expect a stony, but respectful, silence as he speaks, bcz most delegates to a national convention will not be young hotheads. Probably no Q&A afterward. So, I presume he'll get off comparatively easy.

As the poster at Balloon Juice remarked, "Ladies and gentlemen, you will not see a bigger concentration of side-eye in the known universe."

I'll get ridiculed for this, but: I give him credit for doing it, just like I gave McCain credit for doing it last time. They both know/knew they're getting virtually no votes out of it--I realize the idea is to get some votes from independents who might be queasy about the Republicans and race, and that the speech is, like everything else on both sides, completely political. But he either goes or skips it, and it's better to go.

"it's better to go," ie HE HAS TO, ie why are you "giving credit"?

Bush didn't go in 2004 and it didn't hurt him a bit.

Didn't help him either, of course.

he didn't like black people, as we later were informed.

Well, that's the thing--he doesn't have to go at all. Pretty sure McCain broke a lengthy stretch where Republicans skipped the NAACP altogether. I have no illusions about his hypocrisy and motivations, but I still say it's better to go than not go.

McCain had to stand before the NAACP and say he was wrong not to vote for MLK Day. I think that's worth something.

Garry Wills wrote this bit for Morbs, me, aero, and kev!

George H. W. Bush rightly believes he was sabotaged by the crypto-Republican Ross Perot, who helped Bill Clinton wi

a load of horse shit though

yeah, similar to libs blaming Nader for Dubya

which is the following sentence

http://www.pollingreport.com/hibbitts1202.htm

pre-election polling actually suggests perot stole more votes from clinton, narrowing the margin and improving bush's chances!

exit-polling suggests perot votes would have been distributed to clinton or bush in roughly equal measures. 24% of perot voters would not have voted for either.