so if i have this right, for group C:
Italy need to win to get even a placeIf Croatia and Spain draw, Italy need to win by 3 goals?
If Croatia win, Italy need to win by 5 goals?
If Spain win, Italy just need a win
Yes?
― PSOD (Ste), Monday, 18 June 2012 08:24 (eleven years ago) link
ugh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2012#Group_stage
― caek, Monday, 18 June 2012 08:37 (eleven years ago) link
if croatia draw 0-0 and italy win 2-0 then they are level on GD and goals scored, which means italy go through because they have a higher uefa ranking. same if croatia draw 1-1 and italy win 3-1, croatia draw 2-2, italy win 4-2, etc.
i think.
― caek, Monday, 18 June 2012 08:41 (eleven years ago) link
No xp, an Italy win puts them through unless Spain and Croatia draw 2-2 or higher
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 08:41 (eleven years ago) link
am i reading those rules right: the game between the two teams is the first tie-breaker, then GD. and isn't it usually the other way around?
― caek, Monday, 18 June 2012 08:43 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah the game between the two is the tie-breaker. It's how Greece went through.
― Matt DC, Monday, 18 June 2012 08:45 (eleven years ago) link
Can someone explain the 2-2 draw thing though? Would Spain and Croatia go through on goals scored? What happens if Italy put seven or eight past Ireland?
― Matt DC, Monday, 18 June 2012 08:48 (eleven years ago) link
No matter how big a win against the Irish, a 2-2 draw (or higher score draw) in the other group game between Spain and Croatia will ensure the Italians head home early - this because head-to-head records come into play when two or more countries finish level on points. Italy's 1-1 draw with both nations would therefore be seen as the weaker result.
― caek, Monday, 18 June 2012 08:54 (eleven years ago) link
special rules for 3-way tie
there is a table here http://www.goal.com/en/news/2898/euro-2012/2012/06/18/3177953/euro-2012-group-c-permutations-italy-must-avoid-the-curse-of-2-2-
― caek, Monday, 18 June 2012 08:58 (eleven years ago) link
It'd be a three-way head-to-head is the way to look at it. Italy currently have two 1-1s, Spain and Croatia have one each. That's why a 2-2 tonight puts them both through.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 09:02 (eleven years ago) link
Would like Italy to go through but would also like Ireland to win the game. Hmmm.
― Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Monday, 18 June 2012 09:08 (eleven years ago) link
You could always cheer loudly for Spain & Croatia to field ineligible players.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 09:19 (eleven years ago) link
can't wait for germany vs greece. batter of the euro, 2012
― Rosie 47 (ken c), Monday, 18 June 2012 09:51 (eleven years ago) link
battle
euro in batter
― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Monday, 18 June 2012 11:54 (eleven years ago) link
platini wieners in blatter batter
― Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Monday, 18 June 2012 12:00 (eleven years ago) link
batter the neville you know
― give me back my 200 dollars (NotEnough), Monday, 18 June 2012 12:02 (eleven years ago) link
croatia and spain are my favourite sides
hopefully they draw 2-2 and italy lose to ireland
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 June 2012 12:10 (eleven years ago) link
FIRST
― Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 June 2012 13:26 (eleven years ago) link
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― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 June 2012 14:03 (eleven years ago) link
Italy to beat Ireland 3-0, Spain to draw 2-2 with Croatia (two goals coming in the last five minutes).
― Totally committed to the Corrs (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 18 June 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link
Anyway.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 June 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link
which game should I watch?
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 18 June 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link
Right now I'm watching Spain-Croatia.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 June 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link
HRAVSTKA
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 June 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link
that was my pick too. Just because Spain can be sublime.
xpost
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 18 June 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link
Spain-Croatia because there's elimination definitely at stake there, unless there isn't in which case switch over for the laughs.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
Del Bosque just described as 'avuncular.' Um.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 June 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link
croatia to win, italy draw for maximum lols
― pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link
italy to lose
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 June 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link
don't think spain 2012 will be able to crank out the 1-0's like spain 2010
― pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 18:51 (eleven years ago) link
italy have been v v underwhelming so far. no balotelli - as good as di natale is in the 6 yard box, he doesn't exactly add any creativity. more of a trad back 4 too, which is rubb considering they are playing a p inneffective attacking team.
― Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, 18 June 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link
DON'T FUCKING KICK IT OUT UNLESS THE REF TELLS YOU TO
― Number None, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link
how hard is that? seriously
― Number None, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link
ha i was just going to say how great closeups of xavis raptor eyes at fks are
he is just an incredible player, tempted to say the best general football intelligence i have ever seen (assuming there is such a thing and noting that messi and iniesta have sharper instincts in the final quarter of the pitch)
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 June 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link
Spain could do with Cesc on so that they have someone other than just Nando prepared to get in the box imo.
― pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link
Great break for Ireland but how the hell can mcgeady make that mistake?
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
is that a trick question?
― Number None, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
Ireland looking more game than usual.
― Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Monday, 18 June 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
pen surely
― pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link
maybe not
Ramos is a fucker.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link
was it pique who went diving in at the halfway line to cause that?
― pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 June 2012 20:09 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
is it me or is it a kinda new thing to laud players on how intelligent their play is? xavi, schweini, iniesta, pirlo, modric etc. are most probably better regarded than robben, ribery, rooney, maybe even the whole real attack despite these players being more 'exciting'.
― Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Monday, 18 June 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link
close from di natale
― pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
nice while it lasted
― Number None, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
italy score
― caek, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
In?
― pandemic, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link
Yes. Given is fucked
― Number None, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link