EURO 2012

Think so - the only way France could conceivably in trouble is if Sweden win convincingly and Ukraine win and top the group. England just need to not lose and they're through.

Jesus was definitely ahead of the last defender when Fabregas played the ball to Iniesta, and was level when Iniesta played the ball to him. Whether he was technically offside, due to being active or inactive or whatever, is one of those things that everyone's going to disagree on. My gut instrinct at the time was that Spain were VERY lucky to be allowed the goal, both for Iniesta's shoulder-control and Jesus being active when fabregas played the ball to Iniesta.

I think they can lose by one and go out on goals scored if England also lose by one, but otherwise I think that's right.

they have a better goal diff than england at the moment tho right? By +1?

this is handy

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3284/euro-2012/2012/06/19/3184870/euro-2012-group-d-permutations-england-france-close-in-on

thx mate

MINI-LEAGUE

i was convinced last night was going to be spain 2 - 2 croatia .. at 15-1 was worth a pop? or was i a fool?

i was deffo a fool when at 43 mins i put £2 on the same score thinking i was getting 240-1, then realised after betting it was for half-time score.

Wait, UEFA dropped the hammer on Bendy to the tune of £80,000! Didn't realize their fines went that high, or is that only when they're dealing with Associations rather than players?

fwiw my call for tonight

england draw with ukraine
france beat sweden.

(zzzz)

they reckon paddy power will foot the bill for n.b. anyway

240-1 for four goals in two minutes isn't very generous! You want to change bookies imo. That Victor seems like a smashing fellow, he'd see you right.

england draw with ukraine
france beat sweden.

that's how i'd call it

figure England would have a marginally better shout against Italy than against Spain if they get thru. wouldn't even be slightly shocked if Ukraine win tonight tho.

Italy were so bad last night

although i guess Spain weren't great either

this is all relative tho

i think England will beat Ukraine though

Goal of the tournament so far - the Balotelli one? Theo?

hoping he drops Carroll and plays Rooney off Wellbeck. Ukraine's backline looks pretty porous but our midfield is still o_O. tbf, having Young on the left and Milner on the right mightn't be as limiting with Rooney who won't rely on having proper wingers the way Carroll does.

definitely not Walcott. It was a deflection/fluke

gott - Ronaldo's second v Netherlands

Just trying to think of shots from outside the box that have actually gone in. xp

Mario's was v. nice, that second Gomez goal against the Netherlands was pretty tasty too.

I think i liked Di Natale against Spain the best. Or Ronaldo the other night

The Polish one v Russia was a screamer

Kuba's for Poland vs Russia was a good thump.
Gomez first vs Holland my fav, tho RVP/VDV both got nice goals this tourney, shame they didn't get more of them mind.

The Polish's guy's left-footer on the run was very sweet.

Debating whether to bother watching the games live tonight. I've been having to split my sleep in 2 sections for the duration of the Euros so far and it's really not working. Feel like tonights games will be routine. Still I'd hate not to witness bonkers events live should bonkers events happen.

I liked wellbeck's flying aerial backheel, that's gotta be top 10. xp

England are winning in two categories though - best header and best improvisation

There's potential for a French and/or English meltdown. Recommended viewing tonight imo.

Given wins best header surely?
xp

haven't we suffered enough?

Ireland are going to sweep the "worst" categories tbfttl

Nah that's Holland's to win.

If this were a 24-team tourney you'd only be ninth-worst atbf

thumbs up to holland imo, did exactly what they're there at tournaments to do, it's just unfortunate they kept it relatively in-house is all

I'd thought the Italians might be this tournament's big team to implode, given the Serie A situation, but they clearly don't give a fuck.

Our work sweepstake has an prize for 'worst team' as well as winner and runner-up. Not looked at the stats yet, but Ireland lost all three and conceeded more than the Dutch, right?

Yeah, -8gd v -3gd. Ignoring stats, I think Holland were more pathetic, though.

Goal of the tournament so far:
1) Polish one on the break v Russia
2) Balotelli overhead kick
3) Welbeck incredible trailing foot thing

Tonight:
France 1 Sweden 1
Ukraine 3 England 3

One less goal to Ukraine and I agree.

England will beat Ukraine tonight - crushing underdogs' dreams is the one thing England do reliably well. I think France may well lose to Sweden though; I don't think they'd be particularly fussed about facing Italy rather than Spain.

My dad's in Kiev for the Italy QF, I feel it ought to be against England tbh.

Pav's goal against the Czechs was pretty sweet.

crushing underdogs' England fans' dreams is the one thing England do reliably well

if england lose is it possible for us to still go through?

Only if France lose by 2 goals more than England do, or lose by one goal more but end the group with less goals scored than England

Dunphy: “There’s another feature of today that is unique, it’s an honour for Liam to be sitting in between two former Millwall footballers – and it’s not often two former Millwall footballers appear on television.”

Sadlier: “Privileged.”

Brady: “Where do Millwall ex players usually appear? In the dock?”

Maloney: “We’d like to distance ourself from those remarks – and so would Liam.”

brady's best ever zing? can't wait for video of this to emerge.