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Darraghmac: I'm not up on my hockey as I should be but unless they have something like that, nope.

What a fucking slog of a game, Germany's probably just laughing a bit.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

germany italy

spain portugal

tasty

reflexing cozen stail (cozen), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link

at least with Young's you felt he had a settled idea of how he was going to hit it even if it was a dipshit idea

Cole obv just looked at the last two Italian penos and thought, that looks like a laugh why not

jacob von logflume (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link

Can't complain about that: outplayed for more than an hour and would have got humped by Germany anyway.

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link

pirlo ran a sav all night

reflexing cozen stail (cozen), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link

Oh thanks Mookie, missed your post. I knew I'd seen hockey penalties at some point but wasn't sure where.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link

penalties, a test of nerve and technique, is also a lottery.

hate that.

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link

Italy could yet beat Germany. There was no way whatsoever England could.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link

to the rooney thread

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:29 (eleven years ago) link

Rooney clearly unfit. It was a waste of time taking him.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link

Cole obv just looked at the last two Italian penos and thought, that looks like a laugh why not

Yes, except having paused to see which way the keeper was going he elected to hit it really softly in that direction.

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link

Pirlo player of the tournament <3 <3 <3

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link

Would've been a fucking travesty if England had won that. Still, Italy will be knackered and Germany will tonk them.

Awesome penalty from Pirlo.

Matt DC, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link

Wish this bollocks theory that England played well in the first half would be abandoned.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link

Croatia the only team to have gone home too soon

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:35 (eleven years ago) link

Jurgen's so good at this

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link

ah well, i was wrong. even i didn't think hodgson and england would fuck up that badly. amazing.

Chris, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:45 (eleven years ago) link

never change

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:46 (eleven years ago) link

someone managed to take a linkin' park song and make it worse

Rosie 47 (ken c), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link

Who was it? I like Linkin, and I liked that.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link

eh going out on penos to italy, i dunno what england coach since robson or maybe venables fucks up any less in the knockout stages of a tournament

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link

Charlie Adam ‏@Charlie26Adam
Get it in the mixer for the big man game over

boxall, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

is there a gif yet of Mario getting wanked off by two guys before extra time yet?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

Happy for Pirlo.

Why oh why has the brave new world of being so shit and losing in 90 mins not materialised? Why wasting everyone's time with spirit and er, spirit to lose on pens?! ffs!

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link

Hierarchy of England exits, modern era:

  • Italia 90
  • Euro 96
  • France 98
  • Portugal 04
  • Germany 06
  • this
  • Euro 2000
  • South Africa 2010
  • were England even at Euro 92?
Huge gap between 6th & 7th obviously

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link

why did pirlo have so much space? why were england so deep? why didn't hodgey change it? inflexible, arrogant, clueless. he knows one way and one way only. no way are these players as technically poor as those 4 matches suggest.

Chris, Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link

i'm not sure what pirlo did all match that was so damaging tbph, i musta missed a few things. italy had attacking momentum but only really damaged england when terry fucked the offside trap for balotelli a few times in the first half.

inflexible, arrogant, clueless. he knows one way and one way only. no way are these players as technically poor as those 4 matches suggest.

join the queue of last several lfc managers so tbf. if we're just grinding axes here, like.

england did not qualify for 92

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:03 (eleven years ago) link

WHAT?

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:03 (eleven years ago) link

Euro 92 = Turnipgate

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

i mean, chris, england's players have always looked technically incompetent, we have actual threads about this. english players are technically incompetent, as a unit wrt passing, touch, movement and decisions.

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

Rooting for the underdogs Ita and Por. Don't think the Italians have that much class at the back unfortunately and Portugal are Portugal - although they've been the best I've seen at a major tournament.

xxp = lol wtf they couldn't string five passes together toward the end of that - not Hodgson's fault.

Pirlo would have made space but yeah not as damaging as the narrative will suggest.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

nothing to do with liverpool. why when rooney broke was the rest of the team in their own half sticking to that precious shape?

Chris, Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

haha sorry i misremember the followon failure to qualify for usa 94 obv

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:05 (eleven years ago) link

92 was brolin wasn't it? xposts oops

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:05 (eleven years ago) link

rooney broken through now?

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link

so why is there this narrative about england having done well in this comp? they played terribly for the most part. is it just cos they played shit with an english coach that nobody hates, so the fans got behind the team more? that seems to be it as far as i can see.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link

Oxlade-Chamberlain for England manager 2013

owenf, Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link

young's and wellbeck's movement was terrible on the break, but the system tonight wasn't so much the problem as the indifferent attacking performance/nerves of young, rooney- hodgson ought to have hauled both off tbf, i'll grant you that

irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:07 (eleven years ago) link

Portugal 04 > France 98

In Portugal England actually looked good for about two and a half matches. In France they scraped out of a shit group, then lost to a team who lost to a team who lost to a team who lost the final.

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:07 (eleven years ago) link

There was no one on the bench who would've done better than Rooney or Welbeck. Carroll wasn't any good.

boxall, Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:08 (eleven years ago) link

why is there this narrative about england having done well in this comp?

Relatively speaking, they have done. I much prefered watching the group games this time around to the utterly tedious shit that England served up in South Africa (or the largely insipid displays in Germany, for that matter).

Nessun Biscotto (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:10 (eleven years ago) link

england's players have always looked technically incompetent, we have actual threads

Certainly the impression I've received throughout my entire football hating and approx one England match a year watching life. Other teams: possession, passing. England: long balls, passes to nowhere.

Jesu swept (ledge), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:13 (eleven years ago) link

xp

NBS otm why is there a narrative that rates all England performances the same instead of comparing their achievements across tournaments?

democracy defends capital (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:14 (eleven years ago) link

yes england have always looked technically inferior, but hodgson doesn't even set teams up to pass, to control, to dominate. england have been outplayed in almost all of hodgson's games. coincidence? and we want this guy to lead the st george's park revolution?

Chris, Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:15 (eleven years ago) link

Eng have done really well, but only if you compare to past perfs at the Euros that are set away from home. To top the group with a manager that has just taken over w/several injuries (Wilshere, Lampard) does = well.

What isn't ever faced (as per the beeb) is that we are as bad as Greece (say), whom the media here have no right to criticise. multiple xps

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:15 (eleven years ago) link

Relatively speaking, they have done. I much prefered watching the group games this time around to the utterly tedious shit that England served up in South Africa (or the largely insipid displays in Germany, for that matter).

true, but that's relative to an absolute low. i guess the swedish game was exciting enough that it got people behind the team. england weren't great that night either though.

scott parker btw, knew he'd be found out at this level, he's just not international class.

xpost they haven't played well though, and they only topped the group due to the incompetence of others and a massive refereeing error. don't delude yourselves.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link

wasn't England just in an easy group this time?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link

England in a relatively easy group, short of players with technical ability, leaden and inflexible tactically. Still their best tournament performances since 2004 probably.

democracy defends capital (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link

and 2004 not a question of being a better side, just a younger, bolder Rooney

democracy defends capital (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:19 (eleven years ago) link

Fair enough, but most people thought (for once) that Eng were not going to get out of that group and Eng did show something to come back against Sweden.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:19 (eleven years ago) link


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