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Touré gets his ass handed to him by conservative drone, sez Michael Walsh. The comments, as usual, are a hoot.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 13:46 (eleven years ago) link

I thought Toure wrote record reviews. So he gave a jokey intro to Harry Potter's cousin and then the guy threw out a bunch of talking points.

President Keyes, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:01 (eleven years ago) link

conservative victory

President Keyes, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:01 (eleven years ago) link

Uh maybe Walsh should have come up with another phrase instead of "Toure gets owned".

I found him in a Bon Ton ad (Nicole), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link

[Approved commenter] Hope E. Changey
06/27/12 09:03

I stand ready to contribute and work towards a "Schriver For..." any office in the land. This kid's got style, poise, and facts. AND a great smile,unlike the smug little twit who is so deluded he doesn't even KNOW he's been "schooled" bigtime.

TO everything...Toure...Toure...Toure....there is a season: And this isn't yours.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link

This child is worse than Team Breezy fans.

I found him in a Bon Ton ad (Nicole), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:13 (eleven years ago) link

Harry Potter's cousin made spurious arguments anyway. Why does it matter that kids are moving back in with their parents -- how would it make them more conservative? What if their parents are liberals?

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:15 (eleven years ago) link

Schriver looks so much like the generic platonic republican image in my head

Mordy, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link

The only thing worth reading in days. As usua though the definitions don't square with how I understand liberalism and conservatism. Do liberals really look for ideas? Do conservatives accept the world as it is?

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link

I have not been reading that regularly but has that writer ever acknowledged who came up with the mandate idea, and then squared it with the current stances? Has he been making strong constitutional arguments re the alleged unconstitutionality of the mandate?

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

If confronted and responds in good faith he might say that Orrin Hatch et al were wrong to support this liberal aberration in the nineties (doesn't he say something about getting caught up lib/con schema? I'm not going to read it again).

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

That's probably right. I think Republicans when confronted re economics from Reagan through the Bushes like to say that anything that went wrong was due to aberrations (plus blaming Freddie Mac) from true purist conservatism.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link

isn't it held up as an example of the bad ideas you come up with while trying to find common ground with the evil dems?

President Keyes, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

That too.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link

But it does so at a significant political cost. First, those who dislike the mandate — which includes a majority of U.S. voters — will now have no recourse but to vote for Mitt Romney to repeal it.

Yes, keep telling yourself that.

I found him in a Bon Ton ad (Nicole), Thursday, 28 June 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link

guys, this is how they win elections! Say BLACK is WHITE over and over until their message gets repeated by media.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 June 2012 15:17 (eleven years ago) link

Russ Davis 06/28/12 11:07
I wish you were right and hope so, but whoda thunk it that Roberts would vote to uphold & Kennedy strike it! If that can happen, this is a Bizarro world where anything can happen, as Dostoyevsky said about any country that abandons the true God, which of course papists like Roberts have done, even though in this case the others weren't presently affected.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 June 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link

as Dostoyevsky said about any country that abandons the true God, which of course papists like Roberts have done

O_o

I wonder if Russ is going to call Klo a papist to her face on the NRO cruise...

I found him in a Bon Ton ad (Nicole), Thursday, 28 June 2012 15:26 (eleven years ago) link

papists!!!

pvmic bellvm (goole), Thursday, 28 June 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link

Kathryn Jean Lopez ‏@kathrynlopez
.@AndrewBreitbart would be on @PiersTonight somewhat inexplicably tonight, as would happen on long news days ‪#missthatfriend‬

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 29 June 2012 04:34 (eleven years ago) link

#missthatintolerablecokeheadfuck

Just saying. (stevie), Friday, 29 June 2012 06:25 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/304385/liberal-coup-artur-davis

kind of a shitbag, this guy

goole, Friday, 29 June 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link

It is not news that most liberals regard the courts as a bulwark against public opinion, and that they celebrate the judiciary’s capacity to detach itself from the mainstream. What is more striking is the evolving liberal ideal that the overall political process need not and should not mimic popular sentiment either. Why bother, when reputation-sensitive elites can be persuaded without relying on a ballot — simply by invoking their desire to align with “history” and their skittishness about following the “uninformed”?

invoking their desire to align with “history” and their skittishness about following the “uninformed”
invoking their desire to align with “history” and their skittishness about following the “uninformed”
invoking their desire to align with “history” and their skittishness about following the “uninformed”

da croupier, Friday, 29 June 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/4kQNT.png

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 2 July 2012 04:24 (eleven years ago) link

Gay marriage furthers the disconnection of marriage from procreation; it helps in an ongoing way to sever the link between sex and diapers.

caek, Monday, 2 July 2012 12:32 (eleven years ago) link

Boozhwa 07/01/12 15:09
Interesting that be phrased it that way. Progressivism methodically combines elements of mob rule and dictatorship -- the two things the Founders most wanted to avoid.
Of course, Obama doesn't mind majoritarian rule when it empowers him and his cronies. Even if he has to usurp the people's liberties.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 July 2012 12:42 (eleven years ago) link

sever the link between sex and diapers.

more like diapers sever the sex link between....oh nevermind

(REAL NAME) (m coleman), Monday, 2 July 2012 13:18 (eleven years ago) link

what an asshole liar

https://twitter.com/andrewcmccarthy/status/219117899867095040

goole, Monday, 2 July 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link

more on A. McCarthy's lie

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/07/obama-and-romney-are-both-raising-money-americans-overseas

Obama will spend the Fourth, his daughter Malia's birthday, throwing a party on the White House lawn for military families.

And yet, more than 48 hours later, it's still up without any correction. At least, no correction that I can see. Surely National Review can at least bring itself to post simple corrections to simple factual errors?

In any case, if you're curious about where this comes from, check out Tim's piece. In a nutshell, both the Obama campaign and the Romney campaign hold fundraisers overseas because lots of Americans live overseas. The Obama campaign is hosting events in Paris and Geneva, while the Romney campaign is hosting events in Hong Kong and London. All kosher, all above board. Nothing to get in a tizzy about.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link

it is my fervent wish that michael walsh reacts to gawker today

goole, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 21:31 (eleven years ago) link

It is my fervent wish that Michael Walsh get run over by an 18-wheeler.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link

is that a Christian sentiment

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link

motm

mookieproof, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/304658/post-colonial-killing-fields-conrad-black

It is an ever-growing matter of suspense how long it will take before there is general recognition of the fact that, although the spread of democracy is — next to its irreplaceable contribution to victory in World War II and the Cold War — America’s greatest bequest to the world, most of the world worked better in colonial times. No one could seriously dispute that almost all of sub-Saharan Africa, all of North Africa except Morocco, all of the Middle East except Israel and Jordan and most of the oil-rich states, and the entire former British Indian Empire were better governed by Europeans. The Philippines and Cuba and, during the piping days of the U.S. Marines’ occupations (even if they were deployed at times by the United Fruit Company), Nicaragua, Haiti, and the Dominican Republic were all better off under the Americans.

max, Thursday, 5 July 2012 17:52 (eleven years ago) link

haha i c/p'd that without reading the whole essay which is quite a doozy

The colonists had the better of the argument with the British, but individual Americans did not have substantively more liberties at the end of the Revolution than they had had at the beginning, nor more than the British in the home islands had (then or now or at any time in between), apart from having a resident sovereign government. The whole American notion of liberty came from the British, along with the common law and the English language. If the Americans had maintained their British status, they would control Britain and Canada and Australia and New Zealand now (another 120 million people and over $5 trillion of GDP), have all their energy needs met, and enjoy better government than they have actually endured for the past 20 years. It would have been much easier to abolish slavery and, if there had been a Civil War, it would not have lasted long, nor cost a fraction of the 750,000 American lives that it did. There would have been no World Wars or Cold War, or at least no conflict remotely as perilous as those were. The United States would also have less than its current 25 percent of the world’s incarcerated people, and wouldn’t have a legal cartel that devours 10 percent of its GDP. These are matters that, though they verge on secular heresy, Americans may want to consider, in between singing splendid anthems and rereading Jefferson’s defamation of poor old George III and his blood libel on the American Indian in the Declaration of Independence, this national holiday.

max, Thursday, 5 July 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

"the piping days" gtfo

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 July 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

that's I was doing yesterday afternoon alright: reading Jefferson’s defamation of poor old George III

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 July 2012 17:56 (eleven years ago) link

wait, so an NRO author is writing that we'd be better off if we had ended up being Super Canada????? Am I reading these excerpts correctly??????

I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Thursday, 5 July 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link

Dave USA 07/04/12 08:30

Conrad is a monarchist and a buffoon. He was sentenced to prison, but should have been sentenced to an insane asylum. What tripe this article.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 July 2012 18:01 (eleven years ago) link

conservative suspicion of democracy is my favorite thing

the civil war retconning in the comments is just grim

goole, Thursday, 5 July 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link

ugh "The Philippines...during the piping days of the U.S. Marines’ occupation" was vietnam beta, almost exactly! right down to its off-the-books nature, absolute butchery of the populace, severely low troop morale, anti-imperialist politics at home. it's really fascinating; i should try to find a good book on this period (what i know came from something on pbs heh)

goole, Thursday, 5 July 2012 18:10 (eleven years ago) link

Robert L. Beisner's Twelve against Empire: The Anti-Imperialists, 1898—1900 touches on domestic efforts to inform the populace about those atrocities.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 July 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link

It must be said that the motives for colonialism were discreditably greedy and largely based on racial and sectarian arrogances.

ha ha haa.

goole, Thursday, 5 July 2012 18:17 (eleven years ago) link

cool thx for the tip

goole, Thursday, 5 July 2012 18:17 (eleven years ago) link

Why would the US being part of Britain mean no World Wars and no Cold War?

Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Thursday, 5 July 2012 18:18 (eleven years ago) link

because magic

I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Thursday, 5 July 2012 18:18 (eleven years ago) link

no World Wars and no Cold War?

Apparently the author presumes that the rapid development and population growth of the North American continent would have proceeded under British rule just as they did under USA independence, so that come the 20th century the British Empire would have been so utterly dominant that no other power would have chosen to go to war with it.

Given overall British colonial policy, especially any continuation of the policies in place prior to 1776, that's one very silly assumption there.

Aimless, Thursday, 5 July 2012 18:24 (eleven years ago) link

ugh "The Philippines...during the piping days of the U.S. Marines’ occupation" was vietnam beta, almost exactly! right down to its off-the-books nature, absolute butchery of the populace, severely low troop morale, anti-imperialist politics at home. it's really fascinating; i should try to find a good book on this period (what i know came from something on pbs heh)

― goole, Thursday, 5 July 2012 18:10 (25 minutes ago) Permalink

Though it is a historical novel rather than non-fiction, and also it covers many other subjects from the spanish american war to jim crow era Wilmington NC, I read and enjoyed John Sayles' A Moment in the Sun. also his most recent film Amigo.

would be interested in that pbs documentary if you know the name of it.

dsb, Thursday, 5 July 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link

Gore Vidal's Empire covers the war from the pov of TR and the jingoes.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 July 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link


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