EURO 2012

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I love the received wisdom that you can "do" or mark* the best footballers in the world out of games. Like no-one's tried that while they were becoming the best in the world.

*I do know this can be done, I just think it's passed off as too simple by pundits

you can't stream a pancake (onimo), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link

Ramos doesn't even play on the same side of defence as Arbeloa, Pique does.

boxall, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:24 (eleven years ago) link

Arbeloa's a fine defender but I bet Del Bosque wishes he had a Jordi Alba attacking style right-back, to get in behind Ronaldo who likely will not track back much.

boxall, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link

Most teams managed it with Messi at the last World Cup, but that was by putting two defenders on him most of the time and leaving space open elsewhere.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link

i wish he would play ramos at rb and martinez or someone as cb
xp

mizzell, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link

Portugal haven't been all that good in the tourney so far. Thought they looked at their best going frwd vs Denmark and only just squeaked that one. Czech Rep were similar to France vs Spain in that they had zero ambition to cause the other side defensive problems. They did quite well vs Holland but that dutch MF was disastrous.

pandemic, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:34 (eleven years ago) link

I think Portugal are pretty good and could win tonight. Good defence and they gave Germany a tough time when they abandoned their negativity.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

Okay what was with the speeches.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

R-E-S-P-E-C-T

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

I would be all down with Aretha in midfield.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link

Ronaldo as much of a diva etc etc

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

can't be any worse than Diana Ross

Number None, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

Portugal caused a bit of panic vs Germany with their corners.

pandemic, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

Otis Redding did have a try-out for Sporting Lisbon.

I am excited for this match but Real haven't done well in most recent clasicos and Barca look a lot better on paper tonight.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

iniesta you magnificent bastard.

pandemic, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

oof arbeloa, should have kept that down.

pandemic, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

Excellent from Ronaldo, I'm right up for a bit of that tonight

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

Bullshit FK

pandemic, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

otm

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

ref having a nightmare both ways imo

pandemic, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link

This is much better than I expected it to be.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link

rather see cesc as a false 9 than negredo doing nothing.

pandemic, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

Portugal look good

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

Terrible crossing, but everything else A+

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

pique with 3 miscues in a row.

pandemic, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

Best passage of the tournament, this. Could do with some proper crowd noise overdubs.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link

Nani is having an incredible game but he apparently slept with the ref's wife or something because he's had two opportunities scuppered now.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link

Pique ... hasn't looked right for nine months now.

boxall, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link

this has been the best performance v. spain or barca i've seen in years. xavi and iniesta have been nullified with such ease. sure inter and chelsea made it past them and real won the last clasico and portugal may still lose but this has been so well planned and executed so far.

wtf did nani do to this ref to be treated like this?

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

He's been fine in the tourney up to tonight imo
xp

pandemic, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

nani never fouled there FFS

pandemic, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

gonna be heartbreaking when portugal lose this

jabba hands, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

Pique ... hasn't looked right for nine months now.

― boxall, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:20 (27 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Word is he was getting back to form at the end of the season, no? And he's been fine up until tonight. Maybe Shakira is in attendance. Either way off-form Pique is still better than most centre-halves.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

not for me! I'm firmly with Spain
xp

pandemic, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

Ramos is getting dicked on tonight. He could easily get sent off.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link

I thought he was awful in the CL semifinals, though I didn't particularly notice him against Italy or France in this tournament.

boxall, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

perriera is an "angry man" apparently. In general not just on occasion.

pandemic, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

Klinnsman's English is so American, now.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link

Is Almeida a ringer for ilx's Lord Soto or am I imagining it?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link

Ref shite. Game good.

Number None, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link

Why are the beeb studio guys constantly all talking at once tonight? so weird.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

ignorance/ego

you can't stream a pancake (onimo), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

Ronaldo whets their fancy?

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

Negredo was a terrible choice.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

Fabulous touches in that break. This deserves a better audience.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

No reds please ref

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

This is getting kinda weird.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

this ref is ruining what is a fine match.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

He reads and stuff and has a nice beard and plays a v. ilx friendly way and all but the one thing I really do love about Xabi Alonso is his one attempt per game to lob a keeper from the half way line.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

Portugal getting squeezed in the middle now

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link


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