Birth Control: Advice and Anecdotes

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I'd like to note how I like the name 'Paragard' It's almost like a guard against parenting.

Ms Misery, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 14:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I've repped for the Nuva-Ring on like five other threads already, but I'll do it again: love not having to remember to take anything, love that it's a low level of steady-release so there's no ski-slope of nausea or hormonal drop throughout the day, love that it's not affected by stomach viruses or antibiotics or vomiting. My only issue was making sure it was always in place, because I couldn't feel it at all to tell. I recommend always taking it out for sexy times because then at least you know where it is and can reinsert it promptly instead of losing it in the sheets and only realizing it the next day.

Laurel, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 14:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I read on that too but was concerned b/c several people were experiencing one of the side effects I'm trying to avoid now. Although I love the period-controlling made possible by hormonal options, I'm beginning to think I just take too much other crap to add in birth control hormones.

Ms Misery, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:02 (seventeen years ago) link

i do not like nuva-ring. i just had a bad reaction to it. i am fond of the patch, though it supposedly can cause blood clots and doctors never want to prescribe it unless you ask them specifically and swear up and down that you don't smoke.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:06 (seventeen years ago) link

hormonal birth control seems to make me have a non-stop period. like, people would tell me, oh that's normal and it goes away after a couple of months. WRONG. :(

i'm jealous of people who can use the pill etc to SKIP periods?? i don't know what the deal is that i had this reaction at all but i'm kind of glad i'm not bothering anymore. plus i smoke so it's probably better anyway.

xpost the patch made my skin break out all around wherever it was, apparently my skin is too sensitive to it.

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link

i thought that the nuvaring would be my savior, but ended up hating for quite a few reasons. i'm on yasmin now, which i like quite a bit. no mood swings, no hormonal skin breakouts, shorter period, no cramps, and greatly reduced pms. also no weight gain! my only other experience with pills was ortho-tricyclen, which made me fat and crazy.

lauren, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:12 (seventeen years ago) link

maybe it was the level/type you were on Ally.

When starting new pills, I've always bled through the first pack or so but then it did start. I love skipping my period and would be sad to stop doing so but if it meant getting rid of some of these side effects, I'll do it.

Ms Misery, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Linds, they ALL contribute to blood clots that are made even more likely by smoking, as I understand it...is the patch shown to do even MORE SO than other delivery options? I've only gotten away with being given prescriptions for BC because I was still under 30, and the ads all say "especially for women over 30" or "35", but that won't work much longer.

Laurel, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:13 (seventeen years ago) link

it wasn't the level or type i was on because i've tried a very wide selection of stuff (almost everything mentioned so far besides yasmin?). nothing that is too recent though, i stopped using hormonal birth control about two or three years ago after receiving EXPIRED stuff from the pharmacy and having that go well south. it was like wow nonstop period AND they're giving me bum packs--fuck this, the sponge just came back on the market.

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:15 (seventeen years ago) link

One of my friends used to work with a girl who died a day after it was discovered that she had multiple blod clots throughout her body. She was on the patch at the time but I'm not sure whether or not she smoked. Scared the crap out of me when I found that out.

ENBB, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:16 (seventeen years ago) link

basically if you google for any kind of hormonal birth control, you'll scare the crap out of yourself. i read one post alleging that yasmin caused brain lesions. but what are you going to do?

lauren, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Abstain like the virgins we were meant to be until our wedding nights, obviously.

Laurel, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:19 (seventeen years ago) link

blood clots are one of the more common (opposed to things like brain lesions) side effects though. I'd be scared too if it happened to someone I knew. I've never worried about it though since I don't smoke but since I'll be hitting 35 soon it's probably a good time to think about another method.

Ms Misery, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:20 (seventeen years ago) link

laurel, i think the patch is supposed to be riskier b/c there is a higher level of hormones, but i'm not sure. it is the only thing that works for me though, pills made me nauseous all the time and the ring just...did not work out.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I want to try an IUD that's not hormonally-enhanced -- you know, the copper kind that are just about immune system response and mucous barriers. That sounds delightful, doesn't it?

Laurel, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I think that's what ENBB said she uses. I'm going to ask my doctor about it.

Ms Misery, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:25 (seventeen years ago) link

dudes, just have babies.

sunny successor, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:26 (seventeen years ago) link

We've been using the 'withdrawal method' since October. We'd like a baby, maybe not right away (got a holiday booked and I like a goodm drink when I'm abroad)

This method suits us both perfectly, I'd been on the pill for 11 or 12 years before I came off it. Now I feel 'real', it's almost as though the pill was suppressing who I was as I'd been on it since late puberty.

I've only had one scare so far, I've become pretty good at noting my day to day changes throughout my cycle.

At the beginning I felt aches in one of my ovaries and was convinced it was 'implantation', now I know it's only ovulation and I know when to expect it.

It's fucking brilliant being a woman, I love it!

*rumpie*, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link

dudes, just have babies.

One of these days! but then I'm sure I'd want BC afterwards so I wouldn't just keep spurting 'em out.

Ms Misery, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I hear stitches are a good method of birth control for some time afterwards...

*rumpie*, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link

!!!!

Ms Misery, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link

my doc gave me a sample box of "YAZ" at my 6-week post baby check up but I dont want to take them. the lameass tv ad played a considerable part in that decision.

sunny successor, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I want to try an IUD that's not hormonally-enhanced -- you know, the copper kind that are just about immune system response and mucous barriers. That sounds delightful, doesn't it?

-- Laurel, Tuesday, May 1, 2007 11:24 AM (32 minutes ago)
I think that's what ENBB said she uses. I'm going to ask my doctor about it.


You are correct - MM. I will say that the first couple months are no picnic because it increases cramps and bleeding but these were never huge problems for me to begin with so it's been great since my body got used to it. They're not for everyone though - I have a friend who got hers removed within a couple of months because it was too much for her.

ENBB, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 16:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I almost want to take the one that uses "There She Goes" in their ad, and I'm really on the fence about the one that shows a woman going on "bad" dates and being dropped off at home and going in alone every time...UNTIL THE LAST ONE, MR RIGHT. It's cheesy and sort of pretends that it's her "first time"...?, but on the other hand it DOES allow her to choose a sexual partner without imposing the marriage assumption. Really I wish there was NO narrative at all but LOL ADVERTIZING etc.

Laurel, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 16:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I should have elaborated: It's cheesy and etc but it DOES portray a woman planning ahead w/o guilt or secrecy and making independent sexual choices without imposing etc etc.

Laurel, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link

For awhile I was on the short period one that featured the girl visiting pill sites on her laptop and then meeting her indie rock boyfriend downstairs. gag.

Ms Misery, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I was "de-nutted" a couple of years ago, and quickly realized that I should have done it YEARS ago.

peepee, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link

x-post
that girl is super hot in a donna from that 70s show kinda way

sunny successor, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 16:28 (seventeen years ago) link

laurel that "there she goes" ad kind of freaks me out because I assume everytime they sing "there she goes again" means she having sex again, which is fine, but the song gets stuck in my head all day long.

sunny successor, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link

my gf swears by the ring

deej, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

The idea of birth control adverts is freaky, I mean tampon adverts are bad enough.Then again the two times I've been to America I was slightly freaked out by all the medical advertising in general ("What are you doing Sally Fields?! I DON'T WANT TO KNOW.")

I've been told I'm sick to often to use the pill and I'm worried about the smoking thing and the family history of breast cancer thing, so that cuts out a lot of the hormonal ones, plus I've had too many friends say what Rumpie said: ie that hormonal contraception made them feel somehow 'other'. Condoms it is. My boyfriend's cool with it, just wish they weren't so bloody expensive (yet cheaper than babies, so I perservere.)

Anna, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Condoms cost more than the pill?

Ms Misery, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link

haha depends how much sex u have

deej, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know actually Sam, I've never taken the pill for the mentioned vomiting reason. I assume not as I think you can get the pill on the NHS, or at least subsidised, but you'd have to ask a Britisher who uses it. Condoms are around £8.00 for ten.

Anna, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I was on the pill when I lived in England and it was free. I was amazed.

ENBB, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah that sounds pretty high although I haven't bought condoms in awhile so am not sure how much they are here. My pills are $25 a mth with insurance. I'm certain we don't have sex often enough to match the amount per use you seem to be getting.

Ms Misery, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, the "there she goes again" ad weirds me out a bit because of the LOLZ HEROIN SONG aspect.

I recently advised a girlfriend to try the ring because of this thread!

tokyo rosemary, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:32 (seventeen years ago) link

that song is stuck in my head now. thanks.

Ms Misery, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

no problem

tokyo rosemary, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I wasn't speaking directly to you, R/Z, I think it was Sunny's fault! :)

Ms Misery, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

If I were to switch from pills to ring (as I'm currently contemplating), is it possible that I'll go through the horrible "going off the pill" symptoms? I don't want to cry all the time, or feel terribly bloated.

molly mummenschanz, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link

my gf swears by the ring

-- deej, Tuesday, May 1, 2007 11:39 AM (1 hour ago)


Yep, mine too.

jaymc, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

molly, you shouldn't go through any symptoms unless the hormone doses in your pills are drastically different from the ring? it should be totally ok, like if you were just switching between two brands of pills.

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link

They seem like a good idea, Shakey, but nonoxynol-9 is a detergent, basically, and can be very drying/irritating to some people.

Laurel, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 18:00 (seventeen years ago) link

That's great that has worked for you BUT - VCF is NOT effective enough to be used as the sole means of birth control if you really don't want to conceive. It can be great when used in conjunction with other methods but it has a high failure rate if used alone. I have a friend who got pregnant doing exactly that.

ENBB, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 18:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Furthermore, per wikiped, the failure rate over a 6-month period of different concentrations of spermicides, used alone, was between 10 and 20%!! Whoah.

Hah XP

Laurel, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

BTW - I do volunteer contraceptive counseling so that's why I know a lot about this kind of thing!

ENBB, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I guess I am just lucky then, cuz we went for 6 years with that as our sole BC and never had a problem. oh well.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I remember reading somewhere that women now have way more periods than women used to because in ye olden times women spent the majority of their reproductive years either pregnant or breastfeeding (which for a large majority of women stops them from getting their periods) so that you can sort of view the way women get their periods now as "unnatural".

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 10 September 2015 14:55 (eight years ago) link

I've never minded mine tbh. I actually kind of like it because it reminds me of what I'm (presumably) capable of and that's pretty fucking amazing to think about. Also, I think I have it pretty easy in terms of pain and duration etc.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 10 September 2015 14:56 (eight years ago) link

I like it bc it reminds me that I'm not pregnant.

Here's a q: Can long term use of bc pills/hormonal bc cause the growth of or exacerbate ovarian cysts?

La Lechera, Thursday, 10 September 2015 16:25 (eight years ago) link

no -- given that increased gonadotropin stimulation is thought to contribute to the development of ovarian cysts, and given that oral contraceptives work to block the secretion of gonadotropins from the pituitary, if anything the use of OCs should be beneficial in people with cysts. in fact OCs are first-line therapy for people with PCOS

usic ally (k3vin k.), Thursday, 10 September 2015 16:59 (eight years ago) link

that article kate posted was pretty good for the most part btw

usic ally (k3vin k.), Thursday, 10 September 2015 16:59 (eight years ago) link

thank you for the thorough and informative answer!

La Lechera, Thursday, 10 September 2015 18:11 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

i read about half of this before i had to nope out due to omfg it reminds me of something from a cronenberg movie
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/style/2017/07/26/essure/?utm_term=.63970eddcc94

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 17:20 (six years ago) link

I got to 'There, the inserts, which do not contain or release hormones, help generate scar tissue that blocks the tubes.' and thought 'hmm sounds reliable' :/

kinder, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 20:32 (six years ago) link

Other factors might also have influenced doctors’ enthusiasm for Essure. For one thing, it takes less time to implant the device than to perform tubal ligation surgery in a hospital. Then there are the reimbursement rates. In 2011 documents created by Conceptus for its sales team, the company estimated that a doctor who inserted 60 Essure devices a year would net $66,747.78, or slightly more than $1,100 per device. By contrast, a physician is reimbursed about $510 by private insurance for surgical sterilization in a hospital, according to Amino, a company that uses U.S. insurance claims data to help consumers estimate health-care costs.

Barbara Levy, vice president of health policy at the American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists and a former consultant to Conceptus, says the higher reimbursement rate is meant to cover office overhead and the equipment necessary to insert Essure, not to serve as an incentive for doctors to recommend Essure over tubal ligation. But Robinson argues that the rate does present an incentive, “and it’s supposed to.” He believes that the idea behind the Essure reimbursement rate is to steer doctors away from the more costly hospital-based procedure.

The problem with a procedure that reimburses well, Robinson contends, “is that everybody jumps onboard: ‘Oh, I’m going to do Essures and I’m going to pay my kids’ college tuition.’ ” But Essure isn’t appropriate for every woman, he says, and should be inserted only by doctors who understand and can manage the risks.

Like many of the women I spoke to, Angie Firmalino, 45, says that her doctor recommended Essure. Shortly after her 2009 procedure, which she says was excruciating, the Tannersville, N.Y., woman began having constant bleeding and pain. She developed joint problems that she attributes to an autoimmune response and had to have surgery to remove the coils. The operation left fragments behind and resulted in a hysterectomy. She’s still dealing with chronic pain, muscle weakness and blood circulation problems, which she also thinks are autoimmune related.

In 2011, Firmalino decided to start a group on Facebook to share her experiences with female friends. Then, strangers started requesting to join and “telling their horror stories, some worse than mine,” she says. Soon the Essure Problems group had hundreds, then thousands of women. They wrote graphic descriptions of their pain and blood loss, fatigue and weight gain; they posted pictures of their thinning hair and bloated bellies that could be mistaken for marking the weeks of pregnancy. And they shared the stranger symptoms: joint pain, sudden muscle weakness, skin rashes. “That’s when the talk started about what is this device made out of?” Firmalino says. “Then we discovered there’s nickel in the device. None of us knew.”

did not know there was nickel in it
did not ask women if they were allergic to nickel
bodily horror follows

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 21:40 (six years ago) link

even shitty Etsy sellers tell you when their jewellery contains nickel ffs

kinder, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 22:18 (six years ago) link

seriously
why does it take investigative reporting to find out that these fallopian-tube hosted coils of pain aren't working the way they are supposed to?! "i could pay my kid's tuition with this" not a good answer.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 27 July 2017 12:28 (six years ago) link

god... horrific

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 27 July 2017 19:00 (six years ago) link

corrosive coils of horror

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 27 July 2017 19:59 (six years ago) link

tooth decay? what the ever-loving hell

when I was partway into the article I was thinking it sounded similar to some of the male contraception options that are being tested that involve plugging up the vas deferens, but those are more of a rubber type of substance and not NICKEL wtf

mh, Thursday, 27 July 2017 20:23 (six years ago) link

five years pass...

Cybersex for the win I guess

| (Latham Green), Sunday, 23 October 2022 17:04 (one year ago) link


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