Spider-Man 4 (reboot thread) -- aka The Amazing Spider-Man

I've learned not to judge movies simply by their trailers, but everything I've seen from this reboot looks absolutely like style over substance (and, frankly, stupid).

― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, July 3, 2012 12:49 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

false binary, Raimi Spidey was pretty stylish. i don't even know what a "substantial" Spider-Man movie would look like but i'm pretty sure i don't wanna see it.

Any superhero film is going to be stylish, yes, but action clips from this new one closer resemble a video game than anything in a real world setting.

There was a humility/humanity about the first Raimi Spider-man film (and maybe the others) that doesn't appear present anywhere in this one.

this looks to me to be the exact same movie as the first Raimi Spiderman with a prettier Peter Parker

He looks like a special needs David Tennant.

since you already said "I've learned not to judge movies simply by their trailers" i'm not gonna give you the same lecture i gave s1ocki when he whined that the Batman trailer had montages of big setpieces instead of character moments ;)

also it's not like i'm going to bat for this bullshit movie, DJP otm

I'm not as high on the Nolan Batman films as everyone else is. I thought Ledger's "Joker" was ALL-TIME as a complex villain, but the first film and everything else about the second film that wasn't Heath Ledger-related never pulled me in.

if anything, the trailers make me think they got a better handle on the Spidey quips this time around

yeah true. i mean they got emma stone in it so maybe the truth is this is a more overtly comedic spider-man movie.

man I want to talk about that but I am afraid of using my comic book knowledge to accidentally spoil this movie

what I will say is that I wouldn't be at all surprised if this movie wasn't overtly comic

No way does gwen bite it in the first movie. they're gonna build up to that imo, if it happens at all

The next movie will be about her secret affair with the Green Goblin.

the thing that always cracks me up when i see the trailer for this is the shot of peter parker doing sick skateboard tricks. hes brooding, hes hunky, he skates in a hoodie/blazer combo!

lol at djp flexing his special comic book insider knowledge that wow gwen stacy dies in the comix

look, it was just revealed today that like half of ILX had never seen "I am curious (black)!" before, I'm not assuming anything anymore

haha true

Not having read the comics, I had to brush up quickly on who Gwen was in relation to Peter Parker and Mary Jane. Apparently her death was a big deal? I guess so.

But yeah, it would be dumb to kill her in the first film.

i can believe andrew garfield and emma stone pull off affects that tobey maguire and kirsten dunst didn't, but as a die-hard Spidey 3 defender I'm so sick of "well at least this doesn't have a dance sequence" bullshit the new movie can eat a dick regardless.

Peter Parker's a square dork with superhuman agility of course when he goes evil he turns into a dancing fool, GAHHHHHH DAMN YOUR SMALL MINDS

I didn't think Spider-man 3 was particularly bad, but I thought there was just too much going on and it got confusing/laborious.

The Venom storyline was forced on Raimi by Sony, so it seems unfair that he gets the blame for that.

confusing, maybe. but laborious? i'll play piano obnoxiously over that claim.

i didnt have a problem with the dancing or any of the goofy stuff, its just a crummy movie because it doesnt really work dramatically

i think the difference in quality between the 3 raimi flicks is vastly overstated, obviously they're pretty different movies in some ways but as far as actual craft or enjoyment they're even steven imo

but laborious? i'll play piano obnoxiously over that claim.

I probably used that term incorrectly. What I meant to say is that it was a lot more work than the other films for me to keep up with what was happening.

I can't think of a scene as tonally different from the rest of the movie in the first two as the Parker shuffle was in the third

there were some pretty broad cartoony moments throughout the series

sure, but right now without the movies in front of me to reference I can't remember a scene that felt like it was shoehorned in from a completely different movie operating under a completely different reality

It was like they stitched in a scene from The Mask.

i say bah to your tonal consistency bah

don't worry though, you'll never see something that playful in a superhero movie again

ha ok that's not true if whedon hangs around but oh how you jackals will turn on him

it would be funny if he decided to follow-up the Buffy musical episode in the middle of The Avengers 2

You know that would be my dream movie.

Black Widow, undercover cabaret singer

shit, I hope JW and Scarjo don't read this thread

http://filmnerds.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/superman3.jpg

hey has anyone else seen this yet i wanna talk trash about it

spoiler at one point uncle ben is wearing a polo neck it's really distracting

that 'small knives' joke is so bad and overdelivered ugh

Didn't someone say on some comics thread that Gwen Stacy got pregnant with twins due to some time travel rape or something?

not time travel and it was consensual but J. Michael Straczynski wrote a storyline that "revealed" that she had an affair with Norman Osborn and secretly gave birth to twins

ha ok

I think there was some sci-fi plot device used to age Gwen's kids so that they were adults when Peter finally met them? (I haven't read the actual story.) IIRC they were originally gonna reveal Peter was the father of the twins, which would've made much more sense... But then some editors decided Peter meeting his adult kids would "age" the character too much, even though they were adults only because of magic or something.

i say bah to your tonal consistency bah

― da croupier, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 19:08 (2 days ago) Permalink

don't worry though, you'll never see something that playful in a superhero movie again

― da croupier, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 19:09 (2 days ago) Permalink

ha ok that's not true if whedon hangs around but oh how you jackals will turn on him

― da croupier, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 19:10 (2 days ago) Permalink

otm

If I wasn't so broke I might go see this today, just to get outta the sun + crush hard on emma stone for a while

... probably just take another nap tho. save money for food? idk

HEY THERE SPOILERS LIVE BELOW THIS LINE

Having seen the movie, I am looking forward to a sequel. A lot of this was fun but I was mentally doing the "get ON with it" hand gesture.

Emma Stone v lovely and feisty and a good foil for Andrew Garfield, but the 'dizzy her into a kiss' is as crappy as it was in Temple of Doom.

I thought Garfield was more obnoxious that I'd have liked of Spidey in the flexing his powers scenes (mostly with the basketball), but I may just be a sensitive guy Tobey Maguire stan there.

I liked that Spidey was essentially a boutique crimefighter for a lot of the film.

My gf was particularly struck by how off a lot of the lolgeek references were, including using bluddy Bing for a search engine.

Also this movie could have done with some Bruce Campbell, but on the other hand the Stan Lee scene was better than ALL previous Stan Lee scenes put together. And one of the highlights of the generally excellent fight scenes.

My annoyance at Peter being too dumb to really get the sledgehammer "Oh by the way there is a new predator in New York, which is me, and I understand that it can be quite aggressive, because I'll fuck you up" was completely erased by the LIZARD MOUSE!

Which is kind of my takeaway, that they didn't quite line up the gritty and the quippy (the awesome jokes when he's learning his powers slightly undercut by the fact that hey hasn't he just destroyed his aunt 'n uncle's bathroom?).

Also, right - from Ben's point of view, doesn't he tackle the thief for the crimes of running along the street and dropping a gun? I thought that was protected speech in the US?

HEY THERE SPOILERS ALSO LIVE BELOW THIS LINE

Oh yeah didn't love - the only person of colour is the only outright villain.

Also! (I will shut up after this) I was greatly amused by the fact that not only does the reboot have the Big, Emotional, New Yorkers Rally Around Spiderman sequence to match the one pasted into the original after the WTC attacks, but the sequence is based on the massive misapprehension that anyone gives a shit what Spiderman is swinging from.