EURO 2012

Casillas tells little ref behind the goal to stop the game "out of respect". Whistle goes a few seconds later. Everyone calls Iker a true sporting gentleman etc.

shortening a contest because you're battering a team wouldn't be very respectful imo

yeah they could've just respectfully stopped scoring

It's a suspiciously American way of thinking to my mind. Plus what's dude behind the goal supposed to do anyway?

FINISH HIM

xpost how is that american?

isn't it frowned upon to run up scores in some American sports

slam dunks are considered bad form in some Ivy League b-ball teams

maybe at like recreational or high school level xp

aren't quarterbacks expected to kneel in the last minutes of games instead of scoring another touchdown etc. iirc belichick and the patriots got some flak at some point because they kept scoring against helpless teams and people thought that wasn't nice or something ?

In Italian football teams generally don't go beyond 4 goals.they'll just be a tacit agreement to pass the ball around and run down the clock.

aren't quarterbacks expected to kneel in the last minutes of games instead of scoring another touchdown etc. iirc belichick and the patriots got some flak at some point because they kept scoring against helpless teams and people thought that wasn't nice or something ?

― Jibe, Tuesday, July 3, 2012 11:53 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is usually done in close games when a quarter or half is about to end to eliminate an interception or fumble which could allow the team on defense to score.

yeah i got a bit confused there. i'm still pretty sure about that story about teams being very resentful towards the pats and accusing them of running up the score when there was no need for that.

like a few teams whining about being destroyed by the pats or somethingin a couple of articles

Casillas comes across as patronising more than anything there IMO

every day, new ways to hate Spain

baseball is full of this 'running up the score' crap. Don't steal bases if you're up by 6 or 7 in the late innings, don't swing hard on a 3 ball 0 strike count if you are handily ahead etc etc etc.

The only time I've ever heard of American teams in any sport not running up the score is this situation: baseball team ahead by seven or more runs, runner on first. If the manager sends the signal for him to steal second, that's considered bad form.

Otherwise, guys don't stop because of their STATS. Why would a guy purposely lower his own stats? Cause he loves giving himself a weaker hand in the next round of contract negotiations?

i think maybe it seems american because the formal mercy rule for kids/amateur play is not used in britain afaik

He probably just wanted to get down the pub.

Kids' football, in my day anyway, always had brutal scores - the local papers were full of 13-0 and 14-0 wins. Even that might indicate a bit of mercy though - with two totally mismatched teams one could run in a goal a minute if it really wanted.

The pro game can't've had any truck with mercy in ye olden days, but I reckon there's usually a tacit understanding that four or five is enough, with seven as an absolute upper limit. Man Utd putting eight past Arsenal seemed horribly transgressive, and the couple of nines they've managed too.

Aye, but when leagues could come down to goal difference, hammering the opposition if possible is actually quite useful.

(I realise this doesn't apply in the Euro final)

I absolutely 100% subscribe to hammering the opposition, and I wish we'd done it at 5-a-side on Monday instead of slowing down when we were 7-2 ahead and then getting beaten 15-11.

I remember saying in the Prem thread last season (possibly re Chelsea-QPR) that no team ever scores five before half time - four is relatively common

5-a-side on Monday was super-amusing as everyone made a conscious effort to play like Iniesta for the first 20 minutes, and then lapsed into the usual headless-chicken dribbling and rushing when concentration lapsed.

Man Utd putting eight past Arsenal seemed horribly transgressive, and the couple of nines they've managed too.

'Only' the one nine, isn't it? (v Ipswich in 95)

this was pretty awkward i remember http://uk.soccerway.com/matches/1993/03/02/england/premier-league/sheffield-united-fc/tottenham-hotspur-football-club/555420/

I know Spurs did it recently, but I thought you'd had a big one over Forest too

That was 8, I think

yeah, it was 8-1. Solskjaer came off the bench to score four

It is pretty funny to hear about an actual minnow getting smashed, like Germany taking San Marino(?) for 13. God knows what that game where Australia scored 31 was like.

Many years ago I joined a five-a-side league (with some mates, not as a one-man team) and we got absolutely slaughtered. The scorelines were something like 21-3 and 18-1 and the games were only 45 minutes long, iirc. Unimaginably dispiriting - our goalkeeper would roll it out to one of us and we'd immediately be closed down with no passes on and either lose possession or pass it back to the keeper again. After two matches we just gave up.

cruyff testimonial to thread

perhaps my fave single football match ever

The meaninglessness of the match is what makes the Cruyff testimonial so awesome. Bayern just dished it out purely to fuck with them.

i dunno if the actively decorous mercy thing in footer really rings true tbh, it's just a natural gestalt subconscious fluctuation in desire

like the final on sunday spain were alright with seeing it out and then the wind suddenly changed for a bit and it was all wahey

'Only' the one nine, isn't it? (v Ipswich in 95)

Ipswich totally deserved that stuffing after the misery of the 6-0 defeat they dished out to Man Utd in 1980 iirc.

Anyhow, what's this about England rising to #4 in the FIFA rankings?

i can't work that out, there must be a bunch of teams who consistently place higher than us in tournaments, assume the rankings are based on some kind of Sensi Soccer pool in FIFA HQ or sumpn

Australia vs Samoa was a circus partly because there was visa trouble which kept all but one of Samoa's original team out, and their under-20 team was doing exams. They had to draft in their youth team - the average age of their 11 was 18.

Mind you, the previous record was Australia 22-0 Tonga, two days before.

i think pretty much all the teams that played in the euros went up in rank. if you didn't play competitively this year then you go down, e.g. brazil

you know i'm obliged to do an "England did not play competitively this year" line now, right?

there was some complaint in italy when roma scored seven vs someone crap a few years ago (when they were playing the og 460)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvk-M2KPG1U

oh yeah well i'll believe anything with italian's bizarro honour/corruption confection

i do quite like prandelli's code of conduct thing although he'd probs get sued or something doing that in england

what was the reaction when united gubbed roma that time, fair dos theyre foreign savages or this is just not cricket?

"Last night was an epochal beating that Italian football has never previously suffered at the hands of the English," says Roma fan and columnist Candido Cannavò. "Now I run to father Dante to find out what circle of Hell my beloved Roma has fallen into: maybe that of the proud and vainglorious. Conceding three goals in eight minutes could only have happened to a squad that thought it was divine."

conceding three goals in eight minutes is forgiveable, conceding a goal to alan smith (who hasn't scored in any of the five following seasons iirc) will besmirch their name for eternity

actually he scored two whole goals on his loan spell at mk dons last season, no word on which teams were responsible though

sheff utd of course

Wow, I'd forgotten Alan Smith existed.