japanese and thai lagers are better, but still things I'd only order in a restaurant.
― click here if you want to load them all (Hurting 2), Monday, 9 July 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link
I swear there was some blind taste-test experiment on the web where someone determined people rank grolsch and a couple others as the "cheapest" if they're given a bunch of beers to sample and try to blindly rank them.
― hot sauce delivery device (mh), Monday, 9 July 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link
Probably bc of the brown bottles. Maybe Kronenbourg is actually good when you get it in France? Then again, it's made by Carlsberg, purveyors of some of the worst imaginable euro piss.
― click here if you want to load them all (Hurting 2), Monday, 9 July 2012 15:44 (eleven years ago) link
There's a little French-themed bar close to me and Askance Johnson, and they have Kronenbourg on tap for $4/pint. It's not bad.
― Never translate Dutch (jaymc), Monday, 9 July 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link
As for Stella, I don't go out of my way to drink it, but I'll order it if I want a little flavor and the only other choices are watery domestics or malty low-hopped ales. PBR is best for when I want to keep it light -- as the last beer of the night, or as something to drink while I'm sweating.
― Never translate Dutch (jaymc), Monday, 9 July 2012 16:03 (eleven years ago) link
I'd like to see a favorite beer styles poll. But there are too many options.
― Jeff, Monday, 9 July 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link
That's a good idea! There's fifty poll options allowed, right? I'm sure you could whittle all the beer styles down to that? Maybe?
― i invented steampunk (askance johnson), Monday, 9 July 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link
Though picking one beer style as a favorite would perhaps be impossible.
― i invented steampunk (askance johnson), Monday, 9 July 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link
Beer Advocate lists 105. I could definitely pick a favorite style.
― Jeff, Monday, 9 July 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah I can't stand Stella, Heiniken, or Pilsner Urquell when I've had them, they all taste terribly skunky to me and I'd rather not have any beer than one of these.
I used to not like lagers or pilsners at all - or maybe I just didn't see the point in bothering - but I've started to dig them with certain foods, especially sushi. I'll get micros in bottles sometimes but honestly they aren't THAT different than canned macros.
If I have a can of cheap beer, my favorites are:
1) Old Mil2) PBR3) Miller High Life
Though honestly they're all sort of interchangeable to me. Except Rainier and Kokanee which I don't really like.
― joygoat, Monday, 9 July 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link
Styles for me are easy: IPAs and Belgian style trippels. Everything else comes much further down the line.
― joygoat, Monday, 9 July 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link
goddamit, jeff, I think you're right. Too many styles, just too many.
xpost
― i invented steampunk (askance johnson), Monday, 9 July 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
I think you could probably consolidate styles and eliminate some outliers? E.g. there are a lot of lager styles that are similar.
― click here if you want to load them all (Hurting 2), Monday, 9 July 2012 16:21 (eleven years ago) link
I'm glad you volunteered! Here's the BA list:
AltbierAmerican Adjunct LagerAmerican Amber / Red AleAmerican Amber / Red LagerAmerican BarleywineAmerican Black AleAmerican Blonde AleAmerican Brown AleAmerican Dark Wheat AleAmerican Double / Imperial IPAAmerican Double / Imperial PilsnerAmerican Double / Imperial StoutAmerican IPAAmerican Malt LiquorAmerican Pale Ale (APA)American Pale LagerAmerican Pale Wheat AleAmerican PorterAmerican StoutAmerican Strong AleAmerican Wild AleBaltic PorterBelgian Dark AleBelgian IPABelgian Pale AleBelgian Strong Dark AleBelgian Strong Pale AleBerliner WeissbierBière de Champagne / Bière BrutBière de GardeBlack & TanBockBraggotCalifornia Common / Steam BeerChile BeerCream AleCzech PilsenerDoppelbockDortmunder / Export LagerDubbelDunkelweizenEisbockEnglish BarleywineEnglish BitterEnglish Brown AleEnglish Dark Mild AleEnglish India Pale Ale (IPA)English Pale AleEnglish Pale Mild AleEnglish PorterEnglish StoutEnglish Strong AleEuro Dark LagerEuro Pale LagerEuro Strong LagerExtra Special / Strong Bitter (ESB)FaroFlanders Oud BruinFlanders Red AleForeign / Export StoutFruit / Vegetable BeerGerman PilsenerGoseGueuzeHapposhuHefeweizenHerbed / Spiced BeerIrish Dry StoutIrish Red AleJapanese Rice LagerKeller Bier / Zwickel BierKölschKristalweizenKvassLambic - FruitLambic - UnblendedLight LagerLow Alcohol BeerMaibock / Helles BockMärzen / OktoberfestMilk / Sweet StoutMunich Dunkel LagerMunich Helles LagerOatmeal StoutOld AlePumpkin AleQuadrupel (Quad)RauchbierRoggenbierRussian Imperial StoutRye BeerSahtiSaison / Farmhouse AleSchwarzbierScotch Ale / Wee HeavyScottish AleScottish Gruit / Ancient Herbed AleSmoked BeerTripelVienna LagerWeizenbockWheatwineWinter WarmerWitbier
― Jeff, Monday, 9 July 2012 16:22 (eleven years ago) link
Why do I feel like we've done this already?
― Never translate Dutch (jaymc), Monday, 9 July 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link
let's be real, no one is going to vote winter warmer or pumpkin ale.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 9 July 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link
everybody nominate yer top 10 styles then we vote?!?!
― one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 9 July 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link
idk.
We may have done it, but I could find nothing via search. But that's not saying much, it could be buried in there somewhere.
― Jeff, Monday, 9 July 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link
eh, who knows? I like pumpkin ale and winter warmers just fine, though, yeah, I wouldn't ever vote them as my favorite. I would have a hard time removing more than a few styles from that list. x-post to ian
Also, despite the fact that I drink beer constantly, I still feel like there are a lot of styles I'm not familiar enough with.
― i invented steampunk (askance johnson), Monday, 9 July 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link
has there been a simple ale v lager poll? that's about as much as you need to know, imo
― mizzell, Monday, 9 July 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link
Guess I am thinking of ILX DRINK Fight Nomination/ Question Thread
― Never translate Dutch (jaymc), Monday, 9 July 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link
also, now I want to try some kvass and some braggot
― i invented steampunk (askance johnson), Monday, 9 July 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link
Quite honestly, 1-10 for me = American IPA. I rarely drink much else, probably should.
― David Allan Cow (Dan Peterson), Monday, 9 July 2012 16:32 (eleven years ago) link
Are there any steam beers other than Anchor Steam that are readily available?
― hot sauce delivery device (mh), Monday, 9 July 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link
ipa (us and english), american amber/red ale. though i'm not actually sure what classification the darker beers i like come under.
― Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link
Enjoyed a Sixpoint Resin last night. Probably prefer Bengali Tiger, though.
― Never translate Dutch (jaymc), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link
There is a braggot on the menu of this bar I'm in tonight. Cantus Caeli 2010.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 00:14 (eleven years ago) link
This list is actually amazing. But $$$$$$$$$.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 00:15 (eleven years ago) link
Bottle list from last night: http://50.22.2.126/~churchke/sites/default/files/BBCK%20ONLINE%20BOTTLE%20LIST%207-5-12.pdf
― Jeff, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 11:59 (eleven years ago) link
Oh weird, I was actually just looking at that menu last night. Going to D.C. next month.
― Never translate Dutch (jaymc), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:15 (eleven years ago) link
have you guys ever seen this stateside?
http://www.six3.tv/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Six3-Kernel-IPA-e1313500031464.jpg
it's quite prominent in london but the more things i try the more i rate it. it most likely isn't available across the water i guess.
― Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:57 (eleven years ago) link
Haven't seen it.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:01 (eleven years ago) link
Jaymc, definitely worth a trip. And if you stick to their drafts, not too expense. You can even get 4 oz pours on everything.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link
churchkey is the best! when i was there last week for the bell's black note tapping, all the tables had kegs of upland and cigar city stashed under them, presumably for some sort of nefarious dc beer week purposes
― scream blahula scream (govern yourself accordingly), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link
Ha, I'm back at churchkey tonight. I'm glad this place isn't in Chicago, it would bankrupt me.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 22:31 (eleven years ago) link
Drank tonight:
JW Lee's Harvest Ale 1999. I don't think I've ever drank a 12 year old beer before. I was not of legal drinking age when this beer was born.
Avery Uncle Jacob's Bourbon stout. 17%!!! Not the highest abv beer I've drank, but up there. This is an abrasive beer. I would like to taste this bottle in 5 years.
Ola Dubh Special Reserve 18. Taste like whiskey.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 23:40 (eleven years ago) link
Oh, and the night before I had a 2009 Older Viscosity. Maybe one of the top 25 beers I've ever had. Right in my wheelhouse as far as style goes though, a barrel aged barley wine. Reminded me a lot of Goose Island's King Henry.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 13:28 (eleven years ago) link
For a reasonably priced massmarket beer, I'm really loving the new Widmer Rotator series, Shaddock IPA, which adds grapefruit peel to the Citra hops. Perfect summer IPA.
― David Allan Cow (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 13:50 (eleven years ago) link
The rotater beers are alright - cheap and they seem to do some interesting ones.
― joygoat, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:49 (eleven years ago) link
hmmm i will have to try that
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link
had this years monks sour ale and how the mighty have fallen :( cuvee des jacobins has ruined me for all other sours i think.
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
I tried Left Hand Brewery's Sawtooth Ale recently. It was not bad - to my taste buds, it's somewhere between an English-style ale and a Pale Ale - a bit hoppy but also slightly malty and balanced. Not particularly memorable though.
― o. nate, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 20:55 (eleven years ago) link
cuvee des jacobins
Saw this in Whole Foods and it was $22 for a 4-pack of 12 oz bottles. I think the one time I've had it in a bar it cost about the same (likely a somewhat smaller pour, but still). It is a great sour, though.
― nickn, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link
yeah the cuvee is a good way for a beer drinker to get poor, thats a pretty standard price. although hey if you buy bombers in the $11 range its the same thing by volume/$ so eh. it could be worse.
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 21:45 (eleven years ago) link
hey if you buy bombers in the $11 range its the same thing by volume/$ so eh. it could be worse.
That's true, though I usually get cold feet when bombers are above $8. OTOH, I buy plenty of wine for $10-15/bottle, and go for Deliriums at $10-11, so maybe it's just a perception thing. One thing about the C des J, I doubt if I would drink more than one at a time. When I tried it I also ordered fish and chips - didn't need vinegar!
― nickn, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 22:25 (eleven years ago) link
Sawtooth Ale is probably my least favorite of Left Hand's -- their Black Jack Porter is worth a try. the stranger APA is pretty solid too.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 22:27 (eleven years ago) link
i just got a six pack of the stranger and (although i dont trust the store i got it from so that may have contributed) it was pretty bland and a little skunky. havent really found a left hand that i love yet, but i wont stop trying.
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 22:38 (eleven years ago) link
i live right near left hand so i haven't had skunky stranger, but i can see it being a bit on the bland side -- i kind of like that it's a little bit mellow.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 22:52 (eleven years ago) link
did the vt run again this past week, posting pic of what is likely the best reg production beer in america
http://www.howigit.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/alch-heady.jpg
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 12 July 2012 03:32 (eleven years ago) link