quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a rolling new york times thread

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I really dgi. Isn't LA much like NYC in its overpriced-city-that-idiot-twenty-somethings-come-to-live-a-fantasy-in-ness?

click here if you want to load them all (Hurting 2), Monday, 9 July 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

Worse than the people who outright insult LA, though, are the ones who do so indirectly by suggesting that LA is just a sad mound of glitter trying desperately to be New York. That slur says we're worse than nothing, because we're nothing with absurd dreams of being great, like a high school laughingstock daring to think he could be the prom king.

this is the worst, why is this happening

what is the point of this entire article

i am idiot 40something and if i were rich i would totally live in nyc or la. but only if i were rich. okay maybe just nyc but i would visit la!

scott seward, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

I wish I could remember who I was speaking with or reading recently who was saying basically that most people who come to New York with some kind of "dream" confuse living the scene with doing the work, and that the scene and just kind of trying to live what they think is a New York lifestyle winds up eating most of their time and money. Actually it might have been a thought catalog piece, of all things. But it was kind of OTM.

click here if you want to load them all (Hurting 2), Monday, 9 July 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link

there are millions of people with hundreds of interests—NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land

if i ever end up being one of these people who think NY or LA are literally the only two places in the country that exist, i want you to shoot me in the face until i am dead

NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Monday, 9 July 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

Follow up to the single in Chicago article

http://chicago.grubstreet.com/2012/07/new-york-times-stephanie-rosenbloom-billy-dec.html

Jeff, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link

can someone tell me if that gawker screed ever ends. chriiiiiist almighty it does go on

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 9 July 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link

No it's a bottomless tumblr

click here if you want to load them all (Hurting 2), Monday, 9 July 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link

haw, that piece actually originated on the writer's personal tumblr, so

http://cordjefferson.tumblr.com/post/16982580823/theres-an-aging-communist-at-cafe-tropical-who-wears-a

♆ (gr8080), Monday, 9 July 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

nytransplantcliches.tumblr.com

click here if you want to load them all (Hurting 2), Monday, 9 July 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

i want to live in a compound in l.a. w/a bunch of cool sexy people and we will have a swimming pool

lag∞n, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

it's a worn subject but i liked the piece. cord is an incredible writer.

J0rdan S., Monday, 9 July 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link

tbf there were good bits

click here if you want to load them all (Hurting 2), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

i-moved-to-a-crowded-shithole-to-feel-important.html

am0n, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, I don't really see what the problem is (aside from maybe what Jordan just said). I thought it was pretty great.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

x-post - Lots of people do stupid shit when they're young including moving to crowded shitholes.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

it was better when he was talking about ny than when he was writing about why he feels at home in LA (thought the ending was kind of a clunker) but i identified with the feelings overall (not that i've lived in either NY or LA)

but if it was just a tumblr post it makes more sense that it wasn't exactly bulletproof

J0rdan S., Monday, 9 July 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

x-post - Says the person who went to college in NYC because it was pretty much the only place I wanted to be at 20.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

They offered me the pipe but I begged off, and as the discussion shifted to Xbox versus Wii, I tuned out and stared blankly into the alleyway, where an open trashcan was slowly filling up with rainwater. It looked a lot like the trashcans from my old building in New York, the ones I used to look at from on high, staring disgustedly at the rats brazenly waltzing about. Now the rats playing around the trash were my fellow Angelinos and I, wet, laughing, hungover, stoned. I think my New York self would have cringed at the thought of rubbing shoulders with aging porn actors in a musty storeroom in the Valley. I think he would have considered it a life not worth leading. That day, with those strangers whom I’ll probably never see again, it felt like a real home.

i hate this

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

I also had a crush on Rosie Perez when I was a kid but it was from White Men Can't Jump

click here if you want to load them all (Hurting 2), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

x-post - Lots of people do stupid shit when they're young including moving to crowded shitholes.

― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Monday, July 9, 2012 4:05 PM

thankfully most don't write articles abt it

am0n, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

ny is cool tho most people in cords cohort would prob only admit to the sort of feelings he describes coked up

lag∞n, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

why am I the only one who cares about the blase reaction to the old woman pooping on the sidewalk

I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

I think he does an alright job of capturing the way nyc can be fun when you're poor but young enough to have the energy to run all over the place and stay up late all the time and find everything fresh and interesting.

click here if you want to load them all (Hurting 2), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

^^^ yes

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

"poor"

am0n, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

DJP it's NY don't you see? A little sidewalk pooping is nbd.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, poor in quotes, for sure

click here if you want to load them all (Hurting 2), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

x-post - lol you really hated this article. You know what he meant.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

you gotta take the good with the bad, and sometimes the bad involves an old lady pooping on the sidewalk *shrug* I LOVE THIS TOWN

I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

I would buy to-go margaritas from a little place in the Lower East Side and drink them while walking home across the Williamsburg Bridge.

el hat

lag∞n, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link

I'm sure I would also find things to like about living other places, but jesus christ some of you can make it sound like us senior citizens can hardly drag our withered carcasses out for yet another round of druggy clubbing and without that sole source of entertainment, we may as well be locked in a windowless basement hovel.

There was a lady who pooped on sidewalks in New Brunswick and it wasn't even VIBRANT there.

click here if you want to load them all (Hurting 2), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link

tbf, i am writing from a windowless basement and waiting till it gets dark to go druggy clubbing

Authorities don't know who shot the 50 Cent the goose. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link

She also once pooped on the floor of Wachovia Bank, a gesture of which I wholeheartedly approved.

click here if you want to load them all (Hurting 2), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link

all over the world people are pooping in all different places amen

lag∞n, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link

you haven't really pooped until you've pooped in new york

Authorities don't know who shot the 50 Cent the goose. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link

New Yorkers think their sidewalks are the only ones worth shitting on

click here if you want to load them all (Hurting 2), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link

in new york the sidewalks are paved with shit

lag∞n, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link

Isn't it "Angelenos," not "Angelinos"?

Never translate Dutch (jaymc), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

when i shat on an LA sidewalk all my NY friends sneered

NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

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♆ (gr8080), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link

^^actual photograph taken in new york city

♆ (gr8080), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link

that article is okay but its not that compelling. i liked living in new york and now i have found that i like living somewhere else as well. who knew??? and the LA/NYC thing is played out. lots of people know how cool the west coast can be/is. making fun of LA is just kinda the thing to do if you live in NYC and the other way around. or if you live in the middle somewhere. then you make fun of both places.

scott seward, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:42 (eleven years ago) link

why am I the only one who cares about the blase reaction to the old woman pooping on the sidewalk

― I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Monday, July 9, 2012 10:10 AM (31 minutes ago)

. At the sight of the pooping woman, I heard a man to my left say to his horrified companion, "It's, like, New York, y'know?"

♆ (gr8080), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link

For a city of its population and density, NYC probably has relatively little public defecation

hot sauce delivery device (mh), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:50 (eleven years ago) link

the horrified companion gets no words, but the enthralled New Yorker gets to reaffirm, hey, this is what it means to live here, you wanna roll with NYC you gotta expect to see an old woman pooping on the sidewalk

I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link

i dunno how i would react to seeing someone poop on the sidewalk tbh

max, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link


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