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Do not panic, fellow parasites and meatbags. Despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary available anywhere you care to look, Mr. Brooks has filed another column from Capitalist Valhalla to assure us that our elite overlords are not Randite killbots who think of us as wee grapes of labor to be stomped for the wine of maximized profit...or a gobbets of harvestable organs...or a parasitic moochers who use the figleaf of democracy to expropriate their hard-earned wealth and piss it away on our stupid roads. and bridges and cops and teachers.

Not at all.

You will be reassured to know that your elite overlords are, in fact, better than you in every way.

I’d say today’s meritocratic elites achieve and preserve their status not mainly by being corrupt but mainly by being ambitious and disciplined. They raise their kids in organized families. They spend enormous amounts of money and time on enrichment. They work much longer hours than people down the income scale, driving their kids to piano lessons and then taking part in conference calls from the waiting room.

In fact, the only real problem with out elites is that they are just too damned humble to take up the mantle of their elitehood!
The problem is that today’s meritocratic elites cannot admit to themselves that they are elites.

And after a mere 400 words defending of your betters (delivered from the wallow of his own dread that people will discover what a terrible fraud he is), Mr. Brooks uncovers the "real" problem with our elites, which -- surprise! -- also happens to be the same "real" problem he uncovers at the root of every other problem in every other column: bad morals.
Today’s elite is more talented and open but lacks a self-conscious leadership code. The language of meritocracy (how to succeed) has eclipsed the language of morality (how to be virtuous).
All of our problems would just melt away if only we gave up on modernity as a bad job, rolled back the 20th Century entirely and re-entered the good old days of Victoria Regina and the Gilded Age.

No, I am not kidding:
The best of the WASP elites had a stewardship mentality, that they were temporary caretakers of institutions that would span generations. They cruelly ostracized people who did not live up to their codes of gentlemanly conduct and scrupulosity. They were insular and struggled with intimacy, but they did believe in restraint, reticence and service.

Within the frame of a rebuttal to Chris Hayes' book, "The Twilight of the Elites", Mr. Brooks is arguing for a return to 19th century Conservatism -- a massively whitewashed and Disneyfied 19th century Conservatism -- as a tonic to the rise of the "brats" at the "center of the Libor scandal...[and] so many recent scandals" who demonstrate...
...no sense that they are guardians for an institution the world depends on; they have no consciousness of their larger social role.

As always, Mr. Brooks simply ignores those wide swaths of inconvenient history which make his premise sound silly.

For example, during the 1960s and 1970s (the decades of which Mr. Brooks most virulently disapproves) elite institutions of 1960s and 1970s -- which were run in exactly the way Mr. Brooks' approves -- were not challenged or abandoned lightly: they were challenged because they failed us spectacularly and serially and because they lied about their failures. There is no greater, single example of the iron fist within Mr. Brooks velvet-gloved elitism than Richard Nixon's infamous assertion that, if the President of the United States breaks the law, it is not illegal.

Mr. Brooks infantile reading of history and his infatuation with the charms of a genteel paternalistic Conservatism that never existed in reality in the country has no place for the Civil Rights Movement or Vietnam or Watergate, which is why Mr. Brooks routinely skips over the entire era with an eye-rolling dismissal of the Dirty Hippies, along with most of the less happyfun bits of the last couple of centuries.

From Mr. Charlie Pierce:
...

Actually, Wall Street is working exactly the same as it worked 80 years ago, when the Protestant Establishment ran the country into a Depression, and the way it worked in 1873, when the Protestant Establishment ran the country into a panic in which unemployment hit 14 percent, and the way it worked in 1837, when the Protestant Establishment ran the country into a panic in which bank failures in New York alone cost the country $100 million. There were also panics in 1911, 1907, 1901, 1896, 1893, 1890, 1884, 1873, 1857,1825, 1819, 1796, and 1792. Hidden cabals of Zoroastrians were not involved in any of these. The argument is that injustice might provide better outcomes? Thanks, no.

Christopher Hayes of MSNBC and The Nation believes that the problem is inherent in the nature of meritocracies. In his book, "Twilight of the Elites," he argues that meritocratic elites may rise on the basis of grades, effort and merit, but, to preserve their status, they become corrupt. They create wildly unequal societies, and then they rig things so that few can climb the ladders behind them. Meritocracy leads to oligarchy.

'Twas always thus. For details, please see: XVI, Louis The. Chris Hayes is very smart. Read his book.

It's a challenging argument but wrong. I'd say today's meritocratic elites achieve and preserve their status not mainly by being corrupt but mainly by being ambitious and disciplined. They raise their kids in organized families. They spend enormous amounts of money and time on enrichment. They work much longer hours than people down the income scale, driving their kids to piano lessons and then taking part in conference calls from the waiting room.

Of course, you would. That's your answer to every question. The waitress asks you how you want your eggs in the morning, you say, "I don't care, as long as they come from organized families." And, I might add, if you're taking part in your conference calls from "the waiting room" while little Muffy groans through her ballet lessons, it means you have a cking job. And I'd like an offer of proof on that sentence about how Muffy and Trey's parents "work harder than people down the income scale" for the same reason I'd like an offer of proof that Brooks is not a complete dick, since only a complete dick would describe driving your kids to heir extracurriculars as "work."

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The other giant stink bug in Mr. Brooks' Victorian pomade is Ayn Rand.

The public intellectual who has been more responsible that anyone for the giddy, amoral rapacity and bone-deep contempt for institutions which Mr. Brooks now decries is not Ed Asner (whom Mr. Brooks despises) of Noam Chomsky (whom Mr. Brooks really despises), but the very, very ,very Conservative Ms. Ayn Rand.

Ayn Rand, who helped put Mr. Brooks' hero, Ronald Reagan, on the "Government is the Problem" path to the White House.

Ayn Rand, who gave Mr. Brooks' hero, Alan Greenspan, the intellectual terrarium within which he built his entire view of economics.

Ayn Rand, who taught an entire generation of Conservatives that "altruism" was contemptible fascist trickery on a par with Nazism, that all religions were lies and all belief in the divine was a sign of mental illness, that all taxes of any kind are slavery, and that the very idea of stewardship which Mr. Brooks longs for -- the notion of owing some sort of moral obligation to one's fellow human beings, present or future -- was Stalinist twaddle of the lowest order.

"The language of meritocracy (how to succeed)" did not eclipse "the language of morality (how to be virtuous)", Mr. Brooks. Instead, Ayn Rand and her heirs have spent half a century insisting that the language of meritocracy was the language of morality -- that rapacity was virtue -- and that anyone who suggested otherwise was a dirty Commie stooge who hated freedom, liberty and America.

Sound familiar?

And speaking of Mr. Brooks, where exactly was he while this parade of moral, fiscal and political catastrophe was rolling along?

Oh right!  Now I remember.  Mr. Brooks spent the last 30 years trotting along behind that parade every inch of the way, dog-loyal and intrepid, obediently lauding its heroes, pushing its crackpot economics, ruinous tax cuts and disastrous wars, and collecting his 30 pieces of silver for services.

Of course, if you prefer Mr. Brooks' Dream World straight-up and without all of his icky plutocrat-fawning, in 1931 a gentleman named Aldous Huxley drew up some very detailed blueprints of what it would look like.

From "Brave New World"):
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"What's the lesson this afternoon?" he asked. 
 "We had Elementary Sex for the first forty minutes," she answered. "But now it's switched over to Elementary Class Consciousness."

The Director walked slowly down the long line of cots. Rosy and relaxed with sleep, eighty little boys and girls lay softly breathing. There was a whisper under every pillow. The D.H.C. halted and, bending over one of the little beds, listened attentively.

"Elementary Class Consciousness, did you say? Let's have it repeated a little louder by the trumpet."

At the end of the room a loud speaker projected from the wall. The Director walked up to it and pressed a switch.

"… all wear green," said a soft but very distinct voice, beginning in the middle of a sentence, "and Delta Children wear khaki. Oh no, I don't want to play with Delta children. And Epsilons are still worse. They're too stupid to be able to read or write. Besides they wear black, which is such a beastly colour. I'm so glad I'm a Beta."

There was a pause; then the voice began again.

"Alpha children wear grey They work much harder than we do, because they're so frightfully clever. I'm really awfuly glad I'm a Beta, because I don't work so hard. And then we are much better than the Gammas and Deltas. Gammas are stupid. They all wear green, and Delta children wear khaki. Oh no, I don't want to play with Delta children. And Epsilons are still worse. They're too stupid to be able …"

The Director pushed back the switch. The voice was silent. Only its thin ghost continued to mutter from beneath the eighty pillows.

"They'll have that repeated forty or fifty times more before they wake; then again on Thursday, and again on Saturday. A hundred and twenty times three times a week for thirty months. After which they go on to a more advanced lesson."

Roses and electric shocks, the khaki of Deltas and a whiff of asafœtida–wedded indissolubly before the child can speak. But wordless conditioning is crude and wholesale; cannot bring home the finer distinctions, cannot inculcate the more complex courses of behaviour. For that there must be words, but words without reason. In brief, hypnopædia.

"The greatest moralizing and socializing force of all time."

The students took it down in their little books. Straight from the horse's mouth.

Once more the Director touched the switch.

"… so frightfully clever," the soft, insinuating, indefatigable voice was saying, "I'm really awfully glad I'm a Beta, because …"

Not so much like drops of water, though water, it is true, can wear holes in the hardest granite; rather, drops of liquid sealing-wax, drops that adhere, incrust, incorporate themselves with what they fall on, till finally the rock is all one scarlet blob.

"Till at last the child's mind is these suggestions, and the sum of the suggestions is the child's mind. And not the child's mind only. The adult's mind too–all his life long. The mind that judges and desires and decides–made up of these suggestions. But all these suggestions are our suggestions!" The Director almost shouted in his triumph. "Suggestions from the State." He banged the nearest table. "It therefore follows …"

President Keyes, Monday, 16 July 2012 01:03 (eleven years ago) link

That Romney ad is being pulled because they apparently didn't get permission to use the clips! Bob Schieffer actually announced on Face the Nation that he didn't authorize it.

timellison, Monday, 16 July 2012 01:11 (eleven years ago) link

Another felony on Romney's resume.

clemenza, Monday, 16 July 2012 01:13 (eleven years ago) link

On Twitter, Halperin wrote, “To echo what NBC News’ Tom Brokaw said in January, when his image and voice were used in a Romney campaign TV ad: ‘I am extremely uncomfortable with the use of my personal image in this political ad. I do not want my role as a journalist compromised for political gain by any campaign.’”

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/07/schieffer-halperin-protest-romney-ad-128999.html

timellison, Monday, 16 July 2012 01:23 (eleven years ago) link

xpost to mookie

i'll describe it on happenin' to our borad 77 thread since it may distract from the serious political discussion on this thread!

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Monday, 16 July 2012 01:50 (eleven years ago) link

Sullivan posted this picture alongside his round-up of Romney's ongoing troubles:

http://www.delawareliberal.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Romney.Sad_.jpg

I love how whenever a politician hits a bad spot, there's always a photo, often unrelated, of him or her looking dejected. It's like they pose for them ahead of time, so there's something on file when the moment comes.

clemenza, Monday, 16 July 2012 03:15 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.delawareliberal.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Romney.Sad_.jpg

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Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Monday, 16 July 2012 03:27 (eleven years ago) link

this facial expression

lag∞n, Monday, 16 July 2012 03:45 (eleven years ago) link

Apparently will become a key image of the campaign:

http://viehebdomadaires.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/pinocchio-small.jpg

clemenza, Monday, 16 July 2012 12:01 (eleven years ago) link

An acapella trail of compromising singsong also key for both sides:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIajeW6xPnI

clemenza, Monday, 16 July 2012 15:07 (eleven years ago) link

man, that's such a weak response ad. the lingering message it leaves is "obama's a better singer than romney"

your friend, (Z S), Monday, 16 July 2012 15:09 (eleven years ago) link

I actually think that's more or less as good as the Obama ad that started this...just as political theatre.

clemenza, Monday, 16 July 2012 15:10 (eleven years ago) link

is there anything else to this shit?

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 July 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link

Those commie pinkos at Bloomberg take a look at Romney's record at Bain and are . . . not pleased. They start with

Thanks to leverage, 10 of roughly 67 major deals by Bain Capital during Romney’s watch produced about 70 percent of the firm’s profits. Four of those 10 deals, as well as others, later wound up in bankruptcy. It’s worth examining some of them to understand Romney’s investment style at Bain Capital.
and end with
While Bain Capital wasn’t alone in using financial engineering to turbo-charge its returns, it was among the most aggressive under Romney’s leadership. Enriching investors by taking leveraged bets isn’t a qualification for a job requiring long-term vision and concern for public welfare. It is appropriate to point that out to voters.
And everything in between is pretty crazy-making:
In 1992, Bain Capital bought American Pad & Paper by financing 87 percent of the purchase price. In the next three years, Ampad borrowed to make acquisitions, repay existing debt and pay Bain Capital and its investors $60 million in dividends.

As a result, the company’s debt swelled from $11 million in 1993 to $444 million by 1995. The $14 million in annual interest expense on this debt dwarfed the company’s $4.7 million operating cash flow. The proceeds of an initial public offering in July 1996 were used to pay Bain Capital $48 million for part of its stake and to reduce the company’s debt to $270 million.

From 1993 to 1999, Bain Capital charged Ampad about $18 million in various fees. By 1999, the company’s debt was back up to $400 million. Unable to pay the interest costs and drained of cash paid to Bain Capital in fees and dividends, Ampad filed for bankruptcy the following year. Senior secured lenders got less than 50 cents on the dollar, unsecured lenders received two- tenths of a cent on the dollar, and several hundred jobs were lost. Bain Capital had reaped capital gains of $107 million on its $5.1 million investment.

Marco YOLO (Phil D.), Monday, 16 July 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link

the united states should try to buy other countries and then sell them for profit

your friend, (Z S), Monday, 16 July 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

Sullivan goes Spider-Man. (Last paragraph.)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 July 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link

That Bloomberg piece is pretty blunt:

What’s clear from a review of the public record during his management of the private-equity firm Bain Capital from 1985 to 1999 is that Romney was fabulously successful in generating high returns for its investors. He did so, in large part, through heavy use of tax-deductible debt, usually to finance outsized dividends for the firm’s partners and investors. When some of the investments went bad, workers and creditors felt most of the pain. Romney privatized the gains and socialized the losses.

What’s less clear is how his skills are relevant to the job of overseeing the U.S. economy, strengthening competitiveness and looking out for the welfare of the general public, especially the middle class.

And all of this starts a year or two before Gordon Gekko.

clemenza, Monday, 16 July 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link

"For the record, "puto" is Spanish for male prostitute. In Mexico it's used for cowards and traitors."

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2012/07/15/george-lopez-mitt-romney-f-king-latino-and-he-wont-admit-it

du. duplass. duplass mich. (goole), Monday, 16 July 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link

I put it to you this will not help:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/16/us/politics/pawlenty-looked-at-as-romney-running-mate.html

Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 July 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link

quick change the conversation, pick a running mate!

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 July 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

Romney campaign is so lol, gonna be a fun summer

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 July 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link

Pawlenty: "I'm working-class so I can relate."

Response: "But Romney would have fired you."

Pawlenty: "Haha thank you."

Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 July 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link

George Lopez's stand-up special was basically an hour of him cursing in Spanish, it was kind of great

PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Monday, 16 July 2012 15:49 (eleven years ago) link

Slate has a sidebar up saying Romney has made his pick. If it is Pawlenty, he will have to claim amnesia on coining the term Obamneycare.

clemenza, Monday, 16 July 2012 15:52 (eleven years ago) link

it's the "voodoo economics" of 2012

hot sauce delivery device (mh), Monday, 16 July 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link

True--and Biden had to contend with a couple of comments in '08.

clemenza, Monday, 16 July 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link

Pawlenty is a totally stupid pick for him, it will deflate any enthusiasm from the base

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 July 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link

Android/Mullet '12

PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Monday, 16 July 2012 15:59 (eleven years ago) link

30% chance Romney panics and accidentally picks Palin

I DIED, Monday, 16 July 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link

If he announces this week, I think it's tougher to guess who it'll be than if he were to follow the normal timetable. Has Romney concluded the past week was serious enough that he needs a major distraction? Then Rubio or Jindal or Christie or Ryan or a woman (but not Rice). Or does he think this is temporary, and that a month from now everything will have stabilized and it'll be back 95% to various economic reports? If so, I'd guess Portman or Pawlenty, agreeing that neither generates (or distracts from) much of anything.

clemenza, Monday, 16 July 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

congrats Natalie Portman, you will be a v v pretty VP

PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Monday, 16 July 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

Vice President Padme Amidala would be pretty rad though.

Marco YOLO (Phil D.), Monday, 16 July 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link

she sucks at trade negotiations iirc

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Monday, 16 July 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link

Or in keeping with suggestions upthread, he could play to his strength and name one of these two:

http://photo.superfan.com/0/001/039/1039811LG4026367891.jpg http://madinternetmarketing.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Money_Bag.png

clemenza, Monday, 16 July 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link

Romney couldn't pick his first choice due to him being a naturalized citizen:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a9/ScroogeFirst.jpg

PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Monday, 16 July 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link

"Your Republican candidate for Vice President, this inanimate carbon rod!"

http://communicategood.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/carbon-rod.jpg

Marco YOLO (Phil D.), Monday, 16 July 2012 16:21 (eleven years ago) link

I wonder if Romney picks a turd for VP there will be chaos at the RNC like when McGovern picked Eagleton and shit went to hell even faster

johnathan lee riche$ (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 16 July 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link

I think the Republicans could rally around Mr Hankey

PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Monday, 16 July 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link

Princess Padme too radical on civil liberties ("So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause")

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 July 2012 17:13 (eleven years ago) link

never absorbed resemblance btwn S McDuck and Cheney til now

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 July 2012 17:14 (eleven years ago) link

I wonder if Romney picks a turd for VP there will be chaos at the RNC like when McGovern picked Eagleton and shit went to hell even faster

― johnathan lee riche$ (mayor jingleberries), Monday, July 16, 2012 12:01 PM

Pawlenty is Welsh for "electroconvulsive therapy" iirc.

Neil Jung (WmC), Monday, 16 July 2012 17:23 (eleven years ago) link

I actually think that's more or less as good as the Obama ad that started this...just as political theatre.

― clemenza, Monday, July 16, 2012 11:10 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol wut

lag∞n, Monday, 16 July 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, I'll stand by that, with the qualification noted--i.e., not speaking to the truth of either ad, just the relative effectiveness of the each ad's juxtaposition.

clemenza, Monday, 16 July 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link

Or "of each ad's," minus the "the"--let's go with that.

clemenza, Monday, 16 July 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link

only pure Bamstanning is kosher here, clem

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 July 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

lost souls the both of you

lag∞n, Monday, 16 July 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link

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Marco YOLO (Phil D.), Monday, 16 July 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link

My screensaver yesterday:

http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t427/sayhey1/barack.jpg

Today:

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/7105/obama0304kc9.png

Will the prodigal son find his way back home? Stay tuned!

clemenza, Monday, 16 July 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link


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