NRO's The Corner 2: Ghost Protocol

I like the commenter who said 'but he was being ironic!'

NR must have some sort of internal betting pool/challenge on who can say the most racist things on The Corner without being fired

I was just about to post that! How in the world does he think that Nordlinger was being ironic in that post?

the "ironic!" comment is worth capturing in full:

It looks to me like Mr. Nordlinger used the w-word to be ironic. In the context of the other examples in that sentence, that's how it looks to me. Nothing offensive about it in this instance--and for the record, because I have a feeling that replies to this comment will be loaded with accusations of racism, I am not a racist.

the whole exchange is worth preserving imo:

Bobby Zimmerman
07/16/12 11:15

It looks to me like Mr. Nordlinger used the w-word to be ironic. In the context of the other examples in that sentence, that's how it looks to me. Nothing offensive about it in this instance--and for the record, because I have a feeling that replies to this comment will be loaded with accusations of racism, I am not a racist.

Maledictorian
07/16/12 11:31

Could you explain, in the context of that sentence, how that word was used ironically? Maybe I'm irony-challenged after listening to the Alanis Morissette song too many times, but I really don't see much irony, satire, or any other non-literal intent in the rest of that sentence. If we replaced it with a certain n-word would that have been ironic as well?

Bobby Zimmerman
07/16/12 12:29

"Spending like crazy" is the context: you can't use a phrase like that to make a serious point in an argument because it's pure hyperbole, hence my interpretation as irony. Given the broader context of the article, it made sense for Mr. Nordlinger to go over the top in characterizing the criticism of Reagan back then--and to get politically incorrect about it--to make the point that we look at the past through rose-colored glasses, especially when it seems that our least favorite parts of the past are a lot better than our not-quite-as-bad moments today.
And no, it would not been ironic for him to use the n-word, because the majority of illegal immigrants were and are from south of the border. It would've been stupid.

well, he's clearly writing from the perspective of a mindset, but I don't think that qualifies as "irony"

clearly using other wild hyperbolic and oh-so un-pc language for effect, such as "raising taxes" and "persuing arms control"

Wonder if Bobby is related to George.

i know dylan veered right for a while but shit

My mom almost got in a lot of trouble due to a misunderstanding when she asked a security guard at the school she worked for to "see if you can go borrow a wet vac from the cleaning staff to take care of the spill"

nordlinger to whiners: "Get a life. Get a frickin’ life."

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/309594/re-against-growth-jay-nordlinger

something about the word "frickin'" codes as very contemporary-conservative to me

What has gotten knickers in a twist is that word “wetback.” What should have been clear is that I was reflecting a certain mentality: the mentality of Reagan’s critics, some of them, at that time. The angst over tax deals, amnesty deals, arms deals, etc.

I have no doubt that most readers knew what I was doing. But I guess you have to issue these little “clarifications” for the benefit of the dim.

Look: I am not a politician. I’m a writer. And if you don’t like what I write — for heaven’s sake, there are 8 billion others you can click on. I would further say to the complainers, using a phrase I’ve never liked, frankly: Get a life. Get a frickin’ life.

One more word: If people wet their pants on seeing the word “wetback,” this country is as far gone as the most pessimistic and alarmist people say it is.

Two more words: Good grief.

love the "yeah but hes always full of shit" defense b/c it is pretty strong :/

Good grief.

the benefit of the dim: a jay nordlinger reader

omg omg you guys dubya's on the hoover institution presents uncommon knowledge with peter robinson. "eight years was awesome! y'know, i was famous and powerful... but i have found that life after the presidency is awesome."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_gst-Ryh3g

this is from the comments on a pretty desperate-sounding Michael Medved editorial on the Daily Beast but I feel it merits representation on this thread. the screenname is especially great.

SendClunkerBackToChicagoNoRebate
28 Minutes Ago
Barack Hussein Obama is about to be "Arpaio Boated". Today at 5:30 PM EST Worldnet daily will be live streaming the SECOND Sheriff Joe Arpaio press conference. He will add more criminal evidence to what they have already discovered. The April 27th, 2011 computer generated birth record that Obama has been flaunting on Coffee mugs and T-Shirts is definitely a forgery. These investigators are also saying that Obama fraudulently registered with the Selective Service and their evidence shows that Obama's postal stamp is the only stamp with a two digit number for a date. It was a very poor fraudulent registration. As the criminal investigation continues they will enlighten the American citizens that this usurper has been using a fraudulent SS#, one the the Social Security Administration said they never issued to Barack Hussein Obama. He may have some splanin to do on that one. It has been FLAGGED on several occasions, so much so the SS Admin, stopped people from reporting it (042-68-4425). It is the number he has been using for a very long time. Don't ya love these early "October surprises?" As in Watergate it takes a long time to blow the covers off scandals, it is more difficult to do at this time since the media has become a "state run media" who have a love affair with this Man/Chld but it will eventually cause the man to crash and burn in embarrassment to all his grand brilliant supporters.

That's been the problem for three years: the proliferation of Obama coffee mugs.

Any time I see someone using "Barack Hussein Obama" I immediately tune out.

I immediately sing "mmm mmm mmm"

some of the horoscopes discussion on ilx a few weeks ago made me decide to believe in horoscopes because ... now i get to believe in horoscopes, which is more fun than not. & think how exciting it would be to really believe in a birther conspiracy, feeding off the rabbithole of telling erroneously dated mail-stamps & enhanced jpgs of photoshop watermarking.

also clunker ^^ coulda squeezed in a paragraph break to let the light relief of He may have some splanin to do on that one really breathe. poor form clunks.

Nords on fire lately:

Anyway, our reader recalls that Bill Clinton, in the ’92 debates, insisted on referring to his opponent as “Mr. Bush,” rather than “Mr. President.” I recall that when Bob Dole debated Clinton four years later, he said (something like), “I’m going to call you ‘Mr. President,’ a courtesy you did not extend to President Bush.” So, asks our reader, will Romney go “Mr. President” or “Mr. Obama”?

The former, surely. No chance he can get away with what Clinton got away with in ’92. Indeed, who among us can get away with what Clinton got away with?

I wonder who Nordlinger ships Mitt with

I can see it now: Romney turns to Obama in debate and says, “We need businessmen, Mr. President. If we didn’t have them — whom would you lawyers sue?”

i wish i could see mitt saying "whom" at a debate

I can see it now: Romney turns to Obama in debate and says, “We need businessmen, Mr. President. If we didn’t have them — who's zoomin' who?”

how is Rich LOLwry editor of anything:

"All of us rely on others to make us what we are — our families, our communities, etc. At another level, it is profoundly disturbing: It denies pride of place to individual achievement and creativity. Pace Obama, roads and bridges aren’t the key ingredients to business success. All of us drive on the roads; very few of us have the vision and determination to become successful entrepreneurs."

Isn't the natural conclusion to the clause "All of us drive on the roads" "very few of us have the vision and determination to build one"? Maybe he meant to write "All of us drive on the roads; very few of us have the determination to run over dumbfucks like me who get starbursts of joy when I imagine Sarah Palin winking at me."

maybe he changed it because he realized the federal government is responsible for a whole lot of road and bridge funding

do lawyers even sue people

i thought businessmen sued people and then hired lawyers

linked to from the corner:

http://www.openmarket.org/2012/07/13/the-other-scandal-in-unhappy-valley/

...perhaps it’s time that we revisit the Michael Mann affair, particularly given how much we’ve also learned about his and others’ hockey-stick deceptions since. Mann could be said to be the Jerry Sandusky of climate science, except that instead of molesting children, he has molested and tortured data in the service of politicized science that could have dire economic consequences for the nation and planet.

classy

linked and approved by mark steyn, of course

I can see it now: Romney turns to Obama in debate and says, “We need businessmen, Mr. President. If we didn’t have them — GROCERY BAG”

okay winner

no this is the winnner:

To my homies’ posts below — here and here — I’d like to add something. It would seem far-fetched that George W. Bush could ever be a Nobel peace laureate. After all, the committee hated his guts. You could argue that they gave five awards against Bush 43 — or in reaction to him, or with him in mind. In 2001, Kofi Annan and the U.N. In 2002, Jimmy Carter. In 2005, Mohamed ElBaradei and the IAEA. In 2007, Al Gore and the IPCC. And in 2009, Barack Obama.

When Carter won, the committee chairman did us the favor of stating, bluntly, that they were rapping Bush, as well as honoring Carter.

But consider: The committee hated Reagan’s guts too — in the 1980s, I mean, when the Gipper was president. There were some anti-Reagan Nobels. The committee told Costa Rica’s Oscar Arias in 1987 that they were giving him the prize in order to arm him with a weapon against Reagan. Arias later remarked to Robert Kagan, “Reagan was responsible for my prize.”

Okay, flash forward — in 2009, the chairman is giving the “presentation speech” for Obama. And he cites Reagan. Favorably. Hails him as a president who recognized that “America’s ideals were the world’s ideals”! A stunning turn of events.

I say in my book, “In future Nobel ceremonies, will chairmen be praising and quoting George W. Bush?” Stranger things have happened (though maybe not many). Time can be a healer and clarifier.

that almost made me punch my computer screen

he had me at "homies"

homies rapping Bush

man, knowing even a few things about central america in the 70s and 80s is enough to make that shit about Arias turn your stomach

Nordlinger grimly tallying rainbows

In Saugatuck, there are many rainbow flags, outside shops and homes. There are even more in neighboring Douglas — more than in Greenwich Village, I think. Years ago, the chant was, “We’re here, we’re queer, get used to it.” Oh, I think we’re plenty used to it by now. Are the signs and flags all that necessary?

His coy "oh"s and short sentences bespeak a kind of retardation.

Oh, I think we’re plenty used to it by now.

Then why does the Corner continue to whine constantly about gay people?

It is comforting to know that I was correct in my assessment that Romney is not Bane. Yet that has not stopped Democrats from continuing their Internet campaign to connect the two characters, as evidenced below.

http://c6.nrostatic.com/dest/2012/07/19/pic_corner_071912_NB_B_2_2eb18ca02e7af875160824f7405cc02d.jpg

tbh when i first saw that i thought . . . boba fett?

what if he doesn't win? He's worth a lot to me

whatta maroon

The Polish View of the 2012 Campaign
by George Weigel

no offense but seriously who gives a shit

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/310400/why-did-chicken-cross-gays-mark-steyn

[Approved commenter] Teflon93
07/24/12 08:56

We shouldn't be surprised by The Muppets' turn---they spend their lives with a man's fist wedged up their backsides.

otm

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/311448/rap-radio-resentment-and-romney-kevin-d-williamson

go to it, guys