quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a rolling new york times thread

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the blog is terrible but from a "i'm gonna get a book and tv pilot deal" it's fucking perfect, so i have trouble finding myself hating

J0rdan S., Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link

what's with this part of the article where the writer spends four paragraphs acting like "fuck" is some egregious curse word or something

J0rdan S., Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link

jordan this is not a thing that is difficult to hate

lag∞n, Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link

i don't have any trouble hating but i'm having a lot of trouble working up the energy to try to be funny about it

goole, Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

the tumblr blows, the nyt profile blows, the fact of its existence blows

goole, Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link

see that's why she makes the big money, a real work ethic

j., Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:11 (eleven years ago) link

i really don't identify with this 20s life crisis shit AT ALL which is why i find both 'girls' and this blog to be incredibly, monumentally embarrassing (altho i like lena dunham when i see her outside the framework of the show). like, kill my generation type shit. granted i'm not a girl so maybe that's part of why i can't align w/ so much of this stuff but, this theatrical exaggeration of minimal life stresses is truly just the worst.

this blog is so pitch perfect for that kind of audience tho that i find myself deep shame undercut slightly by being impressed

J0rdan S., Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link

oh man the parents almost made it thru the article w/o just completely embarrassing themselves but

“Yes, I would have loved to renovate our kitchen,” she added

J0rdan S., Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:17 (eleven years ago) link

cool how everyone has their generational role down

lag∞n, Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link

that quote would be perfect for the 50-something version of the daughter's blog

*stars*YES*stars*
*squiggles*I would have*squiggles*
*hearts*LOVED*hearts*
*lines*to renovate our*lines*
*spatula*KITCHEN*spatula*
*squiggles*BUT*squiggles*
*money symbols*our daughter's RENT*money symbols*
*"I <3 NY" shirt*in the EAST VILLAGE is*"I <3 NY" shirt*
*money symbols*$1,200*money symbols*
*calendar*a MONTH*calendar*

J0rdan S., Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

He has met her parents.

J0rdan S., Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:23 (eleven years ago) link

i am realizing that the tumblr of the 80s was pinbacks

I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link

Her first thought was to make it a zine, but the cost of photocopying was beyond her means

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

gen x grunge people were just as embarrassing.

scott seward, Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

^ those are basically vampire weekend lyrics, they even rhyme
xpost

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link

the last cool gen was the feathered hair camaro keep on truckin' gen. then it all went to hell.

scott seward, Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

the cost of photocopying was beyond her means

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

work a shitty clerical job with access to a copier, hey free copies

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link

now THIS is how you end a new york times article:

Now that she has steady work, and her housing is taken care of (her new rent is $500 and she can pay it on her own), she should be feeling less anxious, right?

Wrong. What’s terrifying her these days, she said, is driving on the freeway.

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link

technically the van halen generation were baby boomers but they were way cooler than prototypical boomers.

i can't read this blog i'd have to open the whole damn thread...probably not worth it?

scott seward, Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link

and i can't look at the nyt thing because i don't know how to do the free trick for nyt stories and i don't want to pay for it monthly. i'm disenfranchised.

scott seward, Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link

have you considered work at a sandwich shop? benefits are excellent

I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link

...He has met her parents.

J0rdan S., Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

scott the trick is to remove everything after '.html.' in the url, if you want to get slight fancier/faster you can copy the bookmarklet on this page http://marklets.com/NYTClean.aspx into yr bookmark bar and then click on it when the nyt firewall comes up

lag∞n, Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

yay, i did it. thanks. now i can stick it to the man. is the profile thing in today's paper?

scott seward, Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link

okay found that too.

scott seward, Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

weird how there's that single paragraph about median rents and median incomes in nyc as if this article is a sociologically relevant case study

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link

did one of you guys write this comment:

"OK, I see (at least) two things going on with this article's publication in the Times. First, there's a certain type of parent - and this type of parent devotedly reads the Times - who is desperate, desperate, desperate to "relate" to their kids and what's "going on in their lives". This article is for them. (It's also for the 50-somethings who talk about how "Girls"is seminal TV - wait, what?)

The other thing going on is the old-school Times used to have a huge group of young "creatives" to write about - journalists, authors, book editors/publishers, screenwriters, TV writers, advertising people - who used to really kind of matter in NYC. A Times profile of said person could "make" them; they could dine off it for years. Unfortunately for them, this class of people simply don't hold the influence they used to. But a lot of them now have kids who hoped to follow in their footsteps as "artists" and the parents are doing their best to see that it happens - by whatever means necessary. The result is an Emma Koenig Times profile.

But life's not so much old-boy network anymore and there's a big eclectic world out there which is much less easily impressed by so-called style-setters. I can't say it's been all good - I think the culture has been dumbed-down when there's no vibrant, creative New York on view. But if Ms. Koenig and the other hopelessly wannabe kids profiled in Style (and Books and Movies) over the past few years are the best NYC has to offer...well, bring on Wyoming!"

scott seward, Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link

did one of you guys write this comment:

"Ah,he trials & travails of a cute upper middle class white girl.

It's almost mind boggling how the upper classes are not only super fascinated with themselves, but are utterly unaware how no one else is. The worst is their complete lack of humility & consciousness of their good fortune.

They are beyond fortunate to have the college education, the connections, health, good looks, and parents who can afford $1200/month in rent for them (even if they nobly did not renovate their kitchen). But do they EVER acknowledge their privileged status? No. Instead, they whine about their lives in what is supposed to be a joking 'funny' fashion, and talk endlessly & emptily about sex, themselves & themselves.

I would SO much more prefer to see features on people who are overcoming actual struggles, real ones, or working to improve our planet-- and, if they do get help from their parents, who are modest about it and acknowledge it. And I don't mean simply being allowed to stay rent free in a home.

Let's have a series of articles on say, oh, a 24 year soldier who is devoting her life to our country, or a 24 year old who becomes a nun, or a 24 year old who volunteers for Peace Corps, or the 24 year old who just plain works hard in underpaid jobs & tries to support their family.

But I guess that's not about the white upper middle classes & it actually has substance & purpose, so it's not interesting to the white upper middle classes"

scott seward, Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:52 (eleven years ago) link

23 is the new 10.

scott seward, Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:52 (eleven years ago) link

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7c10wEfdy1qjm1zlo1_400.jpg
Fuck-buddy?

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

friend w/benefits is the term, a fuck buddy youre only buddies w/in fucking not life

lag∞n, Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

a fwiw girl its not the term or lack there of causing the problem

lag∞n, Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

have you ever thought about how many head/heartaches that are caused by the lack of an agreed term (universally, at least)? i'll bet you that it's a lot

you're all going to hello (Z S), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

also what exactly do you think the purpose of a label is

lag∞n, Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

"FRIEND"
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"GIRLFRIEND"

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

"RLFRIEND"

lag∞n, Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

"I just want to be on the same page" she said choking back tears

Will Chave (Hurting 2), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

head/heartaches

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

How about "we're seeing each other" or "we're dating"?

Will Chave (Hurting 2), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

it's kind of mind-boggling, I met a 17-year-old living in Taipei with his parents who started a summer educational program for students in rural Taiwan when he was 14 and is now running it with a staff of high schoolers and college kids; comparing him to VW's sister who just got a book deal by being sad and underemployed is kind of disheartening

keeping things contextual (DJP), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

assumed linear progression from 'friend' to 'girlfriend'

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

^the real problem

lag∞n, Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

it's kind of mind-boggling, I met a 17-year-old living in Taipei with his parents who started a summer educational program for students in rural Taiwan when he was 14 and is now running it with a staff of high schoolers and college kids; comparing him to VW's sister who just got a book deal by being sad and underemployed is kind of disheartening

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The first generation works their fingers to the bone making things, the next generation goes to college and innovates new ideas, the third generation... snowboards and takes improv classes. --jack donaghy

lag∞n, Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

http://toons.artie.com/alphabet/punctuation/arg-qmark-50-trans.gif

am0n, Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m670nmXDim1qjm1zlo1_400.jpg

kind of want some ukelele band to use this as their album cover so she could be their ray pettibon

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link

a nitpick, but I think self-destruct messages usually come with a stronger word than "caution."

Will Chave (Hurting 2), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

if i can be serious for a moment: her tumblr is so so so bad

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link

like i'm just actually looking at it now and it's terrible

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link

there's
NSFW

then there's
NSFL (Life)

Misc. Carnivora (Matt P), Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link


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