Jackin' House partisans, convince a skeptic

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yeah i guess tbf i play half my things at +8

the late great, Sunday, 29 July 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link

i'm not kidding that francois track about the morning light sounds to me like a nu skool breaks remix of a utah saints track

the late great, Sunday, 29 July 2012 22:21 (eleven years ago) link

ill phil gets the gun finger

the late great, Sunday, 29 July 2012 22:22 (eleven years ago) link

^^ give us an emoticon for this r|t|c

the late great, Sunday, 29 July 2012 22:22 (eleven years ago) link

mc sims gets five mics and first game on the xbox for the rest of the night

the late great, Sunday, 29 July 2012 22:25 (eleven years ago) link

The main reason I posted the Flanagan is I'm pretty sure the singer is Farah of "Kiss Me There" fame.

Tim F, Sunday, 29 July 2012 22:29 (eleven years ago) link

is the logo supposed to represent some sort of street food? like a big sausage in a taco-shell shaped piece of kebab bread?

the late great, Sunday, 29 July 2012 22:31 (eleven years ago) link

i mean the certified jackin one not the jack daniels one

the late great, Sunday, 29 July 2012 22:32 (eleven years ago) link

is it jackin?

the late great, Sunday, 29 July 2012 22:36 (eleven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/i9iPm.gif

r|t|c, Sunday, 29 July 2012 22:37 (eleven years ago) link

ghahahhah winner

the late great, Sunday, 29 July 2012 22:38 (eleven years ago) link

The main reason I posted the Flanagan is I'm pretty sure the singer is Farah of "Kiss Me There" fame.
Yeah I think that's her. I like her vocal I'm but not so mad about the rest of the tune.

The Rise of Owl-Bass (Mr Andy M), Sunday, 29 July 2012 22:49 (eleven years ago) link

I love those the owl bass on those two, Benny, those are much better examples. The part of 'You Want Me' I've had stuck in my head is that eerie UFO/ghost sound that comes in at the beginning of the track, before the bassline, that then becomes more high-pitched and bird-like around 2:23 in that youtube clip.

Astrochimp32, Monday, 30 July 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link

owl bass? isn't this just like 1990 bass?

the late great, Monday, 30 July 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link

oh god, please forget about this owl thing will you? It comes from an offhand comment i made on dissensus about 'Homeless' that Simon Reynolds then mentioned in his blog. Lets leave it at that...

Benny B, Monday, 30 July 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link

Haha it's a catchy term mate, don't be embarrassed.

The Rise of Owl-Bass (Mr Andy M), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

i think i see what's happening here now

this entire thread has been some sort of ilx tax write-off hasnt it

you crafty sods better paypal me my cut

r|t|c, Monday, 30 July 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

t/s owl bass vs sea punk

the late great, Monday, 30 July 2012 20:56 (eleven years ago) link

is it owl bass

the late great, Monday, 30 July 2012 20:56 (eleven years ago) link

owl'n'bass

Quickly, take hold of my hand, asshole! (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:27 (eleven years ago) link

finney did you listen

the late great, Friday, 3 August 2012 05:38 (eleven years ago) link

Intense mix v.

Tim F, Saturday, 4 August 2012 22:23 (eleven years ago) link

really? thank you. i'm most of the proud of the "champion sound" bit at the beginning of the first blake baxter thing.

so am i deliberately misinterpreting aspects of the sound ... or rather am i ignoring (specifics of geography aside) that separates, say, standard bobbins and what rob might call predigested fact-ulum from the more vibrant funky and jackin scenes ... or would you just say i'm shoehorning everything into a frankendance sort of mush?

i'm really too old to follow developments in all continents and scenes but i wish i had kept up more w grime and funky now

the late great, Saturday, 4 August 2012 22:39 (eleven years ago) link

i often get the same sense listening to some of this music as i do listening to herbert's "let's all make mistakes" and whatnot

the late great, Saturday, 4 August 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link

Well I don't think your mix has anything to do with "jackin house" within the meaning of this thread, unsurprisingly!

The thing with funky is - or was - less for me about socio-geographical borders than a certain kind of overriding logic of groove that might not be apparent on a track by track basis. Pulling, say, Champion or (at the absolute opposite end of the funky spectrum) DJ MA1's remix of "I'm Leaving" into orbit with techno and tech-house and dubstep and etc. makes even those tracks feel very different.

This is probably at least in part a result of the fact that funky could perhaps have been described as a certain perspective on house rather than a full-fledged individual genre. I guess that precariousness is maybe why I have always tried to insist on distinctions from a critical perspective; funky didn't have the obvious distinctiveness of uk garage, whereby if you dropped a 2-step tune into a different genre mix it usually still sounded like... a 2-step tune.

(so 'predigested fact-ulum' is in some cases a certain light or framing that may be there or may not be - although then of course some tracks/artists adopt that vibe irrevocably).

Importantly though, cutting across genre lines doesn't always = frankendance, it depends on the strength of the through-line constructed (Let's All Make Mistakes is a paramount example of this).

An article I wrote recently for Audimat was basically me trying to set out a theoretical apparatus for the above but it's in French :-/

Tim F, Saturday, 4 August 2012 23:15 (eleven years ago) link

right, so they just sound like particularly choppy or spacey broken beat or house tracks? i think a lot of sounds the way early "space disco" stuff like 90s idjuts, paper recordings, etc just sounds like tech house in that context (blending in w/ stuff like DiY)

personally i also think that's an argument for their strength

the late great, Saturday, 4 August 2012 23:18 (eleven years ago) link

i like the idea of fact music as a framing thing ... are FACT and BASS the same or different as superwords i wonder ;-)

the late great, Saturday, 4 August 2012 23:19 (eleven years ago) link

i should not post so fast

it reminds me of how early "space disco" tracks (90s idjuts, paper recordings, etc) just sounded like tech house at that time (blending in w/ stuff like DiY)

the late great, Saturday, 4 August 2012 23:22 (eleven years ago) link

makes even those tracks feel very different

what's interesting to me is that as a sheltered listener that's pretty much how those tracks "feel" to me, it doesn't sound like an incongruous transition or trick to me anymore than playing blake baxter with derrick may or eon with moodymann

the late great, Saturday, 4 August 2012 23:26 (eleven years ago) link

yeah that's kinda my point!

Tim F, Sunday, 5 August 2012 00:09 (eleven years ago) link

But have you heard many of the 'classic' funky sets?

Tim F, Sunday, 5 August 2012 00:10 (eleven years ago) link

no it's hard to know where to start w/ 1000 new posts and no handy clearance bin

the late great, Sunday, 5 August 2012 00:16 (eleven years ago) link

I will attend to this.

Tim F, Sunday, 5 August 2012 02:03 (eleven years ago) link

Attention Vahid:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/293y3a

2008.11.26 - RinseFM - Marcus Nasty ft. Rankin, Riskgo, Coldsteps, JME, Frisco, Sharky P, Versatile

Tim F, Sunday, 5 August 2012 09:45 (eleven years ago) link

thanks tim :-)

the late great, Monday, 6 August 2012 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

i like jme a lot

the late great, Monday, 6 August 2012 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

have
you
even
heard
the 2x marcus nasty jackin mixes linked on the summer jams thread?

r|t|c, Monday, 6 August 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah as per usual the best way by a mile to get into this stuff is through mixes.

Tim F, Monday, 6 August 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link

no only the commercial rinse one which went over my head (ps you all said it was not so good?)

the late great, Monday, 6 August 2012 22:35 (eleven years ago) link

Do you mean his 2010 Rinse CD? That's uk funky not jackin' house.

I thought it was very good but the absence of MCs means it's not as amazing as his best radio sets from 2008 - 2011 era.

Marcus now plays some jackin' house sets which is what r|t|c is referring to.

Tim F, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 04:18 (eleven years ago) link

Has Jack Daniels seen those graphics yet?

http://mashable.com/2012/07/22/jack-daniels-trademark-letter/

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 04:51 (eleven years ago) link

o i c

the late great, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:13 (eleven years ago) link

Are there any good Jackin mixes out there other than those two Marcus Nasty ones?

Astrochimp32, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

Just posted this to the favorite mixes thread: Superbad Bass Lounge #002 | A-level Results Mix | Mixed By: Nick Hannam

http://soundcloud.com/nick-hannam/hannam-superbad-mix

MikoMcha, Monday, 10 September 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link

Tune!

Dene Antony - A Feeling (Joe Barnes Bootleg)

MikoMcha, Monday, 10 September 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link

Okay how do I download this mix.

Tim F, Monday, 10 September 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link

right click?

just sayin, Monday, 10 September 2012 21:19 (eleven years ago) link

Excellent!

Is there an obvious way to create that link from the soundcloud page that I'm missing?

Tim F, Monday, 10 September 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link

view source, a do a find for

streamUrl":"http://media.soundcloud.com/stream/

then copy and paste everything inside the double quotes starting with http://media.soundcloud.com/stream/

in this case that's http://media.soundcloud.com/stream/iMHd65pdtNPy?stream_token=ktNzd

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just sayin, Monday, 10 September 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link

Cheers, thanks.

Tim F, Monday, 10 September 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link


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