rolling disgruntled shootings thread 2010

can't they make it law that if you want to have a gun you have to be in the nat'l guard or something?

then all the crazies who want guns would just join the national guard. and then they'd all meet. and they'd be ORGANIZED. brb gonna go write a novel.

that would hew a lot closer to the 2nd A's literal meaning

true

that's fine. it's not like joining the guard is getting a library card?

hell, we could give you a gov't issued gun if you're in the guard, w/ a serial # and a gps

when i hear the phrase "national guard" i reach for my kent_state.jpg

yeah remember when four dead in ohio was news

I used to work about 5 miinutes drive from the temple.

Never bumped into as much casual racism anywhere as living in Milwaukee, not in the deep south.

my friend from madison area (i think) is dating a girl from pakistan and for a second i had to reassure myself they weren't sikhs (?)

anyway when i was in bayfield everyone treated me like royalty

i understand bayfield is not totally representative of the state

My impression of Milwaukee was a couple of desperately poor ghettos surrounded by extremely conservative suburbs. Scott Walker got his start in Waukesha, which is pretty close to Oak Creek.

milwaukee was pretty crucial in russ feingold's defeat iirc

so, basically every city in america? xp

Except its especially bad there, almost all the suburbs used to be sundown towns.

And there parts of the North side that look third world, like Detroit only more concentrated.

yeah my friend from chicago said it starts to turn into rust belt over that way

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/witi-20110331-segregated-city,0,6920627.story

Rust belt surrounded by Maybury basically.

This is a city that has a contractual stipulation for teachers that they have to live in the city limits, otherwise virtually none of them would. One of the hardest drinking cities in the country too.

http://m.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/129187398.html

FB post from a friend of mine who who was at the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church during the shooting there four years ago. This is a guy who watched his friends being shot and killed:

Another shooting. Another CHURCH shooting! I am so damned tired of flashing back to my experience of the shooting at TVUUC!! I am so sick of reliving it in my daily thoughts and seeing it re-enacted every few weeks somewhere else in America. I am sick of hateful people having such easy access to guns. I am sick of our bought-out politicians kowtowing to the NRA and allowing hatemongers and psychos to arm themselves to the teeth (LEGALLY!!!) and then simply walking into innocent crowds (churches!!! musems!! movie theaters!!!) and gunning down innocent people. I am sick of talking heads justifying this easy murder as just a part of our constitutional rights, as though somehow the founding fathers thought buying an AR-36 assault rifle with a 100-bullet clip (capable of firing 100 rounds in 3 minutes) is an inherent human right, more important than human freedom itself (after all, these founding fathers are the same guys who considered African-Americans to be 3/4ths of a person and deserving of slavery, and women unworthy of voting). More than anything, I am sick of a right-wing culture that demonizes anyone who disagrees with their beliefs (see Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, Ann Coulter, Michael Savage, Michael Reagan and of course their manifesto-writing murderous protegee, Jim David Adkisson, the TVUUC gunman). And don't get me started on IGNORANCE! Is it any surprise that the guy who walked into the Sikh Temple today was a white male with a "9-11 tatoo" on his arm? Too bad he didn't live long enough for someone to tell him that Sikhs have NO CONNECTION WHATSOEVER to Islam, let alone the fringe element of Islam that was responsible for 9-11. I was a religious educator in my previous life. That is what I was doing the day Jim David Adkisson walked into my church and opened fire on a childrens' play during a Sunday worship service. And I guarantee you, the children in my programs at TVUUC know far more about Sikh's than this asshole did. Why? Because WE CARE ABOUT OTHER FAITHS, that's why@!!
Goddam this!! I am so sick of this!

that guy has my vote for president

there is an important aspect to distinguishing sikhs from muslims in the news that is higher than muslims would be okay

http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/shooter-identified-as-wade-michael-page-856cn6q-165115836.html

http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/shooter-described-as-white-army-vet-in-his-40s-ai6ck9q-165092276.html

Frontman of white power band End Apathy, apparently.

http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/08/06/bulletin-alleged-sikh-temple-shooter-member-of-neo-nazi-group/

Well, get ready for another week's worth of stories on white supremacists and white-power music. Haven't had that since the Prussian Blue boomlet of '05.

just fyi a dedicated thread for this has popped up

Alleged Sikh Temple Shooter Former Member of Skinhead Band

get ready for black helicopters over idaho!!!

where's that one thread ...

just fyi a dedicated thread for this has popped up

Alleged Sikh Temple Shooter Former Member of Skinhead Band

― keeping things contextual (DJP), Monday, August 6, 2012 10:22 AM

on I Love Music

yeah I hadn't actually noticed that when I posted the link

Seeking a person of interest. Some guy with a similar tattoo there at the scene among the people waiting outside after it happened.

there is an important aspect to distinguishing sikhs from muslims in the news that is higher than muslims would be okay

Yeah, for sure. Sometimes I despair of taking that as a goal, but I shouldn't. Btw Steve ins keep interviewed someone from the Sikh legal defense fund on morning edition and asked if Sikhs were often confused with Muslims and the dude was like, "yes we're sometimess confused with our Muslim brothers and sisters" and I got a little teary

i think it's important for people in general to understand the variations among people and things like this, sad as they are, prick up the collective ears a bit.

hopefully fred phelps will go picket somewhere else

rewatched Spike Lee's doc 4 Little Girls about the '63 Birmningham church bombing Saturday night. Not THAT different a country.

When he came to the list of victims names, Edwards hesitated: he said that he was afraid of pronouncing them incorrectly: “I don’t know if I would be able to—unless someone could come up and assist me from the Sikh community.” Someone did. It was a small detail, but one that showed humility and respect—no one’s name ought to be mangled in those circumstances. Here are the names:

Prakash Singh, who was thirty-nine; Sita Singh, forty-one; Ranjit Singh, forty-nine; Satwant Singh Kaleka, sixty-five; Suveg Singh, eighty-four; and Paramjit Kaur, who was forty-one, and the only woman killed.

Kaleka was the president of the temple. His son Amar Deep Kaleka told a Wisconsin television station that F.B.I. agents had told him that, judging from the trails of blood in the temple and where the bodies were, his father had most likely engaged in a physical confrontation with Page in the lobby—“a blood struggle”—and had likely slowed him down, giving others time to hide. (Eight women were keeping quiet in a pantry.) “The F.B.I. told me, they came up and shook my hand a number of times and put their arms around me and said, ‘You know, your father was a hero.’”

Read more http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/closeread/2012/08/the-man-with-the-911-tattoo.html#ixzz22nsfapY2

no one killed but a mosque burning in Joplin, MO

http://www.bradenton.com/2012/08/06/4146117/joplin-mosque-razed-in-fire-2nd.html

oh, cool

@dallasnews: There are reports of a mass shooting in College Station. Update to come.

god fucking dammit I have a former student there right now

Shooter in custody:

http://www.kbtx.com/home/headlines/Shooting-in-Progress-Near-Welborn-and-Fidelity-Streets-in-College-Station-166000226.html

is this on campus?

xp nm, reading Ned's link

wtf is going on

FFS PEOPLE PEOPLE WHY ARE WE FIGHTING SO SICK OF THIS BS

this shit barely cracked the news

17-Year-Old Student Shot At Perry Hall High School; Suspect In Custody; Parents Talk To WJZ About Facebook Threat

http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2012/08/27/shooting-reported-in-perry-hall-high-schools-cafeteria/

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XHk7FdGFU20/UByKptfIZBI/AAAAAAAANP4/To8t7UVGfcw/s1600/welcome_back_to_school.jpg

One commenter over at the Perry Hall Patch claims that the shooter was 15-year-old Bobby Gladden. This has NOT been verified by police.

If he is indeed the shooter, however, one could certainly see this coming a mile away.

His most recent Facebook update from 5 hours ago reads:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9fuk2cmyG1rp83hto1_500.png