The German language

Yay!

Toll!

das Sonnensystem

i refereed to mars curiosity as mars neugir throughout, but nobody laughed

ausgezeichnet

can anybody point me to a half decent resource on "die Fälle" which isn't just tables & metalanguage, and would hopefully be example sentences of things people actually say in pos, neg & Q sentences?

cough http://www.sendspace.com/file/hoyxrb

cough cough http://www.sendspace.com/file/6vxew5

Umgebung = best German word?

pp33-50 in the first one

ctrl-f nom, acc, dat, gen in the second one

Ich habe eine meerschweinschen in die umgebung gegessen

I was disappointed when I realised you pronounce it umGEbung not UMgebung

thanks caek - that looks to make more sense than most!

the schaum examples are particularly good, i think

and don't worry about genitive until you know you need to

if you're british (this doesn't work for american english), the classic example is writing a letter:

"i write a letter"

i = subject, i.e. nominative

a letter = direct object, i.e. accusative

now i add the recipient of the letter:

"i write a letter to my friend"

"my friend" = indirect object, i.e. dative

two groups of words i am struggling with at the momen

vorschlagen - suggest
vermuten - assume
verinbaren - stipulate

die Ausrede - excuse, pretext
die Ausnahme - exception
ausreden - dissuade
angeben - declare
der Angeber - showoff
abreden - stipulate

also

eigen - own (e.g. at your own risk)
einzig - only (e.g. the only people)
einig - a few

vereinbaren, verabreden. es herrscht unmut im klassenzimmer.

caek, where are those definitions from? Langenscheidt (emphasis on the last syllable)? They are not good, and very oversimplified. Generally speaking, German-English dictionaries where Germans have the final editorial say SUCK -- German has a much smaller usable vocabulary set than English, and as a result, they present the English words as if they were simple direct cognates much more often than is usable in reality. German words do a lot of heavy lifting, and most of the verbs you listed have a lot of different meanings, including ones more closely related to the noun forms.

Basically, I think you're better off with a German learner's dictionary or school dictionary than any given German-English dictionary once you've got a year or two under your belt.

mittwoch

my favorite german sentence

ich habe ein audi

not sure about the conjugations in that one, i did manage four years but it was half a lifetime ago

The conjugation is correct. The pronunciation is "eech bean ayn oarschloch."

du bist ein affe

i think mostly get what those words mean. the one-word definitions there are my own, for this thread. but yeah i should probably graduate to a D-D dictionary.

http://megacycles.tumblr.com/post/13800349009/schones-foto

what is the plural of Glas, Glassen oder Glaese?

Ich habe zwei Glassen Wein getrunken, wer werden mit mir Deutsch sprechen?

bitte, ich möchte gern ein Glas Bier.

und auch Wurst für meine Schlange.

:D

you want a wurst for your schlong?

ilx history:

I got an A in German GCSE but can now remember nothing at all of the language except for one poem I wrote when we had to write a poem. It went like this:

Ich habe eine Schlange
Meine Schlange hast viel Durst
Er geht in zum Kafe
Er hat Getranke und eine Wurst

I may not have remembered the proper grammar.

― Tom, Monday, August 20, 2001 8:00 PM (11 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

schlong = schlange....... i never made that connection.

what is the plural of Glas, Glassen oder Glaese?

neither. when ordering drinks, it's glas ("zwei glas bier"), for all other purposes it's gläser.

haha, E you will like this: Ted has been dubbed in bayerisch dialect rather than german for release here.

lol, nice. Boston accents = Barvarian. I like it.

in the spot where they usually warn you it has subtitles (which people don't like here), they warn you that ted is in bayerisch

http://www.munig.com/kino/kinoprogramm.html?suche_tag=2012-09-07&suche_zeit=&suche_genre=&suche_art=kino&x=8&y=1&options=ov

Bayerischer Dialekt

How funny! It's been a long time since I was there so I don't really remember much about the dialect. How is it viewed over there?

I took a German class when I lived in London and I remember the teacher there telling me that the accent in the area my dad comes from and where my fam still lives (Rheinland Pfalz) is the worst in Germany and considered to be a farmers accent and is looked down upon. He likened it to a really thick US Southern accent.

i get the impression it's not really looked down on because bavaria is historically so rich, but i'm not sure tbh. as an accent, it sounds pretty idiotic to me. when people are speaking full on bayerisch i can't understand any of it.

you should check out small town murder songs by the way. it's not a great film, but it's only 75min. lots of canadian plattdeutsch. i didn't know about that going in, so all the way through i was like, 'what is this crazy language and why do i feel like i understand it?'

"canadian plattdeutsch"

The language (or groups of dialects of Low German) is spoken by over 300,000 Mennonites (Russian Mennonites), most notably in the Latin American countries of Brazil, Mexico, Bolivia, Paraguay, Peru, Uruguay,[2] Honduras, Belize, and Argentina, as well as in the United States and Canada (particularly Manitoba and Saskatchewan).

I had no idea about any of this! So weird. Will check out.

"For example, Homer Groening, the father of Matt Groening (creator of The Simpsons), spoke Plautdietsch as a child in Saskatchewan in the 1920s, but his son Matt never learned the language."

reygadas' last film silent light is set among the mennonites in mexico & mostly in low german dialect

Yes, just saw that too. That is so weird. I'm into this though. Going to see if I can find these online.

I remember the teacher there telling me that the accent in the area my dad comes from and where my fam still lives (Rheinland Pfalz) is the worst in Germany and considered to be a farmers accent and is looked down upon.

Huh, Interesting! It is sort of funny accent. My cousin's is so so thick. I actually love listening to him and his friends talk but it can be tough for me to understand sometimes if they're speaking really fast and using slang on top of the dialect.

on the last day of my course we did a "spot the accent" exercise. the only ones anyone could get was schwäbisch

lol i was under the impression that the Saxon dialect is the one German accent that people in Germany make fun of.

avoid:
01 fränkisch
02 sächsisch
03 pfälzisch

instead learn to speak in these cool dialects:
01 plattdeutsch
02 kölsch
03 münchnerisch

03 pfälzisch

>:O

03 münchnerisch

ugh no

Zugzwang

Sächsisch drives Austrian women wild, apparently.