What is the nadir of human popular culture?

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Ally -- which fashion magazine has Colleen on the cover this month? She looked really odd - they must have really airbrushed or photoshopped her face cause she looked like an alien.

Nicole, Monday, 11 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I saw Loft Story when I was in France and it was exactly like Big Brother (i.e. sexless) EXCEPT for one vital thing. It had proper French Intellectuals coming on afterwards to RANT about the dreadful things the show was doing to French culture. "C'est un bordello! Ils sont prostitue par le media!" (nb: pardon my awful French but you get the gist). This contest of pomp was way more entertaining than "Jean- Edouard" dressing up as "un lapin" to complete le task.

Tom, Monday, 11 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Nah, Jerry Springer's talk show is not the worst thing he's done. I mean, watching strange Americans shout at each other can be pretty entertaining if the only alternative is The Weakest Link. No, his real crime is presenting that awful Millionaire rip-off Greed. It manages to combine the possibility of winning vast sums with a complete lack of any tension owing to its weird team format. And it goes on forever.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Monday, 11 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Nicole: That's Mademoiselle. I have it sitting on my table, which is why Colleen popped into my head. She's dreadful. Have you seen the new issue of Elle with Mariah on the cover? Talk about looking TORN UP...she could've used some Photoshopping.

Tom: You've completely ruined my illusion of French tv, you know.

Ally, Monday, 11 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I saw Elle yesterday and I wondered why the editor hasn't been fired - - how could they go to press with a cover that bad? The makeup and hair are so so terrible.

Re: Greed. It's been cancelled in the States, so perhaps your version soon will be as well.

Nicole, Monday, 11 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

She just looks so....awful and horrible and harsh and beaten.

I recommend now that Mariah is the nadir of pop culture.

Ally, Monday, 11 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Good call, esp. when her movie comes out.

Nicole, Monday, 11 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

And can I use this opportunity to say that I used to know a chap called Nadir? I'm not making this up, I always felt awful for him, like, gee, guess your parents musta wanted you real bad.

Ally, Monday, 11 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

OK, right, on the news (UK only? maybe?), when they're interviewing some semi- nobody, they set up the clip by first showing him/her walking PAST the camera in the most EXTREMELY STUPID WAY. It's like
(a) staged after the interview ie faked so an affront to the whole ethos of news haha
(b) staged BADLY, since semi-nobody is not an actor/professional, so looks like a cretinous wooden robot trying to hard to be "ordinary and not on/aware of camera"
(c) completely silly, since if NOT staged, semi-nobody would of course walk TOWARDS the camera, not past it. Even Noddy Shots get not my goat as badly as this wack convention.

mark s, Monday, 11 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

You're ACTUALLY bitching about Grease? Oh, there are SO many bigger fish to fry.

Larry King. Out of This World (a syndicated sitcom that makes Small Wonder look like Alan Moore's Watchmen - starring Joe Alasky!!). Pat Boone's heavy metal album. Crocodile Dundee III (whatever the hell the sub-title was). The Macarena (speaking of wedding blights). Dennis Rodman. John Carpenter's Vampires. Barney. Jesse "The Body" Ventura as a US Governor AND commentator for the XFL. Milli Vanilli. Geri Halliwell's version of "It's Raining Men". Michael Stipe "announcing" that he's gay. Vanilla Ice as a nu-metal kingpin. Courtney Love, whenever she opens her mouth outside of a movie set. Marlon Brando talking about those gosh-darn pesky Jews. Carl Lewis "singing" the national anthem. Music journalists going on MTV to declare what makes a "rock star" and a "player" and a "baller" and a "playa hater". Hell - music journalists on television in toto.

Ooooo! MTV making TV shows about itself!

I'm sorry - what was the question?

PS - Here's an entry from X-Entertainment.com - the Corey Haim Video Diary. Funny stuff.

David Raposa, Monday, 11 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

What about Grease 2?

BrianR, Monday, 11 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The nadir of pop music was Fat Les. The nadir of popular culture are ALL THOSE FUCKING GARDENING AND DIY SHOWS THAT ARE ON ALL THE FUCKING TIME AND WON'T GO AWAY! AAAAAARGH!

DG, Monday, 11 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Everyone's missing the obvious here: "College Girls Gone Wild!"

Not because it's sexist and demeaning towards women, but because the entire concept of selling these videos is predicated on the assumption that people are desperate to buy a videotape that contains nothing but an hour of WOMEN PULLING UP THEIR SHIRTS! How SCANDALOUS! Like you can't see that on Cinemax (aka Skin- emax) or Showtime (aka Ho-time) after 11 PM every night. Or hell, get even raunchier stuff on pay-per-view. Or from the video store.

It's completely asinine, although not as asinine as the extreme wrestling/topless women with awful implants videos they hawk REALLY late at night...

Dan Perry, Monday, 11 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Let's see - Indecent Proposal was pretty bad; the Olympic Game sucks so bad; JOhn gray's "literary" success bites my balls in places I didn't even know I had balls, and Marlboro pulling Marlboro 16 mgs from Australian shelves, and trying to persuade me that 12mg were standard reds now - fuck, the anger.

Geoff, Tuesday, 12 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'm amazed that no-one's actually mentioned "Titanic" yet. NOTHING is worse than titanic. NOTHING, right? x0x0

Norman Fay, Tuesday, 12 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

True, even Roman 'sporting' events and the Nuremberg Rally were outdone by the Titanic. And Grease. Sort of.

ms, Tuesday, 12 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Hey Maryann, maybe they meant ancient Grease!

duane z., Tuesday, 12 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"[Such and such] bites my balls in places I didn't even know I had balls" has got to be the best line ever.

Ally, Tuesday, 12 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

SOme of you are on the right track but some of you are confusing useless programming with trash-beauty. (Grease 2)

-- Mike Hanley, Tuesday, 12 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"Mystery weekends"

tarden, Tuesday, 12 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

My roommate ordered College Girls Gone Wild. So I guess you could say that 69 4th Ave. has contributed materially to the fall of western civilization. We watched it the other night and yes - it's nothing but girls pulling up their shirts in New Orleans. It's kind of the whole history of entertainment exploitation encapsulated into the crudest form imaginable. CGGW trivia bit: when you order the tape, they apparently ask you if you'd like *2* volumes for just $10 more - Lydia said yes - so the package comes, it's 1 videotape, but on the side it says "2 volume set"....

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 12 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Dude, the words "2 Volume Set" are clearly worth $10, hello.

I always wanted to be in that video to embarass my family, but I'm not a college coed so I'm being unfairly discriminated against.

Ally, Tuesday, 12 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"I.M. Me."

thank you all for playing.

maura, Tuesday, 12 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

ANOTHER Brittany? Oh, shit. (If you squint, she sorta looks like Charlotte Church. Don't know if that's a good thing.)

As far as "Girls Gone Wild" - I saw this newspiece on the BurlyBear site that exposed the TRUTH behind this series. When the more level-headed female spring- breakees decline such an enticing offer, the filmmakers just bring in some adult-film stars to do the deeds. Of course, it seems that drunk women are often just as willing to shake their non-wire-bound money makers.

So, yeah, Ally - you CAN be in these videos, without having to pay any tuition or fees! Oh, glorious day! (I'm gonna get me some of those chicken cutlets / bra inserts & run down to Daytona Beach RIGHT NOW! Penis be damned. Woo!)

Side-bar: Would the nadir of canine popular culture be the Dogs Playing Poker portrait, or that gawd-awful interpretation of Jingle Bells?

David Raposa, Tuesday, 12 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Okay, Maura wins. Cloyingly awful teen pop stars are worse than being charged to see something you can see for free at any decent party.

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 12 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I like Grease, don't have a problem with that. From my POV there are many, many awful pop culture things. Ones which seem to impinge on me a lot right now:

1. rubbish 'Reality TV' (?) - it seems to be on every night. I'd be ashamed to watch that.

2. The British tabloid press - always awful (in my lifetimes, at least) and awful still; among the worst public influences on British politics and culture.

3. All those crappy records that people on ILM - some of whom I consider delightful people - are always going on about.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 12 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Brittney's is just a novelty record, no more evil than 'Hello, this is Joni'. The real cultural criminal is hidden further down the piece: "David Silver, director of the Resource Center for Cyberculture Studies at the University of Washington, likens abbreviated instant messaging talk to slang derived from hip-hop music."

mark s, Tuesday, 12 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Is it the same David Silver from 90210? That's what I want to know.

Nicole, Tuesday, 12 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The resource centre for Cyberculture Studies? That su - OH NO! POS!

Tom, Tuesday, 12 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

(Tom's incoherent cry left many of them completely pinefoxed.)

mark s, Tuesday, 12 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Pinefox is spot on with the first two.

I consider the issue of the (then still Daily) Mirror for Monday 24th June 1996, which attempted to turn the England-Germany Euro 96 semi- final into a replay of the Second World War, to be the nadir of England per se, the lowest point in its stupid tendency to draw bridges, define itself by what it is not, fight battles that finished decades ago, etc., etc. Everyone involved should be (and indeed many, I think, now are) ashamed of themselves.

Also the time last year when the Sunday Mirror attacked England followers for holding a warlike, combative mentality while in the same paper referring to the England team as "Our Boys" and Germany as "the old enemy". Indeed, they got noted right-wing hack Quentin Letts to rant on about England "thugs" thinking in terms of "The Great Escape" while alluding to that very film in the headline of their report of the match. Hold me back.

Robin Carmody, Tuesday, 12 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

http://au.music.yahoo.com/music/20010613/undercovernews/992409530- 1678729228.html Now this is worrying; as is my lack of html.

Geoff, Wednesday, 13 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Jimmy Buffett.

Michael Daddino, Thursday, 14 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

three weeks pass...
This new American show, 'Temptation Island' I think it's called. I've never seen it, but the concept alone is enough to make me throw up. Couples are carted off to some island, separated and encouraged to be unfaithful to their partners for the nation's entertainment. How wonderful.

Ally C, Saturday, 7 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

This week's hi-point - 2 (TWO) (in a row) "hot" new shows 1st time ever on NZ TV last night - "Something for the Weekend" & "Yanky Panky". I won't bother describing them 'cause most of yez here are British & will already be familiar w/ them from wayback but...holy smokin' CRAP. They were both grossly GROSS without even ever being funny or interesting or ANYTHING.

duane, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Dude, I thought that it's all been up since about mid-weimar or so.

Sterling Clover, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

My sister is totally addicted to Temptation Island. I daren't watch, as we are alike in obsessive bents, culture-wise. It is certainly better than Survivor (UK version). But it is no Big Brother (UK version). One couple was kicked off TE because it transpired they ha lied abt a. their age, b. being married, and c. having kids SITTING AT HOME WATCHING THEIR MUM AND DAD COP OFF WITH OTHER PRIME-TIME TANNING-PARLOUR SLUTZ. The producers sat them down and gave them a proper moral talking to. It was PRICELESS. As you can see, I already lied abt not watching it. My name is mark s and I am an Evil-TV-aholic.

mark s, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

No, it is Rosie O'Donnel being nominated for a Tony. Or a bad Mel Brooks film getting so much buzz they can sell 170 dollar tickets . Or Lea Thompson as Sally Bowles in Cabaret. Fuck:any broadway show . Suessical the Musical, Annie Get Your Gun with Reba MacIntyre. What happened , Broadway was supposed to be a shining beacon for all of us in the hinterlands . Now it just seems like cheap stunts .

anthony, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

thirteen years pass...

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