Fugazi vs. Fugazi Fans

i think coming from the first wave of hardcore where beating people up at shows was totally part of the scene and realizing that it drove away many of the really interesting people, fugazi is trying to say that they don't want to be part of that and have that as an element in what they do.

it may seem like the move of a control freak, but i appreciate it. (speaking as someone who's bored of fighting at shows and yet still enjoys their music... )

m.

I was there. You are wrong.

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m.

I know a guy who considered naming his band Fugazi Osborne Against Me First and the Gimmie Gimmies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M1A43lP9Vw

Why u don't respond 2 your fans?
Memphis7414 5 days ago

Jaysus

thank u to this thread for reminding me to listen to fugazi

I DON'T WANNA BE DEFEATED I DON'T WANNA BE DEFEATED I DON'T WANNA BE DEFEATED I DON'T WANNA BE DEFEATED

Fugazi sucks. It is for middle class kids with no real upbringing in rock and roll, a product of a tuneless middle class white culture.

They have no resonance with the real originators of rock and soul music. Too bad they're too arrogant to admit it.

interesting

as a counterpoint can I suggest the video three posts above

Mount Cleaners never fugazi

'i had a traditional rock and roll upbringing, you know, my parents taught me that that kind of tunelessness was just wrong.'

um, hi (runs)
― Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Monday, June 7, 2004 11:24 PM

ask Mount Cleaners

They have no resonance with the real originators of rock and soul music.

Well, of course not, they are long dead.

But you're right, I am middle class and had no real upbringing in real rock 'n' roll. Instead I listened to Northern Soul. Ah well.

I can't wait for the Animal Collective vs Animal Collective fans thread in a few years time.

mount cleaners do you still have a talking horse and will you sell him

i heard a ska cover of waiting room the other day. it was ok but if the record store had it on sale, i wouldn't pick it up pick it up pick it up.

mount cleaners why do u hate fugazi

They have no resonance with the real originators of rock and soul music, originators like Mount Cleaners.

i wonder what a real upbringing in rock and roll looks like

http://freespace.virgin.net/hotrockin.fuller/images/band4.jpg

that is the ugliest picture of Jawbox I've ever seen

lol

god so red medicine is such a fantastic record

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/film/2013/04/26/director-jeff-nichols-on-fugazi-southern-literature-and-mud/

new Matthew M. movie

WCP: There’s a question I’ve been dying to ask you: As a huge Fugazi fan, I couldn’t help but notice the Fugazi T-shirt that Neckbone wears in the beginning. What’s the story behind that?

JN: [laughs] That was actually written in the script! I was a huge fan of Fugazi growing up and I was thinking a lot about certain things in my life from the time period that I was Ellis’ age. My brother was in a punk rock band in Little Rock, and there was a pretty good punk rock scene in Little Rock, so I was listening to a lot of Jawbreaker and Fugazi and everything else. Working on this script reminded me of that time and when I was building my characters, the character of Galen, Neck’s uncle (Michael Shannon) was written as this sort of washed-up punk rocker. If you look through his house, you’ll see a bunch of flyers and things from Little Rock punk shows.

There's more in the link re the filmmakers getting in touch with Dischord and how they never made or authorized Fugazi t-shirts, etc

Heh. I made my own Fugazi t-shirt when I was in high school. Just sharpie on a while t, reading "this is not a fugazi t-shirt". Some jocks made fun of me for it and I was kinda just like "yeah, you guys are probably right."

They sold the "This is Not a Fugazi T-Shirt" t-shirts at Smash Records on M Street in Georgetown. I wouldn't have thought the Dischord people were that happy about it, but who knows. Smash was way more, like, Oi-focused and Crass patches and stuff, which was pretty far removed from the world I was into then. They always seemed like they might mock, like, Positive Force and stuff.

LOL Smash. I never went there, but my best friend from 9th grade algebra had a Smash shopping list written on his binder. The list was like: bomber jacket, exploited patch, anarchy earring, 20-hole doc martens. So yeah, it was probably pretty oi.

literally the first i ever heard of fugazi in the early 90s was when i started buying rock mags and there'd be those big 2-page ads for some company that sells band shirts with dozens of little rectangular pictures of shirts for different popular/semi-popular bands and "this is not a fugazi t-shirt" always stuck out because i was like huh what's with the cryptic t-shirt for a band i've never heard of.

iirc this would even be in bullshit like Hit Parader and Circus when i briefly bought those for a while in addition to more respectable rags

Rockabilia!

fuckin' "in addition to". as if that wasn't before you were buying "more respectable rgs"

smash carried a wide range of weird goth shit and re/search books in addition to the manic panic.

that this is not a fugazi shirt was the ugliest fucking thing. white shirt with like, oceany blue lettering?

lol jeez how's life sorry if that seemed like conspicuous fronting. i just mean i'm pretty sure i started picking up rolling stone etc. around the same time or before that.

i understand why some people don't like Fugazi, i assume they understand why i think they suck

Hit Parader type mags had a really entertaining identify crisis in that era, where they'd be keeping up with Pearl Jam and Green Day while continuing to regularly interview Enuff Z'nuff.

smash carried a wide range of weird goth shit and re/search books in addition to the manic panic.

that this is not a fugazi shirt was the ugliest fucking thing. white shirt with like, oceany blue lettering?

i remember Commander Salamander being the more goth-friendly spot, but Smash definitely had, like, leather bustiers for a minute.

I think the oceany blue lettering was an attempt to approximate the Repeater cover art. I had that shirt, but I don't know what happened to it! I stopped wearing it after a cooler punk than I was like "Ian thinks that shirt is dumb. I know a guy who knows him."

lol jeez how's life sorry if that seemed like conspicuous fronting. i just mean i'm pretty sure i started picking up rolling stone etc. around the same time or before that.

― some dude, Friday, April 26, 2013 9:55 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sorry, i was drunk last night and basically being a jerk all over town. however, when you said "more respectable rags", i had this image of little some dude stepping out of Wawa with a Hit Parader in one hand and Art Forum in the other or something.

I stopped wearing it after a cooler punk than I was like "Ian thinks that shirt is dumb. I know a guy who knows him."

In their 1993(?) Spin interview, Guy says something like, "I thought it was cool that someone just went and made that shirt."

1991

http://books.google.com/books?id=b4qmcLhXEsYC&lpg=PA48&dq=guy%20picciotto&pg=PA48#v=onepage&q=guy%20picciotto&f=false

I wonder how many scenes in the movie Mud you see the kid wearing the shirt?

was gonna post a picture of the not-fugazi shirt but found this instead:

http://d3na4zxidw1hr4.cloudfront.net/site_media/uploads/images/post/f/fugazi/this-is-not-a-wugazi-tshirt_design_png_250x280_q85.jpg

http://ben-costello.com/images/tinafts.jpg

seriously tho whoever did the graphic design for this shirt should go to jail

i remember Commander Salamander being the more goth-friendly spot, but Smash definitely had, like, leather bustiers for a minute.
― Walter Galt, Saturday, April 27, 2013 4:21 AM

http://www.wtop.com/emedia/wtop/24/2435/243553.jpg

fugazi sucks

Do I have to come over there?

I was just listening to them! They do not suck.

if every Fugazi song was an instrumental and there was no political baggage at all they would still be awesome.