Creedence Clearwater Revival vs the Grateful Dead vs the Band

CCR is the greatest American rock n roll band

John Fogerty is the greatest American rock n roll singer

astonishing rhythm section too

The Band is the group where I like their sound and I like the individual players best.

love CCR but if this is based on singers the band wins by a large degree

And the singing.

xp

haha

CCR is the best. the band is wonderful. the dead have some epic albums and at their peak they were amazing. i wonder how the dead would be considered if they didn't have that whole image associated with them, which i think overshadows their genuine skills and talent, which is the case with virtually any jammy band with any merit.

basically: CCR >>>> the band >>>>>the dead

TS: Danko vs. Manuel vs. Levon

Omar otm

Love Creedence--not just their music, but also their story, the way they managed to be incredibly smart and of-the-moment while being perceived by many as the "Down on the Corner" band that made feel-good hit singles. I like a number of Grateful Dead songs a lot, although I'm basically a casual fan. The Band are a huge blind spot for me.

CCR - easy

i hate to do the kneejerk thing but i have to vote creedence. i never really got into the band and i don't think last waltz is that great. much respect for the band, but the pop fan in me prefers the punch ccr packs.

i meant to write the dead in that last sentence.

only one of these bands has ramble tamble

and only one has Doug Clifford

Want to vote for The Band. I never got into CCR beyond their singles/best of comps. Where does one start w/them regarding full-lenghts & deep cuts?

"Ramble Tamble" is, for me, their greatest song, which is saying a lot. I wouldn't be surprised if there are a fair number of people who love them from the radio and/or Chronicle who don't know it. I may have heard it on the classic-rock station once or twice in my life.

(Wrote that before Darin posted--wasn't a specific response to him.)

but it is the answer
find cosmo's factory, put that shit on and boogie

Creedence Clearwater Revival every gd time

― Gurdas Mane (crüt), Thursday, August 9, 2012 9:24 PM (Yesterday)

on the real, though, the polls of 3 tenuously connected bands, this shit is terrible, i hope this is the last one.

it's called curating, i thought you were supposed to be a 90s nerd

I can't choogle to The Band or The Dead.

As crut says, Creedence Clearwater Revival every gd time

Yeah, but "Up on Cripple Creek" is like deep funk so it's not like all is lost.

it's called curating, i thought you were supposed to be a 90s nerd

― j., Friday, August 10, 2012 12:44 AM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark

you're just, like, typing words here, they don't actually mean anything, right

the Dead in 72 sound like the Band

"Sugar Magnolia" can choogle

voted CCR of course

CCR. No brainer. Ramble Tamble & Fortunate Son vs most other bands catalogues. CCR vs Neil Young. Now there's a tough call...

most everybody in this thread otm. good work, people.

you're just, like, typing words here, they don't actually mean anything, right

i can't even tell the difference anymore

The Dead. The Band had a few good songs. Creedence is undeniably classic. But classic like the national anthem or the happy birthday song or something. I don't necessarily need to hear it anymore. I tried to get into their albums hoping to be surprised but it was just the hits I've heard on the radio since birth plus some not very good covers and assorted filler.

I never knew Doug Clifford made a solo album in 1972. Just found it online and it's...interesting. Kind of like Tom Fogerty's solo stuff. There's a definite CCR undercurrent to it, but it goes off in wild directions.

I voted Creedence because they were astonishingly consistent - even during the early Golliwogs days - up to (but not really including) their last album. But even that last album - Mardi Gras - suffered only because John Fogerty was persuaded to let the others write. His stuff was still amazing. They also get nods for holding up really well, despite the fact that many considered them only a step above the Monkees (who were also great at the time.)

The Grateful Dead were the most wasteful band in rock and roll - about an album's worth of good material, in my opinion. They don't hold up well.

The Band's first two albums were probably better than any of CCR's albums, but they lose for the steep fall-off in quality after that.

CCR gets bonus points (not that they need any) for being a band pretty much carried entirely by one major figure / songwriter. The Band had several and the Grateful Dead barely had songs, and they still had about 15 "songwriters." That Fogerty could keep up with his peers (songwise) all by his lonesome self is amazing. Few songwriters of any era managed that level of prolificness and quality without a foil of some sort.

I listen to the Grateful dead a lot more than either of the others but they were all great in '68-70 weren't they?
Love Bayou Country & S/t(2nd), actually first 5 CCR come to thinkof things & probably MFBP too.
but overall I do listen to GD much more than the others.

Is there anything in the band's catalog correlates to a bitchin china cat>rider?

well, american beauty/workingman's dead owe a p large (and iirc acknowledged) debt to the band's first two recs

and the band's disco funk version of mystery train totally anticipates the dead's dancing in the street workouts

pretty sure the dead were doing 'dancing' in '71/'72? i feel like they stop doing it for a couple years and then it gets revived in that arrangement that shows up on 'terrapin'. i don't know, though. anyway my suggested three tenuously connected bands were better.

we should always have a grateful dead poll going, anyway

yeah, the dead were doing dancing in the sixties as a looooong psych freak work out (there's an amazing version on Dick's Picks #8 from 1970). They dropped it from the set list for a while, and when they took it up again post-1975 it had become MUCH more disco.

i mean obv plenty of mid-seventies rock bands w/ a fondness for cocaine went disco, but it's always seemed to me that the dead took an awful lot of cues from the band (not that they were alone in that, either)

CCR had such a great run over a short space of time and I've never heard any Band albums past the first two but I recently watched the 'Classic Albums' episode on the s/t and I came around to thinking that it really is one of the 20 or so best records ever, just a towering achievement of songwriting and musical interplay. So I think I'm voting The Band.

As for the Dead, I've tried to get into them, on paper they should be right up my street but nothing I've heard really clicks with me - I don't hate them by any means, I'm just indifferent.

All 3 have a lot going for them, but for me it's The Band >> CCR >>>> The Dead.
And as I've said on other threads, my love for The Band is mainly based on the first 2 albums but y'know, it's a hell of a first 2 albums.

CCR choogled. No other band, ever, choogled. Voted CCR.

i have to admit i've never understood 'choogling', it sounds like something thomas the tank engine would do

Thomas he's the cheeky one
James is vain but lots of fun
Percy pulls the mail on time
Gordon choogles down the line

they're the really useful CCRew

speaking of trains though, Casey Jones kinda choogles.

Nope

Choogleometer says: NO

If i knew nothing about the Band while watching the Last Waltz, i'd assume somebody would want to pummel the guy after the concert.

I'm just not that into the vocals on the Band.

softspool otm. Stage Fright gets unfairly maligned as one of the mediocre later Band records and that's just nuts

i mean i get that it doesn't quite have the singularity of BP or the vertigo-inducing highs of s/t but damn it's a great, solid record from start to finish

btw, since i could only find one passing reference to JD McPherson via search, I'll link a vid here. Roots rock fans of John Fogerty (or The Blasters, or maybe The Iguanas) might want to check him out. Great record, super fun live show. (Or maybe you're heard him and don't care?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZGn4LncY0g

the band's s/t is one of the best albums by anyone ever

http://24.media.tumblr.com/6e2f850cf1ce6e0b82749abdf9bc1ec8/tumblr_mn9rty3qUR1rvzbdgo1_500.jpg
damn i think ccr just won this poll because of this photo of them at taco bell

A+!!!

Want to see a CCR vs. The Smiths poll, but I'm not going to start it and ILX doesn't need another Smiths poll

is this song a choogle?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSFuutCPjGw

This song is absolutely a choogle.

thank you! i just wanted to make sure i understood what chooglin was and this song has the feel i thought was a choogle.

Fogarty should do a record with Jaki IMHO

Speaking of CCR and Booker T, check out who's checking out the MG's from side-stage here. I believe they're saying, "This song is absolutely a choogle."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbBcXvKvB08

booker t - CCR choogle jamz here: http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=839

I wish those Booker T & CCR jams went anywhere. More noodlin' than chooglin'.

damn, is it not worth checking out?

Yeah, choogle choogles with a purpose. xp

the choogles aren't mindblowing but they're a good time!

I thought chooglin was all about the groove, not the destination.

chooglin' to damascus

boogie-woogie choogle boy

the choogle is in you

let me choogle that for you

I like my choogles to be more exclamatory than aimless.

Choogling is like good krautrock that way. It might take eight or nine minutes to get there, but you're definitely going somewhere. Probably by train if you're choogling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4twvM3mNAuU

^ original nu-metal

Dig, if you will, Rasputina's cover of "Bad Moon Rising."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4J-l8DDH78