Creedence Clearwater Revival vs the Grateful Dead vs the Band

My equivalent of "Lovelight" for CCR would be their "Grapevine" cover. I know many people love it--to me, it runs counter to everything that's great about CCR.

ditto.

i would be safely in the pro-lovelight camp if pigpen's monologues didn't often sound like he was exhorting members of the audience to carry out some sort of sexual assault

lol, total truth bomb. it's a shame, cos some of the looong lovelights have really great garcia solos on 'em.

xpost Yeah, compare what Creedence does to the Marvin Gaye song with how the Dead murders the Merle Haggard. CCR turns this perfect pop song into an ecstatic jam, the Dead stretch Merle out into a dirge.

See, CCRs Grapevine feels like a dirge to me.

Suzy Q and Spell on You were good, but Grapevine scrapes across my ears and is no fun at all to listen to.

CCR's Grapevine is a stalker's lament.

All of their covers kind of blow. I can't for the life of me figure out why anyone would ever try to cover I Put a Spell on You.

rock bands did covers back then.

Oh come on, Suzy Q is bad ass.
That part where the spooky "oooo" vocals come in rules.

The "Spell" cover is worth it for Fogerty's singing and solo alone.

As a kid, this is what sent me back to CCR deep cuts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_u95VjPVyA

"Susie Q" I really like. And, my indifference towards "Grapevine" notwithstanding, Creedence had no trouble pulling off long songs--besides "Ramble Tamble," there was also "Effigy."

rock bands did covers back then.

covers are great, I've got no problem with them. But I Put a Spell on You is one of the greatest records ever made and Fogerty's voice pales in comparison to Hawkins. Their Suzie Q is good but doesn't really add anything to the other Hawkins version imo.

guys i'm back from vacation. i was in portland. answer to this poll is the decembrists.

the decemberists vs literally every other band ever (POLL)

i mean if any band combines the good parts of CCR, the band and the dead it's the decembrists. maybe fleet foxes, i'm not sure.

hey tyler!

i mean really they should win the rush vs yes vs zappa poll too

ha... I was just babbling to a friend that the Decemberists are so popular in the pacific NW since they're sort of a surrogate Grateful Dead for all the people who still need their jugband mountain music

heyyyy!
lol i don't know about that. is there actually deadhead/meloyhead crossover?
anyway i don't know about this poll. band had the best albums (well, the first two) and the best singers, creedence had the best singles, dead had the best live shows.

nah, just my own crackpot theory - both bands sort of project that same old-timey fetishism that Portlanders squirt their pants over

they were playing the decemberists in my hotel elevator in portland.

^^opening line of my forthcoming travel guide to the great state of Oregon.

wonder if this poll comes down to robertson vs. fogerty vs. garcia
if it was just THE BAND we were talking about, they might be easy to discount, but the Dylan association pushes them pretty close to the top. the Live 1966 stuff is basically the best. and so are the basement tapes.

heyyyy!
lol i don't know about that. is there actually deadhead/meloyhead crossover?
anyway i don't know about this poll. band had the best albums (well, the first two) and the best singers, creedence had the best singles, dead had the best live shows.

― tylerw, Friday, August 10, 2012 10:59 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wasn't meloy in an obscure alt-country/jammish band prior to decemberists?

i love all three of these bands but i am voting creedence because i have probably listened to ccr more than almost any band on earth. except maybe fleetwood mac.

xp think it was like a uncle tupelo kinda band -- don't know if it was jammy. why are we talking about the decemberists? oh right, i brought them up.

yes re: Meloy's previous band. I work next to their former manager.

decemberists vs. the perth county conspiracy vs. the grateful dead vs. rush

vs. ccr vs. fleetwood mac

vs. the flying burrito brothers

http://faintlyblowing.blogspot.com/2008/08/perth-county-conspiracy-does-not-exist.html

^^ the decemberists of 1970 imo, except the record rules

Does Not Exist album (Columbia ELS-375) came in a beautiful gatefold sleeve and is full of hippie folk/psych with appealing melodies and harmonies, which reach their zenith on the exquisite final cut, Crucifixation Cartoon. There's not a bad track on this album and lots of other pretty good ones (Midnight Hour, Easy Rider (a song about the film), You Have The Power and the gentle Lady Of The County). All are originals and some are preceded by narratives. The opening cut features an extract from one of Dylan Thomas' poems, Truth And Fantasy begins with a narration and later on side two an excerpt from William Shakespeare's As You Like It is put to music.

that is intriguing... will have to check it out. Crucifixation Cartoon!
in portland i saw not one not two but three street busking bands who wore suspenders and played accordions and banjos and sang about the sea.

there is a crustpunk jug band who play a few blocks from where i work. they're better than yer average subway/street performer, but they ain't no canon's jug stompers.

object to all the "The Band had the best singerS plural" talk, most of the time the non-Helm guys are sub-Wier imo

no way duder

http://webpages.scu.edu/ftp/ARingler/images/jsp0134-18-fp%5B1%5D.jpg

voted the Dead because I've been listening to them nonstop lately.

that's yr opinion some dude, but i would def. rather listen to danko and manuel than weir. not a slight on weir, i just think danko and manuel are amazing. but i like bob -- funny, when i saw him this summer, he was super-gruff, but it kind of suited the songs a little better. "my uncle" was kind of scary/intense coming from this old grizzled dude.

yeah i already got into this and took my lumps for it on a Band thread earlier this year but Danko's voice is nails on chalkboard to me

object to all the "The Band had the best singerS plural" talk, most of the time the non-Helm guys are sub-Wier imo
.......
I believe the expression is 'I can't even'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0WMBYQL14U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqbTPVvZ5pA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bL5hO48-pYM
I don't really have the ability to hardman these kind of discussions, but basically Richard Manuel knocks Bob Weir into a cocked hat.

"my uncle" was kind of scary/intense coming from this old grizzled dude.

I like the idea of this better than coming from a young hippie dipshit.

haha exactly.

i like how john phillips couldn't even remember writing "my uncle". he would get royalty checks in the mail and be like "are you sure i wrote that?" and then cash the checks i presume.

How about This Wheel's On Fire: Dylan vs. The Band vs. The Byrds? I would love to hear the Band's arrangment of it with Dylan singing and Clarence White on guitar and the harmony vox from the Byrds version.

(I like Rick Danko a lot too but can accept that his voice isn't everyone's cup of tea and that maybe he's the least technically proficient of the three. Anyone has a go at Manuel and it's fisticuffs though).
xp to myself

I Love Manuel's voice, think he is probably my favorite thing about the Band.