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even his book titles are inapt in their own special way

"Pffft" --buddha (silby), Friday, 10 August 2012 22:29 (eleven years ago) link

so plagiarism isn't stealing? what is it then?

kanye shiwen (dayo), Saturday, 11 August 2012 00:44 (eleven years ago) link

keeping an eye on the competition

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 11 August 2012 01:17 (eleven years ago) link

I can't believe people do this? Like I don't even understand the impulse to steal words like that.

― Mr. Que, Friday, August 10, 2012 4:46 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

people who do this shit are just busy and ambitious and im happy to see them fail not because its some huge crime against humanity but because theyre in it for themselves and not really offering anything, move over lames

lag∞n, Saturday, 11 August 2012 06:06 (eleven years ago) link

Lena Dunham's piece is both really good sentence by sentence and also fits the stereotype of New Yorker lifestyle sentence by sentence.

Earth, Wind & Fire & Alabama (Eazy), Saturday, 11 August 2012 12:16 (eleven years ago) link

the short story in the most recent issue was so empty and terrible it made me ashamed for having even read it i hope it was joke but i think it maybe wasnt

Lamp, Saturday, 11 August 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link

i think i got lulled into a false sense of optimism re: short fiction in the nyer cuz i liked the f scott thing and the one about the dude that cheated on his gf was enraging but also at least readable and the mavis gallant stuff was so good that i thought maybe this one might be terrible i mean i liked the maille meloy one about wedding proxies and i thought this one might be similarly likable if slight but instead it was just a collection of the actual worst things including a list of bands a fake person would like on facebook that made me sadder than anything

Lamp, Saturday, 11 August 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

did you like the junot diaz one?

reductio ad burzum (flopson), Saturday, 11 August 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

it made me angry but i liked the cadence of it and it was really engrossing although i wonder if everyone in boston isnt a racist they just realized that the narrator was a total piece of shit

actually everyone in boston is a racist n/m

Lamp, Saturday, 11 August 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link

haha yeah really

reductio ad burzum (flopson), Saturday, 11 August 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link

I think it's telling that a lot of these plagiarists are extremely prolific practically public figures with their fingers in many pies. Between the books, columns, TV appearances and speaking engagements, at some point they either simply must struggled to churn out copy or grow so complacent they think no one will notice. Don't believe for a second that word for word phrases, sentences and paragraphs make it in accidentally, unless by "accident" they mean they were sloppy covering up their plagiarism.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 11 August 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link

i have a feeling these guys have interns and grad students writing most of their stuff

Listen to this, dad (President Keyes), Saturday, 11 August 2012 22:12 (eleven years ago) link

"You there, kid ... go find me a New Yorker piece to rip off. Only the good bit, please, I'm in a hurry. Now off with you!"

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 11 August 2012 22:46 (eleven years ago) link

things i never read in the nyer:

- fiction (can't stand it in columns)
- shouts & murmurs
- that fucking horrible shopping column.

Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Sunday, 12 August 2012 01:57 (eleven years ago) link

I read the Shouts & Murmurs, which are short and occasionally good. Hate the shopping column. Totally forget the fiction is there except as a thank god reaction that there are 10 pages or whatever that I don't have to bother with. Sometimes I end up reading a book or collection by an author of one of those short pieces, and it's noted that it was excerpted in the New Yorker, and I think, huh, didn't read it.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 12 August 2012 02:31 (eleven years ago) link

Hate the shopping column, too.

Earth, Wind & Fire & Alabama (Eazy), Sunday, 12 August 2012 04:02 (eleven years ago) link

actually everyone in boston is a racist n/m

― Lamp, Saturday, August 11, 2012 1:31 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is not technically true, they are just horrible people

lag∞n, Sunday, 12 August 2012 07:08 (eleven years ago) link

is there really a shopping column btw

lag∞n, Sunday, 12 August 2012 07:09 (eleven years ago) link

Out and About with Miss Spending Account, or something like that. It's this arch local shop-a-log that's rife with prices.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 12 August 2012 13:24 (eleven years ago) link

Like, the shopping column could be good if it were fictional parody, like The Cursing Mommy (which is getting its own book!). But alas.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 12 August 2012 13:26 (eleven years ago) link

haha how many times has this thread had the shouts and murmurs/Patricia Marx/denby conversation

max, Sunday, 12 August 2012 13:27 (eleven years ago) link

6?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 12 August 2012 13:41 (eleven years ago) link

Also, we seem to be in an ebb period, without many pieces to talk about. Once the New Yorker hits a flow period, there'll be less talk of what's wrong.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 12 August 2012 13:42 (eleven years ago) link

ive srsly never noticed the shopping column

lag∞n, Sunday, 12 August 2012 14:05 (eleven years ago) link

patricia marx

horseshoe, Sunday, 12 August 2012 14:07 (eleven years ago) link

it's mystifying

horseshoe, Sunday, 12 August 2012 14:07 (eleven years ago) link

'on and off the avenue'

Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Sunday, 12 August 2012 14:47 (eleven years ago) link

i complain about it every 6 mos or so

Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Sunday, 12 August 2012 14:47 (eleven years ago) link

That's about how often it gets published anyway

"Pffft" --buddha (silby), Sunday, 12 August 2012 14:52 (eleven years ago) link

i also have never noticed the shopping column (is it in the happenings section?) either, for a second i thought you weirdos were referring to surowiecki.

balls, Sunday, 12 August 2012 15:17 (eleven years ago) link

btw whats up w their urls too

lag∞n, Sunday, 12 August 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

hey joe theres a fn basketball game on

ticagrelor rotini (k3vin k.), Sunday, 12 August 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link

ya im sort of watching

lag∞n, Sunday, 12 August 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link

i also have never noticed the shopping column (is it in the happenings section?) either, for a second i thought you weirdos were referring to surowiecki.

― balls, Sunday, August 12, 2012 11:17 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It only comes around now and then. It's in with the feature articles I think

Listen to this, dad (President Keyes), Sunday, 12 August 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link

they usually run 'on and off the avenue' in the spring and in the late fall during xmas shopping season. it would be useful article if a) i wanted to know where in manahattan i could buy $350 salad servers and b) that answer to that wasnt 'p much anywhere'.

i do kinda want to know what REAL nyers think of the 'table for two' reviews theyve been doin lately tho

Lamp, Sunday, 12 August 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link

i've only eaten at one of those, i think -- neither the review nor my experience were very good.

i suspect dmr/max/dan are your go-to dudes

mookieproof, Sunday, 12 August 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link

theyve been doing table for two forever haven't they? I don't have much of an opinion really, no better or worse than any other food writing in this city

max, Sunday, 12 August 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

yeah its probably about as old as the magazine its more that when i lived there it just seemed to be solely the purview of like nick paumgarten, wire fan and kinda terrible but lately it seems to cover more interesting places and be a little better or more interestingly written?

but i mean ive eaten at like one of the last half dozen or so places theyve reviewed so idk how reliable it actually is and was curious i guess

Lamp, Sunday, 12 August 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link

have u eaten @ lady gagas parents restaurant? that review just seemed otm

johnny crunch, Sunday, 12 August 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link

i actually like those lil table for 2s

Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Sunday, 12 August 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link

- fiction (can't stand it in columns)

lol what!

reductio ad burzum (flopson), Monday, 13 August 2012 00:30 (eleven years ago) link

probably meaning that NYer three column format--not ideal for fiction, at least for people used to reading it in books

Listen to this, dad (President Keyes), Monday, 13 August 2012 01:00 (eleven years ago) link

i've eaten at a few table for two places both before and after reviews. it's sorta an easy way to find a hot restaurant i guess?

I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Monday, 13 August 2012 01:03 (eleven years ago) link

didn't know the new yorker yelped

kanye shiwen (dayo), Monday, 13 August 2012 01:10 (eleven years ago) link

at least they know enough to say 'people WHO yelp are a bunch of fucking savages'

mookieproof, Monday, 13 August 2012 01:37 (eleven years ago) link

saväges

kanye shiwen (dayo), Monday, 13 August 2012 01:42 (eleven years ago) link

jüst sö

mookieproof, Monday, 13 August 2012 01:44 (eleven years ago) link

- fiction (can't stand it in columns)

lol what!

― reductio ad burzum (flopson), Sunday, August 12, 2012 8:30 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

probably meaning that NYer three column format--not ideal for fiction, at least for people used to reading it in books

― Listen to this, dad (President Keyes), Sunday, August 12, 2012 9:00 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this

Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Monday, 13 August 2012 04:34 (eleven years ago) link

things i never read in the nyer:

- fiction (can't stand it in columns)

haha this bothers me too -- something about the format is distracting in a 'DON'T FORGET YOU ARE READING THE NEW YORKER' kind of way.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 13 August 2012 05:46 (eleven years ago) link


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