it made me angry but i liked the cadence of it and it was really engrossing although i wonder if everyone in boston isnt a racist they just realized that the narrator was a total piece of shit
actually everyone in boston is a racist n/m
― Lamp, Saturday, 11 August 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link
haha yeah really
― reductio ad burzum (flopson), Saturday, 11 August 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link
I think it's telling that a lot of these plagiarists are extremely prolific practically public figures with their fingers in many pies. Between the books, columns, TV appearances and speaking engagements, at some point they either simply must struggled to churn out copy or grow so complacent they think no one will notice. Don't believe for a second that word for word phrases, sentences and paragraphs make it in accidentally, unless by "accident" they mean they were sloppy covering up their plagiarism.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 11 August 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link
i have a feeling these guys have interns and grad students writing most of their stuff
― Listen to this, dad (President Keyes), Saturday, 11 August 2012 22:12 (eleven years ago) link
"You there, kid ... go find me a New Yorker piece to rip off. Only the good bit, please, I'm in a hurry. Now off with you!"
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 11 August 2012 22:46 (eleven years ago) link
things i never read in the nyer:
- fiction (can't stand it in columns)- shouts & murmurs- that fucking horrible shopping column.
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Sunday, 12 August 2012 01:57 (eleven years ago) link
I read the Shouts & Murmurs, which are short and occasionally good. Hate the shopping column. Totally forget the fiction is there except as a thank god reaction that there are 10 pages or whatever that I don't have to bother with. Sometimes I end up reading a book or collection by an author of one of those short pieces, and it's noted that it was excerpted in the New Yorker, and I think, huh, didn't read it.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 12 August 2012 02:31 (eleven years ago) link
Hate the shopping column, too.
― Earth, Wind & Fire & Alabama (Eazy), Sunday, 12 August 2012 04:02 (eleven years ago) link
― Lamp, Saturday, August 11, 2012 1:31 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is not technically true, they are just horrible people
― lag∞n, Sunday, 12 August 2012 07:08 (eleven years ago) link
is there really a shopping column btw
― lag∞n, Sunday, 12 August 2012 07:09 (eleven years ago) link
Out and About with Miss Spending Account, or something like that. It's this arch local shop-a-log that's rife with prices.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 12 August 2012 13:24 (eleven years ago) link
Like, the shopping column could be good if it were fictional parody, like The Cursing Mommy (which is getting its own book!). But alas.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 12 August 2012 13:26 (eleven years ago) link
haha how many times has this thread had the shouts and murmurs/Patricia Marx/denby conversation
― max, Sunday, 12 August 2012 13:27 (eleven years ago) link
6?
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 12 August 2012 13:41 (eleven years ago) link
Also, we seem to be in an ebb period, without many pieces to talk about. Once the New Yorker hits a flow period, there'll be less talk of what's wrong.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 12 August 2012 13:42 (eleven years ago) link
ive srsly never noticed the shopping column
― lag∞n, Sunday, 12 August 2012 14:05 (eleven years ago) link
patricia marx
― horseshoe, Sunday, 12 August 2012 14:07 (eleven years ago) link
it's mystifying
'on and off the avenue'
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Sunday, 12 August 2012 14:47 (eleven years ago) link
i complain about it every 6 mos or so
That's about how often it gets published anyway
― "Pffft" --buddha (silby), Sunday, 12 August 2012 14:52 (eleven years ago) link
i also have never noticed the shopping column (is it in the happenings section?) either, for a second i thought you weirdos were referring to surowiecki.
― balls, Sunday, 12 August 2012 15:17 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/12/08/081208fa_fact_marx
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Sunday, 12 August 2012 15:20 (eleven years ago) link
btw whats up w their urls too
― lag∞n, Sunday, 12 August 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link
hey joe theres a fn basketball game on
― ticagrelor rotini (k3vin k.), Sunday, 12 August 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link
ya im sort of watching
― lag∞n, Sunday, 12 August 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link
― balls, Sunday, August 12, 2012 11:17 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
It only comes around now and then. It's in with the feature articles I think
― Listen to this, dad (President Keyes), Sunday, 12 August 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link
they usually run 'on and off the avenue' in the spring and in the late fall during xmas shopping season. it would be useful article if a) i wanted to know where in manahattan i could buy $350 salad servers and b) that answer to that wasnt 'p much anywhere'.
i do kinda want to know what REAL nyers think of the 'table for two' reviews theyve been doin lately tho
― Lamp, Sunday, 12 August 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link
i've only eaten at one of those, i think -- neither the review nor my experience were very good.
i suspect dmr/max/dan are your go-to dudes
― mookieproof, Sunday, 12 August 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link
theyve been doing table for two forever haven't they? I don't have much of an opinion really, no better or worse than any other food writing in this city
― max, Sunday, 12 August 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link
yeah its probably about as old as the magazine its more that when i lived there it just seemed to be solely the purview of like nick paumgarten, wire fan and kinda terrible but lately it seems to cover more interesting places and be a little better or more interestingly written?
but i mean ive eaten at like one of the last half dozen or so places theyve reviewed so idk how reliable it actually is and was curious i guess
― Lamp, Sunday, 12 August 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link
have u eaten @ lady gagas parents restaurant? that review just seemed otm
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 12 August 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link
i actually like those lil table for 2s
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Sunday, 12 August 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link
- fiction (can't stand it in columns)
lol what!
― reductio ad burzum (flopson), Monday, 13 August 2012 00:30 (eleven years ago) link
probably meaning that NYer three column format--not ideal for fiction, at least for people used to reading it in books
― Listen to this, dad (President Keyes), Monday, 13 August 2012 01:00 (eleven years ago) link
i've eaten at a few table for two places both before and after reviews. it's sorta an easy way to find a hot restaurant i guess?
― I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Monday, 13 August 2012 01:03 (eleven years ago) link
didn't know the new yorker yelped
― kanye shiwen (dayo), Monday, 13 August 2012 01:10 (eleven years ago) link
at least they know enough to say 'people WHO yelp are a bunch of fucking savages'
― mookieproof, Monday, 13 August 2012 01:37 (eleven years ago) link
saväges
― kanye shiwen (dayo), Monday, 13 August 2012 01:42 (eleven years ago) link
jüst sö
― mookieproof, Monday, 13 August 2012 01:44 (eleven years ago) link
― reductio ad burzum (flopson), Sunday, August 12, 2012 8:30 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Listen to this, dad (President Keyes), Sunday, August 12, 2012 9:00 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Monday, 13 August 2012 04:34 (eleven years ago) link
things i never read in the nyer:- fiction (can't stand it in columns)
haha this bothers me too -- something about the format is distracting in a 'DON'T FORGET YOU ARE READING THE NEW YORKER' kind of way.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 13 August 2012 05:46 (eleven years ago) link
i like columns, you fold your magazine into a reading tube
― , Blogger (schlump), Monday, 13 August 2012 11:17 (eleven years ago) link
whatever next, longform bibles
I had a friend who used to work at the New Yorker, and when they moved offices a few years back a lot of the staff was gifted stacks of old issues from the archives. My friend pointed out that as much as people like to bitch about the mag's layout, or especially its commercialization or whatever under Brown or even Remnick, it used to be so much worse! Like, 20 page stories on nothing with, like, ads running down the middle of the page and stuff. Total mess. I suppose anyone with one of those impossible to navigate Complete New Yorker collections can see for themselves how much more user friendly it has become.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 August 2012 14:21 (eleven years ago) link
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Monday, 13 August 2012 00:34 (15 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i understood this and my post was not 1 of confusion but of disbelief at such a particular or petty reason (not that nyer fiction is worth reading anyways but)
― reductio ad burzum (flopson), Monday, 13 August 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link
would u read a really skinny book??
― reductio ad burzum (flopson), Monday, 13 August 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link
ew NO
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Monday, 13 August 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link
― Lamp, Saturday, 11 August 2012 13:31 (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ya word asked because i am a fan of the writer but kind of hated this story and iirc there was another one with a similarly repulsive narrator, now wondering if the author is just such a shithead? i loved his novel, even the parts narrated by the sisters bf, but idk if i can get down with this level of depravity. like the way he justs lists girls is so dehumanizing, and i get that that's the point but then like, even more fully fleshed out characters made me feel the same way
― reductio ad burzum (flopson), Monday, 13 August 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.salon.com/2012/08/16/andy_borowitz_not_funny/
― ticagrelor rotini (k3vin k.), Thursday, 16 August 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link