quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a rolling new york times thread

"your drinking/fucking-in-restroom anecdote is below my pay grade"

yeah but more oldmanyellingatcloud than anything, no?

my dad is kind of that way, darn boomers

a lot of the boomer dudes who come in my store are looking for validation that they were once cool. they want me to actually TELL them that they are very very cool. which is why i have to hear about record collections that haven't existed for 30 years. then they make it worse and tell me how much they love "the spotify".

but my ranting belongs on the boomer hate thread. sorry.

do you ever tell them theyre cool tho, just to try, 'wow great record collection/story you are cool'

then maybe they leave, no

then they bask.

and think of more cool stories.

and tell me that i'm too young to remember records.

...as you sit in a record store

i remember records

I remember newspapers

i remember dial tones

I remember trains

i remember planes trains and automobiles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc2g-1jZSdY

“Eataly has became the equivalent of an Italian piazza, where both the richest and the poorest feel comfortable,” he said. “You can get a $5 gelato or a $100 meal.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/29/dining/eataly-exceeds-revenue-predictions.html

Eataly is a shitshow most days

probably because of all the poorest people eating $5 gelato

truly the lowest forms of life

I remember trying to figure out if Eataly was a thing worth going to the last time I was visiting NY and I couldn't figure out from the website which of its sub-establishments served actual meals. Also it seemed likely to be a shitshow.

I like the idea of eataly and walk around sometimes, also I use their bathroom a lot

also can someone decide whether or not we are locking this thread and going w/ the other one

The one time I went to Eataly it did seem like kind of a shitshow -- I walked around a bit but felt pressed by the crowds, then ate some gelato and an espresso at a very cramped and uncomfortable counter

I find it hard to be bitter about places w/ clean, easy-access bathrooms in manhattan

NYC is kind of like that in general anyway -- most things that are any good and well known are also mobbed all the time, and if you hate crowds the way I do, the crowdedness completely overwhelms the good things about the experience

that is a pretty limited definition of 'any good'

i havent been to eataly the store really except to go up to the rooftop restaurant which was pretty good i thought, good fried mushrooms

I didn't even know there was a rooftop restaurant

how many italian restaurants are contained in that place, sheesh

like 5!

eataly should build housing so you can live in eataly

otm

they could call it "sleepaly"

Could almost start a subthread about Atlantic Monthly articles that are supposed to be about gender but are actually about ruling class gender:

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2012/10/the-weaker-sex/309094/

In 2012 America, as she points out, women are better educated than men (women earn the majority of bachelor’s and graduate degrees); an escalating number of single women younger than 30 earn more than their male peers; and nine of the 10 U.S. job industries with the most projected growth are women-­dominated. This last figure has resulted from various societal shifts, ranging from a late-20th-century fall in manufacturing jobs to the rise of such lucrative, almost exclusively female professions as psychotherapy. (Indeed—do you know a male therapist? I don’t, and my last therapist charged a murderous $275 an hour.)

i had no idea male therapists/psychiatrists were rare? is this a thing

have had two male therapists, have seen many of them while searching

but sandra tsing loh doesn't know any, they must have been women in drag

sandra tsing loh still exists, wow

I really try to avoid being in the same corner as "oppressed men" types, but The Atlantic has really had a strong run of trolling my gender and it's getting under my skin a little.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/27/fashion/for-college-students-social-media-tops-the-bar-scene.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&pagewanted=print

I feel like that's one small step from making fun of those people, like this line could make hipster runoff:

“Come on, let’s go smoke cigars and play drunken Madden,” Mr. Brogan said, moving his thumbs to mime an Xbox controller. Mr. McLaughlin’s phone lit up and he jumped, but alas, it was only a Facebook status update.

also that picture of the 'fishbowl' is horrifying

Lenny Leonardo is the best name for a former bar owner from Florida and Peter Brogan is the best name for a 21 year old wearing shorts, a button-down shirt and flip-flops.

it's almost impossible to say "brogan" without doing a fratty voice

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/27/fashion/mom-and-pop-stores-the-brooklyn-generation.html

"But not so fast. Behind these perfectly imperfect facades, there is often mold on the cheese, wrinkles in the chinos."

Oh man Holler & Squall, I remember when that place opened up. It seemed like some kind of art joke about stores, like what the hell does anyone actually buy there?

owning & operating an independent retail store is time-consuming and stressful? oh word? this is an entirely new phenomenon.

im surprised they got so many ppl to talk about what a shitshow their marriages have become

But also talk about how great their boutique stores are in the NYT, that might bright the love back!