We Become Panoramic - THE KATE BUSH RESULTS THREAD (ilm artist poll #24)

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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/05/Kate_Bush_The_Dreaming_Cover.jpg

2. THE DREAMING (1982)
124 points, twenty-two votes, eleven no.1s

Ismael Klata, Monday, 27 August 2012 13:32 (eleven years ago) link

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/eb/Hounds_of_love.jpg

1. HOUNDS OF LOVE (1985)
135 points, twenty-three votes, twelve no.1s

Ismael Klata, Monday, 27 August 2012 13:35 (eleven years ago) link

Not troubling the scorers: The Whole Story, The Red Shoes, The Director's Cut, 50 Words For Snow

Ismael Klata, Monday, 27 August 2012 13:37 (eleven years ago) link

I'm going to get a spot of work done before starting tracks, but meantime: what should I do about youtube links? I want to link, but don't want to clog the thread up. I put youtu.be instead of youtube.com, is that right? Do I need to linkify it too?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 27 August 2012 13:51 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks for leading off with a Bimble quote. I'm glad he's with us in spirit.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 27 August 2012 13:54 (eleven years ago) link

Ismael, if you click the "share" button underneath any YouTube video, it will spit out a link that won't automatically bring the video into the thread.

Clarke B., Monday, 27 August 2012 13:59 (eleven years ago) link

Okay I've got one that ends _gdata_player, do I just paste that in and ilx does the rest?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 27 August 2012 14:04 (eleven years ago) link

Hmm, that I'm not sure; my techie skills are pretty sad. It seems the link they spit out with "share" is indeed just the regular link with the youtu.be substitution you mention above, now that I'm looking at it.

Clarke B., Monday, 27 August 2012 14:11 (eleven years ago) link

I'll play safe then rather than relying on cleverness. I'm doing this from my phone too, which adds another layer of things-to-go-wrong.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 27 August 2012 14:13 (eleven years ago) link

I expected the #1 and #2 spots to be a race between Hounds of Love and the Dreaming, but wasn't expecting Aerial to trounce Never for Ever so handily in the contest for #3!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 27 August 2012 14:31 (eleven years ago) link

TRACKS

Ismael Klata, Monday, 27 August 2012 14:40 (eleven years ago) link

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4981/0049aerial.jpg

49. Aerial
102 points, five votes
Aerial (2005)
youtube

Ismael Klata, Monday, 27 August 2012 14:48 (eleven years ago) link

"Aerial" over "Never For Ever"? Wow.

Loo Reading (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 27 August 2012 14:53 (eleven years ago) link

Is that an equal 49th?

Jeff W, Monday, 27 August 2012 14:56 (eleven years ago) link

Aerial is completely incredible though - that's the one I've been devouring most this past week. I ended up with it as my no.1, though in fairness I could've had any of the top three there.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 27 August 2012 14:57 (eleven years ago) link

i think what's important is

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 27 August 2012 14:59 (eleven years ago) link

I FEEL I WANNA BE UP ON THE ROOF

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 27 August 2012 14:59 (eleven years ago) link

Yes xp, 49 is a tie, I'm not being eccentric. 46 is a three-way tie, and iirc 39 is a tie too; but I think above that they're all unique.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 27 August 2012 15:00 (eleven years ago) link

It hurt me not to vote for this track. Listening to it now, I should've just figured out a way to do it.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 27 August 2012 15:10 (eleven years ago) link

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/3220/0049loveandanger.jpg

49. Love And Anger
102 points,  five votes
The Sensual World (1989)
youtube

Ismael Klata, Monday, 27 August 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link

think i dropped this from my ballot at the last minute :/

half-worm inchworm tapeworm (donna rouge), Monday, 27 August 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link

too low! guessing we'll see very little of The Sensual World or The Red Shoes then, & pretty much all of HOL.

Euler, Monday, 27 August 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

I found a Sky of Honey's tracks even more problematic than the Ninth Wave's, as they are even more of a piece. Wonder if they might not suffer a bit as they end up being randomly chosen as placeholders for the entire album side.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 27 August 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link

Re. the albums, I tried really hard to reacquaint myself w the first three records. There may come a time that I love them -- the ballads, the theatricality of it all. But short of a few songs on Never For Ever, even with the re-listening these last few weeks, this isn't that time.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 27 August 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link

I've never gotten past the video for "Love and Anger," which was my introduction to Kate Bush. On another thread, I wrote this about TSW:

I'm still trying to get a grip on the whole thing, but the record opens very strong. On the whole, it still sounds a bit...overstuffed -- the video for "Love and Anger" indicated as much, featuring very LUSH optics, sparkly confetti and Dave Gilmour, who himself looks overstuffed.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 27 August 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link

Re. the albums, I tried really hard to reacquaint myself w the first three records. There may come a time that I love them -- the ballads, the theatricality of it all. But short of a few songs on Never For Ever, even with the re-listening these last few weeks, this isn't that time.

― Naive Teen Idol, Monday, August 27, 2012 8:37 AM (1 minute ago)

a selection of tracks from the first four albums = by far my favorite kate bush material

i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Monday, 27 August 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/2025/0046laketahoe.jpg

46. Lake Tahoe
103 points, five votes
50 Words For Snow (2011)
youtube

Ismael Klata, Monday, 27 August 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/467/0046wakingthewitch.jpg

46. Waking The Witch
103 points, five votes
Hounds of Love (1985)
youtube

Ismael Klata, Monday, 27 August 2012 16:56 (eleven years ago) link

and there's my first to place. i must admit, my primary reason for voting vor this was "wake up man".

second only to popcorn (or something), Monday, 27 August 2012 16:59 (eleven years ago) link

these song images are awesome, BTW.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 27 August 2012 16:59 (eleven years ago) link

love "waking the witch". witchy part always freaks me out.

i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Monday, 27 August 2012 17:00 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks. Some relate to the songs, some don't - I let my mind wander a bit while I'm doing them.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 27 August 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link

these song images are awesome, BTW.

I'm not getting any of them -- all broken on my computer in Chrome.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 27 August 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link

well that was yesterday well spent

Ismael Klata, Monday, 27 August 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link

working fine here

Cong rat ululations (seandalai), Monday, 27 August 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link

The album covers were fine.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 27 August 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

same

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 August 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link

working here for me in Chrome

wise men farting over you (snoball), Monday, 27 August 2012 17:11 (eleven years ago) link

yeah they're good here, tho i'll admit to being completely flummoxed by them so far (but that's fine).

second only to popcorn (or something), Monday, 27 August 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link

GUILTY! GUILTY! GUILTY!

half-worm inchworm tapeworm (donna rouge), Monday, 27 August 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/5045/0046misty.jpg

46. Misty
103 points, six votes
50 Words For Snow (2011)
youtube

Ismael Klata, Monday, 27 August 2012 17:17 (eleven years ago) link

Fantastic effort, Ismael. Really enjoying this.

Leonard Pine, Monday, 27 August 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link

for a while this was my favourite from '50 words for snow', it's not quite now but it does encapsulate everything that's good about that album.

second only to popcorn (or something), Monday, 27 August 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

Voted for "Lake Tahoe". Glad to see it here!

Loo Reading (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 27 August 2012 17:34 (eleven years ago) link

I hardly know what to think about 50, I can hardly get a handle on it now. It's like it's drifting away from me, or I'm viewing it through frosted glass. Only Wild Man, Wheeler St and the title track carry any sort of weight for me beyond the odd snippet.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 27 August 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link

It'll make sense again in three months.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 27 August 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link

you've skilfully missed the best track on it there ik.

second only to popcorn (or something), Monday, 27 August 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link

I voted for Wheeler Street. I don't think I'm giving too much away if I say it was just me.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 27 August 2012 17:56 (eleven years ago) link

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9003/0045ohenglandmylionhear.jpg

45. Oh England My Lionheart
104 points, five votes
Lionheart (1978)
in concert!

Ismael Klata, Monday, 27 August 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link

Neither of the above are the 50 Words track I voted for, but I'm glad to see them. Sort of surprised "Witch" is so low, I think of that as a pretty iconic track. (But that could be because I first heard it on a mixtape my college girlfriend made me when we were first going out.)

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 27 August 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link

A couple of corrections in the minor slots:

December Will Be Magic Again - four votes and 81 points
In Search Of Peter Pan - two votes and 34 points

Don't keep 'em coming

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 30 August 2012 06:26 (eleven years ago) link

1. This Woman's Work
2. Them Heavy People
3. The Man with the Child in His Eyes
4. Deeper Understanding
5. The Sensual World
6. And Dream of Sheep
7. Joanni
8. Suspended in Gaffa
9. Army Dreamers
10. How to Be Invisible
11. Rocket Man
12. Pull Out the Pin
13. In the Warm Room
14. Breathing
15. Mrs Bartolozzi
16. Mother Stands for Comfort
17. There Goes a Tenner
18. Wuthering Heights
19. Somewhere in Between
20. Babooshka

i don't love Hounds of Love as much as a lot of you i guess

just one little Tayto (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 30 August 2012 07:56 (eleven years ago) link

I didn't vote (I only knew "Hounds of Love" and a handful of other songs here and there) but had a lot of fun following the results and finally getting around to hearing more of Kate Bush's music. Great poll, thanks Ismael!

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 30 August 2012 08:09 (eleven years ago) link

Bold didn't place, including my #1 sadly.

1. Why Should I Love You?
2. Wuthering Heights
3. Running Up That Hill
4. This Woman's Work
5. Cloudbursting
6. Moments of Pleasure
7. Watching You Without Me
8. An Architect's Dream

9. Army Dreamers
10. And Dream of Sheep
11. The Dreaming
12. There Goes a Tenner
13. The Big Sky
14. Hounds of Love
15. Bertie
16. Rocket Man

17. Man With The Child In His Eyes
18. Misty
19. Breathing
20. Them Heavy People

Albums

1, Hounds of Love
2. The Dreaming
3. Aerial

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Thursday, 30 August 2012 10:34 (eleven years ago) link

i love aerial but i am kinda surprised by just how well it did here, i do wonder how much of that is maybe for a large segment of ilx it was the first kate bush lp they experienced first hand so to speak.

Process of elimination for me. HOL is her only perfect album for me. I even regret sticking TSW on my list.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 August 2012 10:54 (eleven years ago) link

1. Feel It
2. The Man with the Child in His Eyes
3. L'Amour Looks Something like You
4. Cloudbusting
5. Running Up That Hill
6. Snowflake
7. Night Scented Stock
8. A Coral Room
9. Oh to Be in Love
10. Wuthering Heights
11. In the Warm Room
12. Nocturn
13. Army Dreamers
14. Lake Tahoe
15. Night of the Swallow
16. Mother Stands for Comfort
17. The Dreaming
18. The Kick Inside
19. Misty
20. Wow

ALBUMS

1. The Kick Inside
2. Hounds of Love
3. Aerial

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 30 August 2012 11:51 (eleven years ago) link

Hmph. Totally would've preferred Cloudbusting or Hounds as #1. I'm always glad to hear Running, but it's never been one of my Kate faves. Anyway, here's mine. Think everything placed except the two Red Shoes tracks.

Jig of Life
The Dreaming
The Man With the Child in His Eyes
Wuthering Heights ('86 version)
Nocturn
Leave It Open
Cloudbusting
Breathing
Hello Earth
The Sensual World
Hounds of Love
Night of the Swallow
Waking the Witch
Sat in Your Lap
Snowflake
Lily
Get Out of My House
Pull Out the Pin
Top of the City
Experiment IV

ALBUMS
The Dreaming
Hounds of Love
Aerial

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 30 August 2012 13:53 (eleven years ago) link

And great poll, IK. Thanks. The pictures were gorgeous.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 30 August 2012 14:02 (eleven years ago) link

this poll has made me realise how much attention i should have paid to All The Love, amazing bit of work.

piscesx, Thursday, 30 August 2012 14:48 (eleven years ago) link

LET'S EXCHANGE THE EXPERIENCE

Nocturn
Running Up That Hill
Cloudbusting
Hounds of Love
Suspended in Gaffa
The Morning Fog
One Last Look Around The House Before We Go
Love and Anger
Rubberband Girl
Big Sky
This Woman's Work
Breathing
Experiment IV
A Coral Room
Jig of Life
The Fog
Heads We're Dancing
The Man with the Child in his Eyes
Symphony in Blue
Big Stripey Lie

albums
Hounds of Love
Aerial
The Dreaming

Euler, Thursday, 30 August 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link

if this poll happened a week ago i would've been mondo annoyed at running's placement. it always left me cold. but i happened to hear it on the radio while driving last night and i was like 'damn this owns doesnt it' so i guess it finally clicked. still think wuthering not being #1 is mild challops (i might've voted for gaffa tho)

Hungry4Ass, Friday, 31 August 2012 14:40 (eleven years ago) link

Very belated thanks to IK for running this and for the beautiful rollout.

My ballot:
Tracks
01 The Sensual World
02 The Dreaming
03 Rocket's Tail
04 The Man with the Child in His Eyes
05 Sat in Your Lap
06 King of the Mountain
07 Army Dreamers
08 Leave It Open
09 The Infant Kiss
10 The Red Shoes
11 Get Out of My House
12 All the Love
13 Moments of Pleasure
14 Delius (Song of Summer)
15 Suspended in Gaffa
16 Nocturn
17 Deeper Understanding
18 Houdini
19 Them Heavy People (On Stage EP version)
20 Ken

Albums
01 The Dreaming
02 Aerial
03 The Sensual World

Jeff W, Monday, 3 September 2012 12:50 (eleven years ago) link

Many thanks to Ismael forSam great poll. A bit late to followup, but...

*5. Wuthering Heights
617 points, twenty-two votes, three no.1s
The Kick Inside (1978) (two votes for The Whole Story (1986))
debut performance*


In addition to the point above that it being #5 is a bit of a LOL, I did want to return to a point I made in the noms thread. While I respect folks who prefer the first version they heard of this, and myself generally can't be bothered with remakes no matter how "technically" or even "musically" superior they are, in the case of the 1986 New Vocal version, it's not even close.

On the original, the way she phrases "It's me/Cathy, I've come home" leaves her running out of breath by the time she reaches "I'm" (it's already an odd phrasing, putting the "I'm" in the line with "home" instead of "So cold" but the clipped way she sings it makes it even odder). But on the remake, her superior breath control allows her to extend the "ee's" of "me" and "Cathy" so that she can go straight into a hugely powerful "Co-o-o-ollld." That in turn allows her to use the line "Let me in-a-your window" as the climax of the chorus instead of the kind of tag it serves as in the original.

Not altogether unlike Sinatra ca. the Capitol recordings, the skill of her singing by this time was at its absolute peak. And on this, it allows her to fundamentally transform not just the feel of one of her best-known songs into something even more powerful and natural -- but the melody itself. It's amazing.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 3 September 2012 13:06 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, but a) the original sounds like a crazy person singing alien music whereas in '86 it just sounds like Kate Bush, b) there's a MIDIVerb or something on the '86 version that makes it sound as if she's singing in a bathroom instead of on a wild and windy moor, c) one needs to hear how untamed her voice was on those early singles to really appreciate the subsequent "soft focus" approach to her singing on "Lionheart" moving into the high drama of "Never For Ever".

nedless summer (Ówen P.), Monday, 3 September 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link

I'm 100% in favour of remixing and revising and think more people should do it. Even when it creates crap, which it does, like 90% of the time, having a polished-up crap version only sharpens the ingenuity of the original

nedless summer (Ówen P.), Monday, 3 September 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link

(Not calling '86 "Kick Inside" vocal takes crap, mind)

nedless summer (Ówen P.), Monday, 3 September 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link

four years pass...

I love her. My revised list of her best.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 March 2017 01:57 (seven years ago) link

Great list, A+

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Thursday, 23 March 2017 02:10 (seven years ago) link

Yep, excellent list, Alfred.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 25 March 2017 12:50 (seven years ago) link

alfred you don't own the Kick Inside or Lionheart???

akm, Sunday, 26 March 2017 01:38 (seven years ago) link

I own TKI but not Lionheart, don't relish playing the former except as exceptional demos

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 26 March 2017 01:42 (seven years ago) link

Lionheart is worth picking up for a few choice songs (Kashka, coffee homeground, the title track).

akm, Sunday, 26 March 2017 03:00 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

The Kick Inside is awesome.

Her catalog is awesome.

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 02:50 (five years ago) link

I like the love you showed for Aerial, but I don't think I will ever understand the gushing that the Dreaming receives. It's a weird dynamic; most casual fans don't rate it at all, but of the more serious fans that do rate it, the overwhelming majority seem to overrate the ever-loving hell out of it. It's a pretty good album, but considering the next two records she released after it, it's very mediocre in comparison.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 03:12 (five years ago) link

A Sky of Honey is the greatest thing ever

ufo, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 03:56 (five years ago) link

Trying to imagine a world in which The Dreaming sounds mediocre compared to The Sensual World.

Tim F, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 04:43 (five years ago) link

It's not a terribly sensual one, to be honest.

Tim F, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 04:43 (five years ago) link

Given how much of a favourite it is of Kate's, having been picked for the live shows, it's surprising how badly Lily did.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 08:12 (five years ago) link

didn't rank '50 Words for Snow'?

Nourry, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 09:31 (five years ago) link

Trying to imagine a world in which The Dreaming sounds mediocre compared to The Sensual World.

― Tim F, Tuesday, September 11, 2018 12:43 AM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm with you. Or any record of hers after HoL for that matter.

An Uphill Battle For Legumes (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 12:38 (five years ago) link

A Sky of Honey is the greatest thing ever

― ufo, Monday, September 10, 2018 8:56 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 12:39 (five years ago) link

i won't hear any sensual world slander, idk how anyone can not get immediately enveloped in it, the way its textures sprout up & spread out like a landscape in the fog

lowercase (eric), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 12:47 (five years ago) link

to use the ready-made image lol

lowercase (eric), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 12:50 (five years ago) link

I like the love you showed for Aerial, but I don't think I will ever understand the gushing that the Dreaming receives. It's a weird dynamic; most casual fans don't rate it at all, but of the more serious fans that do rate it, the overwhelming majority seem to overrate the ever-loving hell out of it. It's a pretty good album, but considering the next two records she released after it, it's very mediocre in comparison.

― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, September 10, 2018 11:12 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this, except for Hounds of Love

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 14:56 (five years ago) link

tbh same

lowercase (eric), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 14:58 (five years ago) link

A Sky of Honey is the greatest thing ever

― ufo, Monday, September 10, 2018 8:56 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

― princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, September 11, 2018 1:39 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

Nourry, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 15:48 (five years ago) link

I think The Sensual World is great but The Dreaming is monumental.

Tim F, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 17:59 (five years ago) link


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