Heldon/Richard Pinhas: S&D

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thanks to slsk i am now listening to Well and Alive In France: Live in Nancy 1979. raw, live stuff that sound pretty much like you'd expect: a mixture of the sequenced synthesizer pieces with drums and rock trio noises. it's pretty cool.

if it was the only album of some obscure NWW list band people would be losing their shit over it, but it's just heldon. murky heldon.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Thursday, 12 October 2006 11:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Half a year until Dadaismus will be buying Yes box sets

Three years now

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I was listening to Pinhas' East West album yesterday. Grab bag of synth/guitar/thud stuff, but worth seeking out.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Well and Alive In France: Live in Nancy 1979

I can see why this never came out until now, the sound quality is pretty crisped out

but god this is face-melting, they don't stop -- if this were well recorded this would probably even top Interface -- I hope there are other live Heldon tapes from this time still waiting to be rediscovered

milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 23 October 2006 23:00 (seventeen years ago) link

captain trip is also reissuing those:

Richard Pinhas : Rhizosphère (1977)
Richard Pinhas : Chronolyse (1978)
Richard Pinhas : Iceland (1980)
and an anthology of singles '72-'80:

< SCHIZO >
1. Schizo (And The Little Girl)
2. Paraphrenia Praecox
3. Le Voyageur
4. Torcol
< HELDON >
5. Baader-Meinhof Blues
6. O.D.B.
7. Perspectives 1 bis complement
8. Perspectives 4 bis
< T.H.X. >
9. Telstar
10. Rhizosphere suite
< RICHARD PINHAS >
11. Rhizosphere Sequent
12. Claire P.
13. West Side
14. Houston 69
15. Beautiful May

i think of buying Chronolise and Iceland: any suggestion?

minerva estassi (minerva estassi), Monday, 23 October 2006 23:26 (seventeen years ago) link

re: the singles - AWESOME!

chronolyse - first half is simple, repetitive synthesizer-sequencer stuff, short tracks. second half is one long 30 minute jam in the heldon rock style. all use character names from dune as titles.

iceland is all minimal synth stuff, droney and dark.

(it should be noted that you can get chronolyse for $13 from cuneiform records. iceland is apparently out of print.)

i can't believe nobody posted this yet - angbase did a young person's guide to heldon a while back, well worth reading.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 01:41 (seventeen years ago) link

not an expert on later Pinhas work (I sold Rhizosphere long ago) but I want to report to this thread that I scored the Heldon I/III double CD for ten bucks today. I am very happy and the stereo is currently cranked in anticipation of "Zind Destruction". Definitely my OPO.

wow, ANOTHER xpost with God Punch.

sleeve version 2.0 (sleeve testing), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 01:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Pandora often play some stuff off Tranzition, which I quite liked. Anyone heard it in full?

is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 07:49 (seventeen years ago) link

yes, tho wasn't that thrilled. I want to root for his new stuff (in fact, just got his newest Metatron in the mail the other day -- similar to Tranzition, but haven't watched the video stuff yet), but I guess I just wish it was more like Heldon, as far as being, like, BIG AND SCARY AND ORGASMIC.

Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 20:37 (seventeen years ago) link

you know what was disappointing? the one he did with frohmader from nekropolis. what a let-down.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 02:54 (seventeen years ago) link

seven months pass...

!!!

DATES
June to July - USA TOUR (including West Coast)
24 juin : Santa Monica (Los Angeles)
27 juin : G3 Lounge (San Francisco)
29 juin : 21 Grand, Oakland (San Francisco)
1er juillet : Rotture, Portland
2 ou 3 juillet : Horrist club, Seattle
5 juillet : Montreal Jazz festival, Canada
9 july: Detroit
12 juillet : Washington DC
13 juillet : Baltimore
12 Octobre: Tokyo, Japan

Richard Pinhas + Wolf Eyes
Recording NYC + Michigan, March 2007
Status : confirmed

Milton Parker, Friday, 15 June 2007 04:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Funnily enough I just got a copy of the new Pinhas in the mail, along with the reissue of Heldon 6. Which was nice but I dunno, I more admire Pinhas than love him.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 June 2007 04:57 (sixteen years ago) link

is that like richard pinhas WITH wolf eyes or richard pinhas, wolf eyes opening?

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Friday, 15 June 2007 08:36 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't know about the dates with Wolf Eyes, but I understand the last bit to mean collaborative recording (NYC + MICHIGAN). Like, wow! The live dates aren't much use to me, sadly, but you kids all enjoy now.

I've been on a major Heldon/RP tip in the past few weeks ever since I got the singles comp, which is a superb primer of his work and really shows the evolution of his sound in great bite-size chunks - an awesome listen (esp. when driving at night!). The version of Telstar is one of the best things I've heard all year for sure. Get it while you can, as it's now sold out at source, but Forced Exposure still have copies.

myopic_void, Friday, 15 June 2007 09:46 (sixteen years ago) link

"Half a year until Dadaismus will be buying Yes box sets"

Three years now
-- Dadaismus (Dada), neljapäev, 12. Oktoober 2006

My oh my, doesn't time fly-ah?

Oh, and if that "new Pinhas" that Ned mentioned should be the Metetron two-fer, then some of that 's pretty gripping.

t**t, Friday, 15 June 2007 19:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Wolf Eyes + Pinhas collab has been in the works since last summer, looks like it's finally moving forward.

petey_carnum, Friday, 15 June 2007 19:25 (sixteen years ago) link

the Metetron two-fer

And indeed it is.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 June 2007 19:25 (sixteen years ago) link

or Metatron, even? :)

t**t, Friday, 15 June 2007 19:29 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Recent Richard Pinhas - sound art performance is a stunning listening experience !

on youtube: Richard Pinhas at Highways
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6dft_tfahw

djmartian, Sunday, 22 July 2007 22:58 (sixteen years ago) link

four months pass...

"iceland" sounds a lot like vangelis ca. blade runner. maybe they were using similar equipment? but the compositional style is similar too.

amateurist, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 04:10 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

I am listening to "Chaos Line" -- is the rest of Keio Line as lushly Fenneszy and beautiful?

Leee, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 04:53 (fifteen years ago) link

The title track of Interface about did me in on my bus ride this morning. What a kick ass tune.

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 07:24 (fifteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

Interface. Just... wow.

One of those 19 minute tracks you wish was 90 min.

I've only just discovered how much bands like Trans Am sound like these guys. Wow.

girls just wanna have mixtapes (Masonic Boom), Friday, 18 September 2009 11:30 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Pinhas solo records are great for winter. L'Ethique and Chronolyse soundtracking gray days in the bay, and also kicking a lot of ass!!!!

Dominique, Sunday, 13 December 2009 03:17 (fourteen years ago) link

eh Dominique, last I went to sleep listening to Iceland and this morning I woke up with Chronolyse. Winter is indeed arrived!

Marco Damiani, Sunday, 13 December 2009 11:59 (fourteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

discovered him last week

this is gonna be my next musical obsession afaict

tldr swinton (nakhchivan), Sunday, 5 December 2010 02:20 (thirteen years ago) link

I think the Patrick Gauthier solo album is really worth checking out if you like Heldon! I like it better than Pinhas's solo stuff .

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Sunday, 5 December 2010 02:22 (thirteen years ago) link

amazed that he has done a disco version of telstar and records with ~gilles deleuze~ and he doesn't have a wikipedia page in his own name

tldr swinton (nakhchivan), Sunday, 5 December 2010 02:32 (thirteen years ago) link

was a student of deleuze, had a really cool conversation with him about music in which deleuze was just an old snobby jerk when pinhas was trying to big up fripp and shit. i wrote about it but like fuck is anyone reading that. go here: http://www.webdeleuze.com/php/texte.php?cle=5&groupe=Anti%20Oedipe%20et%20Mille%20Plateaux&langue=2

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 5 December 2010 02:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Pinhas put out a 2CD set this year, Metal/Crystal, with Merzbow and Wolf Eyes on it. It's great. I reviewed it for The Wire but I don't think the review's run yet.

that's not funny. (unperson), Sunday, 5 December 2010 03:09 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i gotta get that, hope review is in wire e.o.y. issue

joe meek >>> deleuze >>>> merzbow

20th century yall

tldr swinton (nakhchivan), Sunday, 5 December 2010 03:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Agreeing with unperson, in fact I just submitted my AMG review for it -- his collaborators (both tour band and the guests) are excellent throughout but Pinhas's work is of course the core and it's just lovely as well as harrowing in equal measure.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 5 December 2010 03:19 (thirteen years ago) link

!!! I did not know about this!
Maybe Santa will know what to bring me now.

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Sunday, 5 December 2010 03:22 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah it's good, we got it in at my radio station.

sleeve, Sunday, 5 December 2010 03:24 (thirteen years ago) link

L'Ethique (from 1982) is the shit, features several Magma alumni plus Deleuze on a couple of tracks :

http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/002/351/0000235121_350.jpg

Satantango! (Matt #2), Sunday, 5 December 2010 13:40 (thirteen years ago) link

The first time I ever listened to the John Peel show was when he played Alain Renaud's "Back and In", which I believe has a RPinhas production credit.

Mark G, Monday, 6 December 2010 10:03 (thirteen years ago) link

unperson's review has already run in the wire, i remember reading it

Ward Fowler, Monday, 6 December 2010 10:07 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

iceland is a stunner. deep, gorgeous, and really quite different than the arpeggioed frippery on his other albums from that era. (the ones I've heard, anyway.)

also, "iceland (part2)" sounds pretty similar to the terminator theme to my ears. not a bad thing!

original bgm, Monday, 10 January 2011 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Merzdon - Heldow Kills Animal K

<3

nakhchivan, Saturday, 15 January 2011 05:46 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Loving this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl5UIeGpyvc

Satantango! (Matt #2), Friday, 18 February 2011 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Pinhas worth seeing live in 2011 Y/N?

Has anyone seen him perform recently? What should I expect if I go?

deez m'uts (La Lechera), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link

relevance

eid orb (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 19:21 (thirteen years ago) link

wall of sound guitar noise-soundscapes, usually accompanied by projected visuals. If the sound at the venue is good, can be pretty gorgeous

Dominique, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 19:21 (thirteen years ago) link

nb ive not seen RP but i nonetheless believe him to be relevant on account of his wondrous albums

eid orb (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Sounds pretty great. The venue is kind of weird and I didn't think it booked shows like this, but I guess it does. Will be best if I can get a seat, I imagine.

deez m'uts (La Lechera), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link

is he playing solo or with others? I saw him play with members of Wolf Eyes back in September, and it was pretty intense and loud.

sarahel, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link

five months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSc1AojeTbE

nakhchivan, Friday, 28 October 2011 19:28 (twelve years ago) link

I absolutely adore Pinhas/Heldon!! What a group, what a concept! I want more sci-fi cyborg prog, I really do. All the albums up through East/West are worthwhile although it's true I haven't heard anything after that. East/West is half good. Interface, Stand By and Rhizosphere Live Paris are my favorites. Killer drumming. I actually have been practicing drums to sequencers since getting into this band and it's a heck of a lot of fun but so easy to fuck up and train wreck. Infinite respect. I always wonder how the hell this group managed to be professionals/full time. Only in France, only in the 70s I guess. Maybe the novelty of giant moog modulars and the (very) distant relationship to groups like Tangerine Dream gave them a boost?!

liam fennell, Friday, 28 October 2011 21:16 (twelve years ago) link

he's doing a brief US tour

not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Sunday, 15 September 2013 20:11 (ten years ago) link

- September 14 – October 3, 2013 -
Richard Pinhas North American mini-tour
– performances in Canada & USA –

2013 NORTH AMERICAN TOUR
Sept. 14
Stanford,
California
KZSU 90.1 FM
(radio station at Stanford University)
Listen Live

Richard Pinhas
Radio appearance
Sept. 15
San Francisco,
California
San Francisco Electronic Music Festival
Brava Theater Center
2781 24th St. (at York)
San Francisco, CA

Richard Pinhas
8 pm

Sept. 18
Sacramento,
California
Bows and Arrows
1815 19th St. Sacramento, CA 916.822.5668
Richard Pinhas
with Barry Cleveland

Sept. 19
Oakland,
California
Duende
468 29th St.
Oakland, CA
www.duendeoakland.com

Richard Pinhas
with Barry Cleveland
Sept. 27
Cleveland,
Ohio
Negative Space
3820 Superior Ave. East Cleveland, OH 216.485.3195 Richard Pinhas
Sept. 28 Erie,
Pennsylvania
Performing Artists Collective Alliance
1505 State Street
Erie, PA 16501

Richard Pinhas
Sept. 29
Oberlin,
Ohio
Oberlin College Music Conservatory
"Room C25"
77 W College St
Oberlin, OH 44074 Richard Pinhas with Aaron Dilloway
Oct. 1 Brooklyn,
NY St. Vitus
1120 Manhattan Ave. Brooklyn, NY Richard Pinhas
with Aaron Dilloway
Oct. 2 Pittsburgh,
Pennsylvania Brillobox
4104 Penn. Ave. Pittsburgh, PA 412.621.4900 Richard Pinhas
with Aaron Dilloway
Oct. 3 Washington D.C.
Sonic Circuits Festival
Atlas Performing Arts Center
1333 H Street NE
Washington D.C.

Richard Pinhas
7:30 pm

not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Sunday, 15 September 2013 20:16 (ten years ago) link

the sfemf logo reminds me of the zodiac logo

Lama Bloody SwagYurt (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Sunday, 15 September 2013 20:20 (ten years ago) link

richard pinhas still doesn't have a wikipedia article after all these years

Lama Bloody SwagYurt (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Sunday, 15 September 2013 20:21 (ten years ago) link

someone in ohio loves him eh?
guess this means flying into cleveland instead of chicago :(

no fomo (La Lechera), Sunday, 15 September 2013 21:00 (ten years ago) link

eleven months pass...

new rp / tatsuya lp is good

Nothing less than the Spirit of the Age (nakhchivan), Saturday, 30 August 2014 04:25 (nine years ago) link

five months pass...

"circulus vitiosus"

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 13 February 2015 00:26 (nine years ago) link

Have got "Interface", interesting record, very relenteless and claustrophobic - if this is Prog Rock then it's a pity British Prog Rock is never this good
― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, October 10, 2003 3:11 PM

getting into these guys lately - "interface", "stand by" and pinhas' "chronolyse" in particular

tayto fan (Michael B), Friday, 13 February 2015 00:46 (nine years ago) link

"aurore" is melting my mind right now. fuck

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 13 February 2015 01:18 (nine years ago) link

Interface/Stand By are such a devastating 1-2 punch.

totally unachievable goals and no incentive to compromise (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 13 February 2015 01:30 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

"circulus vitiosus"

― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 13 February 2015 00:26 (2 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

LMAO. GOLD Chrisso. regards, REB (nakhchivan), Saturday, 25 April 2015 15:17 (nine years ago) link

that was a pretty key track for me when I used to make weird dj mixes that shifted genres every 15 seconds

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Saturday, 25 April 2015 18:48 (nine years ago) link


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