william basinski - is this the best ambient/drone stuff around or what?

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Maybe Masonna is a fan, and someone thought there was a typo.

libcrypt, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 15:35 (sixteen years ago) link

I also really love the "River" double CD, I think Raster-Noton put it out. But it's all good.

sleeve, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 22:56 (sixteen years ago) link

which disintegration loops vol. is best? i'm about to give the first one a go

am0n, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 03:23 (sixteen years ago) link

i wish he would record under "Z-Man"

circa1916, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 07:15 (sixteen years ago) link

am0n, having only heard vols I & II I'd recommend the latter. Its "DLP3" is really haunting/captivating.

willem, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 07:30 (sixteen years ago) link

i got all four. loving them. the second track on II is the shit, the comment upthread about SAW II #19 on repeat is apt

am0n, Monday, 28 May 2007 22:37 (sixteen years ago) link

that would be loop 3. bliss.

willem, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 08:56 (sixteen years ago) link

I suppose non-drone music is anthropomorphic, in that it has a beginning, a middle, and an end.

Rich Smörgasbord, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 09:32 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

who among us is enjoying El Camino Real?

Tape loop, recorded live, Los Angeles, July 2006.
First 300 copies came numbered and signed.

Want (and want to have been there)

jergïns, Sunday, 15 July 2007 00:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah I could totally fall asleep listening to this.

ledge, Sunday, 15 July 2007 16:21 (sixteen years ago) link

(I gave up on falling asleep to The Disintegration Loops 'cause they're a bit too melancholic.)

ledge, Sunday, 15 July 2007 16:27 (sixteen years ago) link

word

am0n, Thursday, 26 July 2007 00:56 (sixteen years ago) link

totally.

Drooone, Thursday, 26 July 2007 01:39 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

El Camino Real is some incredible stuff.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 14 September 2007 22:19 (sixteen years ago) link

When did this come out? Info? Link?

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 14 September 2007 22:35 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.mmlxii.com/home/home.html

May this year.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 14 September 2007 22:37 (sixteen years ago) link

El Camino Real

jergïns, Friday, 14 September 2007 22:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Gotta hear it. Was slightly disappointed with Shortwavemusic.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 14 September 2007 22:43 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

To answer the thread title question: fuck yes! That's why I'm absolutely psyched for this, out on april 20th:

http://www.mmlxii.com/NEW-ISSUES-2K9.gif

Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 16 April 2009 18:26 (fifteen years ago) link

And yes it is, indeed, fucking gorgeous. Is the love for Basinski really that marginal on ilm?

Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 16 April 2009 23:35 (fifteen years ago) link

No. I love the Disintegration Loops. There's a poll-thread devoted to those discs. If I remember that thread correctly, Ned is a big Basinski fan, too (but he hardly needs me to speak for him).

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 16 April 2009 23:46 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah i think that poll might be longer than this thread even!

i've loved most everything i've heard by him
disintegration loops
melancholia
silent night
el camino real

all A+

listen to it...put yourself in los angeles (winston), Thursday, 16 April 2009 23:52 (fifteen years ago) link

He opened up for Antony last month. Great stuff.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 16 April 2009 23:52 (fifteen years ago) link

I also really love the "River" double CD, I think Raster-Noton put it out. But it's all good.

― sleeve, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 22:56 (1 year ago)

sleeve, Friday, 17 April 2009 03:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Ah, this guy.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Saturday, 25 April 2009 03:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Anyone got or heard the new one?

krakow, Saturday, 25 April 2009 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link

i have 92982, its v good

Dr. Phil, Saturday, 25 April 2009 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link

What's the new one, Krakow?

I haven't listened to Basinski in a while, but I really like what I have of him. I've only one Disintegration Loop (no. III) cos it would have been very pricey to buy them all at the time. Does anyone know where to get the others reasonably cheaply? are they still available? some sort of box would be perfect.
I also really like Movement in Chrome Primitive and The River. I have a vinyl-only release, A Red Score in Tile which is similar in style to the Chrome Primitive stuff. Then I have Melancholia, and a split with Richard Chartier, to which have In't really given enough time.

There were a few other Musex releases, such as Water Music I and II -- has anyone heard them?

Duke, Saturday, 25 April 2009 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link

erm... should read thread properly. So the new one is 92982. He says a shorter version of track 3 was included as variation #8 on A movement in chrome primitive, so I can imagine I'll like this one

Duke, Saturday, 25 April 2009 21:57 (fourteen years ago) link

oh God please keep this thread going; I completely adore The Disintegration Loops (to the point of buying everything of Basinski's still available - my favorite so far is the River, although the new one is pretty good too) and I'm such a sucker for anything even evoking a comparison.

anyway in the meantime, I've been enjoying this:

http://deletedscenesforgottendreams.blogspot.com/2009/03/st-kilda-st-kilda-ep.html

as a sort of Cliff's Notes to the Disintegration Loops. v v v v v v pretty. I was happy to buy it.

jamescobo, Sunday, 26 April 2009 11:02 (fourteen years ago) link

It started with the Disintegration Loops set for me as well, and have also bought everything still available. My possible favorite is El Camino Real, but he really hasn't made a mediocre record. 'The Garden of Brokenness´ is gorgeous as well. Hard to single one out, his whole output has been fantastic.
The new one sounds great, but I´ve yet to take the time to fully dive into it. I won´t be dissapointed though, I know that for a fact.

Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 26 April 2009 11:13 (fourteen years ago) link

I haven't listened to Basinski in a while, but I really like what I have of him. I've only one Disintegration Loop (no. III) cos it would have been very pricey to buy them all at the time. Does anyone know where to get the others reasonably cheaply?

eMusic.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 26 April 2009 11:23 (fourteen years ago) link

How about in a physical (CD) format for less than $20 each?

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Sunday, 26 April 2009 14:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Thanks to this thread, I had to pull out "Disintegration Loops" and have been, um, looping dlp5 for half of the afternoon. So much for my day. Thanks you guys (=it was a beautiful day).

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 26 April 2009 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link

@ilxor try this guy on eBay http://stores.shop.ebay.co.uk/TWO-HEADEDDOG__W0QQ_sidZ273089502?_nkw=basinski&submit=Search

I've bought from him several times and he's totally spot on ("an excellent seller A++++++" etc.). Usually has a few Basinksi titles in stock for the best prices I can find and could probably get others if asked.

krakow, Monday, 27 April 2009 22:21 (fourteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

Another new one out now from Basinski. Not heard it yet, will wait for it to filter through to the usual channels, but here's the link and Basinski's write-up:

http://www.mmlxii.com/music/music.html

Vivian & Ondine
Catalog#: 2062.0902

Price: $20.00
CD 45:10. Release date: December 2009

"...I got back to work and found yet another lunchbox of ancient tape-loops to go through for possible inclusion in the new piece. I came across the main theme and thought...well, this is gorgeous; let's see if we can use this to coax Viv to come out. I went through the rest of them and found another dozen or so that mixed well used randomly, just under the threshold.

"The next night I performed the piece at Issue with their 16 channel hemispherical speaker system set to move the sounds randomly around the room as if waves in a pool. We all had a really good time. It was mesmerizing."

This version was recorded with microphones and two Norelco tape decks live in my studio in Los Angeles in one take in September 2008.

krakow, Friday, 4 December 2009 14:32 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

^sounds like a lot of his other work but that's not a bad thing. another dreamy single track, this one 45 minutes

ra (ramon cora), Thursday, 4 February 2010 00:11 (fourteen years ago) link

just got the first one and it's woooow

dyao, Thursday, 4 February 2010 12:02 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm excited to hear this!! I only have the four Disintegration Loops and I love all of them. I used to work at this all night cafe and around 4 the place would clear out and I would play these as I would mop and clean up. I miss jobs where I could play music late at night.

Jacob Sanders, Thursday, 4 February 2010 12:34 (fourteen years ago) link

available on emusic, btw

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 4 February 2010 12:37 (fourteen years ago) link

holy shit that sounds like the best thing ever xp

dyao, Thursday, 4 February 2010 12:48 (fourteen years ago) link

distingeration loops 1 is shifted heavily towards the right channel in the mix, right? really hard to listen to on headphones.

99. The Juggalo Teacher (dyao), Sunday, 7 February 2010 12:47 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't think so, no

♖♕♖ (am0n), Sunday, 7 February 2010 18:19 (fourteen years ago) link

hmm it definitely seems right-shifted to me, even in the iTunes samples. (NB I would buy it from eMusic but they won't let me join because I'm currently living out-of-the-states)

99. The Juggalo Teacher (dyao), Monday, 8 February 2010 00:49 (fourteen years ago) link

i bought mine on Amazon Mp3 and it certainly sounds "right-shifted" to me

kshighway (ksh), Monday, 8 February 2010 00:50 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah I guess fixing it in post would be against the spirit of the enterprise. really wish I could just put it on on headphones and zone out though...

99. The Juggalo Teacher (dyao), Monday, 8 February 2010 00:54 (fourteen years ago) link

dyao technology

nsuomy (ramon cora), Monday, 8 February 2010 01:03 (fourteen years ago) link

(mine's not right-shifted btw)

nsuomy (ramon cora), Monday, 8 February 2010 01:03 (fourteen years ago) link

hee waaannnt it

99. The Juggalo Teacher (dyao), Monday, 8 February 2010 01:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Achieved something akin to Distintegrating Loops here, using two reel to reel machines feeding back on one another. Rather than the tape itself degrading though it's the signal being obliterated by the analogue recording process. Something like this is what makes tape so exciting to work with, it seems like a natural process.

http://automating.bandcamp.com/track/soundoffsound

Department of Epidemic Prevention and Water Purification (S-), Monday, 8 February 2010 03:47 (fourteen years ago) link

this Sparkle Division alb is really nice and features the late great Henry Grimes on the poignant Oh Henry. can't ask for more than that really.

calzino, Monday, 17 August 2020 14:42 (three years ago) link

I'm banned from using violent speak so I won't describe it as "kaleidoscopic"!

calzino, Monday, 17 August 2020 14:48 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

the sparkle division record is good. the other day i was watching lethal weapon 2 and thought "why don't people make more music that sounds like the soundtrack to lethal weapon 2" and lo

adam, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 16:18 (three years ago) link

thought this was going to be about the slight lamentations delay (LP pressing related, of course)

just another 3-pinnochio post by (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 16:24 (three years ago) link

idk how people listen to this stuff on LP, every time you really make progress toward achieving oneness with cosmic godhead you gotta get up and flip the fuckin record

adam, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 16:26 (three years ago) link

I never realized he was so queer and fabulous

https://mif.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/FEATURE-e1497260395653-650x397.jpg

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 16:29 (three years ago) link

he's in the new Wire and the first picture looks like one for the old men that look like lesbians thread. (and the others looks like iggy pop). not sure i'd seen a pic of him before.

koogs, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 17:26 (three years ago) link

that's the pic I was looking for! the poolside shot

another music group I'm in was laughing about this:

I was comfortable picturing Basinski as a man who made no effort to look cool and the new wire cover has him out here tryna be Bowie. Can't listen to his ambient sounds with same trust now. He is not committed to serenity and anonymity he is trying to be a rock star.

— Harmony Holiday (@Harmony_Holiday) October 19, 2020

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 17:34 (three years ago) link

also, he played saxophone on the 1980 LP by LA punk supergroup Black Randy & The Metrosquad!

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link

Basinski has the best publicity photos

brimstead, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 17:39 (three years ago) link

also, he played saxophone on the 1980 LP by LA punk supergroup Black Randy & The Metrosquad!

!!!

adam, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 18:05 (three years ago) link

and the name of that album is...

https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a0348063897_16.jpg

kites aren't fun (NickB), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 18:25 (three years ago) link

I never realized he was so queer and fabulous

A few years ago at The Lab in SF, he presented an all night sleepover where he would perform Out of Time Out of Mind (a few months prior to release) and then play back all of the Disintegration Loops for about 6 hours (event went from like 10pm to like 5am). Everyone brought comfy pillows and mattress pads and stuff, it was great.

But... I never had seen the dude before and when he walked out he was wearing a skin tight disco outfit made of either sequins or that disco fabric you see a lot and dark sunglasses. He was FABULOUS and definitely a ROCK STAR. He also spoke with a gay southern drawl too. Had no idea he was a Texan, gay and utterly and completely fabulous. I was basically like "holy shit I know nothing about you dude, but the music you make evokes a very different mood and personality than your physical self expression and I am definitely here for it".

octobeard, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 18:35 (three years ago) link


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