Rolling 2006 US Charts Thread

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--Young Jeezy's "Trap Star" is produced by Mr. Collipark (one of my favorites for his work with Ying Yang Twins) and is the best thing on the Young Jeezy album, and it's 73 with a bullet, but I don't think it's going to rise much higher, unfortunately.

there's a video for it, but I got the impression that Jeezy just really liked the song and wanted to shoot a video for it, and got to because he has a lot of pull at Def Jam right now. but right after it came out, a video for "My Hood" came out too, which I think is the 'real' single they're pushing right now, so yeah, I don't think "Trap Star" is going to climb much higher. I like it, although the spelling in the chorus ("I'm a T-R-A-P S-T-R") makes me think of Homer Simpson ("I am so smart, I am so smart, S-M-R-T, I mean S-M-A-R-T").

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Sunday, 29 January 2006 04:24 (eighteen years ago) link

> --Reviewer Chuck Taylor calls Ashlee Simpson "the day's most contrived pop star." I wonder if he thought of that idea himself.


If that's the same Chuck Taylor who's been writing for Billboard for the past few years, then I should point out that (a) he writes for a Top-40-centric crowd, and (b) he's wholeheartedly and non-chart-orientedly a huge fan of pop music, prefab or no. If he called her "contrived" it may well have been a compliment by his standards.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Sunday, 29 January 2006 04:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Is it me or is that MJB song totally boring?

And Blunt's takeover is the greatest insult to our nation's intelligence since Reality Bites. What the fuck.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Sunday, 29 January 2006 07:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm actually really enjoying the MJB. Not as much as I'm digging the Ne-Yo track "So Sick," but still enough reason to turn the radio back on.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Sunday, 29 January 2006 17:32 (eighteen years ago) link

If he called her "contrived" it may well have been a compliment by his standards.

It wasn't. He also called her a puppet, and basically said that she was too white to do dance funk. He was being a numbskull.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 30 January 2006 02:52 (eighteen years ago) link

is 'shake' on the hot latin charts yet? or was it (has it peaked yet?)?

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 30 January 2006 04:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Don't think it appeared, at least according to allmusic, which does show "My Humps" placing on the Latin charts. If all these Latin Urban stations are Univision owned, which I'm not at all sure is the case, could this "My Humps" phenomenon just be the whim of some national Univision programmer? I don't doubt the clientele likes the song, but other stuff is probably just as popular.


And as for this phenomenon, that was the year's major new release until the Strokes came out! We were looking at some lame laydown weeks for awhile there.

dr. phil (josh langhoff), Monday, 30 January 2006 14:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Most interesting to me is Ricky Nelson's Greatest Hits at number 56 on the albums chart.
oops... this phenomenon

dr. phil (josh langhoff), Monday, 30 January 2006 14:03 (eighteen years ago) link

and i should've said "other English language stuff is probably just as popular", though i don't offhand know what that might be... Rhianna?

dr. phil (josh langhoff), Monday, 30 January 2006 14:05 (eighteen years ago) link

"My Humps" is hitting big throughout Europe. This might not be relevant to the Latin charts; I don't know what the interplay is between the Spanish charts and the Latin charts (and I didn't write down "My Humps" place on the Spanish chart, and don't recall even if it charted).

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 30 January 2006 20:48 (eighteen years ago) link

billboard only has an albums list for spain, and black eyed peas aren't on there this week. the song is #11 on the "euro digital tracks" chart, #3 (behind "hung up" and mattafix's "big city life") on the euro singles sales chchart, not in the top 15 of the euro airplay chart. apparently it's hitting (#4) in norway, though.

xhuxk, Monday, 30 January 2006 21:24 (eighteen years ago) link

hahaha suck on that hongro!


hey slight digression but has anyone seen the source's (new i'm pretty sure, i seem to recall it saying 'premiere issue' or some such) reggaeton mag? tego calderon on the cover, it's in spanish - turn it around and flip it and it's in english! fuego (king magazine's new latin mag) is probably more my style for, um, personal reasons but i'm still curious.

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 05:19 (eighteen years ago) link

WTF just happened? 9 songs from the High School Musical soundtrack are on the chart. 7 of them are debuts (at high numbers: 28, 34, 35, 43, 62, 67, & 72), and one of the other two songs made the biggest leap in pop chart history (86-4). The last song climbed from 100 to 23. All off of strength of downloads. I've never even heard of this movie, soundtrack, or any of these songs until now. I'm mind-boggled.

"Check On It" is still #1, by the way.

R. J. Greene (R. J. Greene), Thursday, 2 February 2006 19:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Wow. I had no idea downloads were going to affect the chart this much. I noticed that they were all over the iTunes chart a couple weeks ago, though -- which is maybe what you should look at if you want to predict future chart positions.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 2 February 2006 19:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I think what's most interesting about it is that there's no real single when it comes to a musical soundtrack, and so people are just downloading the whole thing, apparently -- unguided by radio airplay. (Unless I'm mistaken -- but I haven't heard any of this stuff anywhere.) It also makes me think, though, that it's a very temporary phenomenon, and things will settle down again next week.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 2 February 2006 19:26 (eighteen years ago) link

>WTF just happened? 9 songs from the High School Musical soundtrack are on the chart. 7 of them are debuts (at high numbers: 28, 34, 35, 43, 62, 67, & 72), and one of the other two songs made the biggest leap in pop chart history (86-4)<

On what chart?? I have the new Billboard in front of me, looking at the Hot 100 chart,and I don't see any of those songs. Not noticing them on the Hot Digitial Songs chart either; where are you looking?

Latin chart "My Humps" fell to 49, still no other English language tunes. Album chart Matisyahu's live album jumps from 44 to 32, and it's been out a year; is his *real* album, which comes out next month I think, going to enter at #1? That will be so weird. Also on album chart Morningwood drops 102 to 169 after heavily promoted on TV first week; is "Nth Degree" actually gettting airply anywhere? It's not on a single singles chart in Billboard so -- maybe not a hit after all?

xhuxk, Thursday, 2 February 2006 20:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Ok, I see a High School Musical song at #86. So I guess I'm a week behind....Are these songs any good? Are any of them as good as "You're The One That I Want," or Irene Cara's song from *Fame*?

xhuxk, Thursday, 2 February 2006 20:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Do you think this means the American charts are becoming more suceptible to novelty songs with the addition of downloads. I'd hate to see our pop charts turn into the British ones. ...and just when it seems that the reason why the US charts suck has corrected itself.

R. J. Greene (R. J. Greene), Thursday, 2 February 2006 21:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Billboard has indicated a willingness to change its policies on charting singles for digital downloads with some regularity. So I won't be surprised to see something happen soon. Now, there's a bit of irony in this for those of us who were pissed that Billboard wouldn't include airplay-only hits in its Hot 100 singles chart for several years (up until 1999, I think). Where once an airplay hit could only chart if it had a commercial single available, my guess now is that a forthcoming policy will be than a download hit can only chart if it has commercial airplay.

Just a guess, though. In the meantime, this is one of the more interesting singles charts I've seen in a while, s'far as big movements; and I like it.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Thursday, 2 February 2006 23:10 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm pretty ignorant as to how Itunes works, but when people download a whole album does it count also count as 'singles' sales for the push tracks? Cuz if you decide that several songs qualify, you could easily ambush a chart like this.

Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 2 February 2006 23:15 (eighteen years ago) link

>Do you think this means the American charts are becoming more suceptible to novelty songs with the addition of downloads. I'd hate to see our pop charts turn into the British ones.<

I don't pay attention to the British charts, but since when don't novelty songs make pop charts *more* fun? Seems to me like something to stive for!

xhuxk, Thursday, 2 February 2006 23:24 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm pretty ignorant as to how Itunes works, but when people download a whole album does it count also count as 'singles' sales for the push tracks? Cuz if you decide that several songs qualify, you could easily ambush a chart like this.

But my guess is that not enough people are using iTunes to download whole albums -- which is why I speculated that this was sort of an anomalous case: a soundtrack that has gotten huge TV exposure among a young audience but lacks a specific single, so kids are downloading everything. They've already seen all of the songs performed on TV, anyway, so they know what they're getting when they download what might be considered a deep cut on any other pop album.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 2 February 2006 23:34 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, I had no idea about whether or not people use Itunes for albums, but that makes sense.

Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 2 February 2006 23:51 (eighteen years ago) link

do any of the radio chart shows use billboard or more specifically the hot 100 for their chart? it seems like definitely the one that kasem did and then shadoe stevens took over did. i know many use their own vaugely conceived chart cuz they don't have the rights to billboards or they need to specifically target their market more and that an all hip-hop top ten one week is gonna throw em off the rails.

j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 3 February 2006 01:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Kasem/Stevens was def. Billboard -- otherwise I wouldn't have cared about it as much as I did, probably.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 3 February 2006 02:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Kasem switched to adult contemporary shit soon after "Baby Got Back"

Zwan (miccio), Friday, 3 February 2006 02:22 (eighteen years ago) link

actually I got that wrong, if the wikipedia entry is valid.

Zwan (miccio), Friday, 3 February 2006 02:25 (eighteen years ago) link

I know I've read that "Baby Got Back" was a big turning point for all this.

Zwan (miccio), Friday, 3 February 2006 02:26 (eighteen years ago) link

A 5-2 surge for "You're Beautiful" (Custard/Atlantic) on the Billboard Hot 100 makes James Blunt the first U.K. artist to reach the top two since Elton John in 1997-98. "Candle in the Wind 1997" / "Something About the Way You Look Tonight" is the last U.K. single to peak in the top two.

As I predicted, all the High School Musical songs take a big tumble this week.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 9 February 2006 20:00 (eighteen years ago) link

barry manilow's number one album (or was that last week?)

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 9 February 2006 20:04 (eighteen years ago) link

As scared as I was of D4L going to #1, I'm twice as terrified of Blunt. What kind of lesson is this going to send to the kids?

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 9 February 2006 22:58 (eighteen years ago) link

No, I think Manilow is this week. Man, imagine the double whammy of Manilow and Blunt at #1 album and single.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 9 February 2006 23:01 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm more worried that the #5 song in the nation is called "I'm N Luv (Wit a Stripper)."

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Friday, 10 February 2006 03:54 (eighteen years ago) link

I still can't believe that song exists. I hope it stays at #1 for seven weeks.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Friday, 10 February 2006 04:14 (eighteen years ago) link

The main top 40 station in Chicago made a big deal over the fact that they were playing the "stripper" version of the song; on another station I heard, he's in love with a dancer.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 February 2006 05:34 (eighteen years ago) link

I still haven't actually heard the song; NYC radio hasn't taken to it yet AFAIK. Is it as vocodored as "I'm Sprung"? Is it really worth hearing, or is it just novelty like that "Fuck It, I Don't Want You Back" song?

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Friday, 10 February 2006 15:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Miranda Lambert still has her bullet on the albums chart, but Little Big Town have lost theirs (owing to terrible choice for second single, perhaps) (mark s, notice use of the word "owing").

I have so far not heard James Blunt. I am sure I have a treat in store.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 10 February 2006 15:13 (eighteen years ago) link

The excellent Jamie O'Neal once rhymed "stripper" and "tip her."

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 10 February 2006 15:15 (eighteen years ago) link

"Since U Been Gone" still among Top 50 digital downloads, "My Humps" retains digital bullet. Blunt at number one, Zac at 4, Ash rising to 8 despite falling on all other charts. (When sales clobber airplay, always significant of something or other.)

Young Jeezy "Trap Star" number 11 ringtone, peaked number 6! Holy fucking shit! "My Humps" still ringing at number 2; "Candy Shop" in top ten. Mancini at 15 and Lynyrd Skynyrd at 21. Ash not top 40 in the phones but big advertising push to give the gift of "L.O.V.E." on Valentine's Day, which is ironic given that in the lyrics girl friendship love trumps failure of girl-boy thing. That part won't make it to ringtone, however.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 10 February 2006 15:43 (eighteen years ago) link

There's some subtle vocoder action on "Stripper" but not to the extent of "I'm Sprung." The song itself is just okay.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 February 2006 15:50 (eighteen years ago) link

B5 "Keep Your Head in the Game" (which I have never heard) got the most spins - 76 - last week on Radio Disney. Bowling for Soup haters will be encouraged by the news that "1985" dropped from 73 spins to 71 spins, moving it down to eighth place. Between eight and nine ("Beautiful Soul") you get a drastic dropoff: 71 spins for "1985," 35 for "Beautiful Soul."

"Stripper" not yet getting played on Radio Disney.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 10 February 2006 16:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Selective, relatively subtle vocodor, just to add vibrato. Also has pennywhistle, to acknowledge the Irish influence on r&b.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 10 February 2006 17:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Most played video on Launch Yahoo, by the way.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 10 February 2006 17:51 (eighteen years ago) link

My hope is that "Be Without You" is the next #1. My suspicion is that it will be either "You're Beautiful" or "I'm N Luv (Wit A Stripper)". There will probably be a new #1 next week as "Check On It" has lost its bullet.

Englebert Humperdinck Fan Club President (R. J. Greene), Friday, 10 February 2006 20:39 (eighteen years ago) link

"I'm in Luv (Wit a Stripper)" >>>>> "Be Without You" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "You're Beautiful"

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Friday, 10 February 2006 20:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, at any rate, I'd rather it was "Stripper" than "You're Beautiful".

Englebert Humperdinck Fan Club President (R. J. Greene), Friday, 10 February 2006 21:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Is anything from the Grammy telecast being rush-released as an iTunes single? That could impact next week's chart in unexpected ways. But probably not.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Friday, 10 February 2006 21:24 (eighteen years ago) link

I wouldn't be surprised if that Jay-Z/LP/Paul McCartney track debuted in the top 40 next week.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Friday, 10 February 2006 21:45 (eighteen years ago) link

"Trap Star" is 66 on the r&b/hip-hop chart but is not in the Hot 100. Any speculation as to why that's the one that's getting the ringtones? (I mean, it's a great song, but usually people choose the hits.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 11 February 2006 04:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, I notice that there aren't a lot of nonblacks in the singles Top Ten: Blunt, Bedingfield, and Eminem (who's very much the exception that proves the rule anyway, esp. w/ Nate Dogg on board), and Paul Wall in a supporting role on "Grillz" (ditto the Eminem comment). Maybe there are a few more nonblacks in creative roles behind the scenes (Scott Storch produces some of Chris Brown's, but isn't on "Yo" as far as I know), but then again, maybe there aren't. I don't even see any Hispanics.

Also, not to get self-righteous or anything, but the Grammys don't seem to get it, do they?

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 11 February 2006 04:29 (eighteen years ago) link

JT repeats at #1 with "My Love." Lady Sovereign up to #45.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 November 2006 00:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Who the fuck is Hinder?

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Friday, 10 November 2006 01:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Remember Finger Eleven? Neither does anyone else.

But at least Hinder got an entertaining review from AMG's Johnny Loftus (love the closing line):

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:llud6j6471l0

Released in September 2005, Hinder's Extreme Behavior revives the simpleton riffs and stupid misogyny of 2001 albums from Puddle of Mudd and Nickelback for a whole new batch of undergrads. This isn't even post-grunge -- it's straight-up dude rock. The artwork is a triggered response collage of boobs, lingerie, and Jäger, and the music is so obvious that it actually recedes from the ear. Like a stereo left on in the keg room, it's just a chatter of swear words and tuneless electric guitar blab. Austin Winkler sounds like a drunk shouting along with Chad Kroeger, and his lyrics? "Let's go home and get stoned/Cause the sex is so much better when you're mad," "She said she's sorry/With one finger/I said fuck that," "She said she loved the taste of my oh oh oh" -- Winkler doesn't even have enough class to fake sounding cool. When Hinder and producer Brian Howes (he co-wrote every song with the band; Nickelback producer Joey Moi also gets a credit) do try a little tenderness, they sound like a bludgeoned Wallflowers ("Nothin' Good About Goodbye"), thudding power ballad torchbearers ("Lips of an Angel"; cue the soaring solo stolen from hair metal), or bumbling Guns N' Roses thieves (the played-out "Sweet Child" rewrite "Homecoming Queen"). Extreme Behavior can't even make it as rote hard rock -- it's too insulting to women and your intelligence. That's why it's dude rock instead. Hinder are so egregiously dull they appeal not to fans of music, but fans of high fives.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Friday, 10 November 2006 02:33 (seventeen years ago) link

wow, that is a great last line

What a weird band to be so popular at this point in time

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Friday, 10 November 2006 07:34 (seventeen years ago) link

curious, how did the new Nellie McKay do in the charts?

timmy tannin (pompous), Friday, 10 November 2006 07:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Yr 1-2-3 of JT, Akon featuring Atmosphere & MC Peepants are unchanged. Beyonce scoots up five slots to #4. "Show Me What You Got" must have come out on downloads or whatever. It leaps from #47 to #9. The rest of the top ten is looking mighty the same.

All-American Rejected rise 18-11, "Before He Cheats" 25-16, Akon & Snoop doing teh Phil Collins crunk 20-17, "BAAALLLIN!" 29-19, Keith Urban 53-31, Sugarland 42-32, Brad Paisley 54-35, Gwen Stefani's "A Very Special Tribute to Goat Sex" 40-36.

Ciara places "Promise" at #45. Pussycat Dolls, Nelly Furtado, Lloyd, Bowling For fucking Soup, & Alejandro Sanz also debut.

Rodney... (R. J. Greene), Friday, 17 November 2006 01:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Whoaaa... things done changed, friends. Where once Timberpants was 1-2 at the top, now Akon is instead, as 'I Wanna Love You' (cough) flies from 17 to 1, directly bypassing 'Smack That', which holds #2. Beyonce Calculates Your Credit Rating climbs to 3, as Timberbobs falls from 1 to 4, Fergie's 'Deeply Unsexy Chocolate' falls to 5 from 3, Hinder, Luda, and The Fray all get nudged down a slot, Snow Patrol hold 9, and Bow Wow climbs from 14 to 10, despite not being that good or anything.

Below, below: 'We Fly High' climbs to 16, 'Walk It Out' to 18. 'Waiting On The World To Change' has its habitual bit of inconsequential climbing - #22 from #27, if you're counting. Of larger consequence: 'Wind It Up' is up eleven to 25, 'Money In The Bank' is 29 from 37, Paula DeAnda's 'My Second Single Ever' is 30 from 43, 'Promise' is 34 from 45, and there's initial peeps into 50-land for KT Tunstall's 'Suddenly I See' (45 from 52 after nineteen weeks on), Fat Joe & Lil Wayne's 'Make It Rain' (47 from 55), and Cherish's 'Unappreciated' (50 from 57). Oh, and you know how the lead single off The Game's album was apparently 'It's Okay'? Apparently not - 'Let's Ride' shoots straight in at #46.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 23 November 2006 11:48 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
Revive!

HOW the FUCK did Incubus's new album get to number one on the Billboard charts a couple weeks ago?? Seriously, how did this happen?? Did Sandbox ILM ever have a thread about this?? This is just insane!!

Incubus?? Fucking INCUBUS?!?!? All I know about Incubus is they had that one hit "Drive" LIKE TEN FUCKING YEARS AGO!!!! And then all of a sudden they release the number one album in the country???? Zuh???

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 4 January 2007 00:36 (seventeen years ago) link

while you all were off giving undue attention to overhyped flashes in pans, real music by real musicians was being made for those who truly care, whose interest in the ever-developing talents of artists isn't dictated by blog hype.

Not that this explains why the fuck Incubus was number one, but I'm just sayin'

Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 4 January 2007 02:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Well Omarion was #1 last week with sales of 119,000 and leftover alterna-rockers certainly buy more full albums than most, so maybe these informations will help answer your question.

matt2 (matt2), Thursday, 4 January 2007 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

eight years pass...

Totally forgot that this was once a rolling thread. Would love to resurrect it.

Tove Lo Tove You Baby (jaymc), Saturday, 31 January 2015 04:52 (nine years ago) link

Funny how chart knowledge in 2006 was treated as this "wow, you're a real nerd" when like anyone now can just google "just timberlake discography."

Tove Lo Tove You Baby (jaymc), Saturday, 31 January 2015 05:02 (nine years ago) link

i do find it charming that ilm used to do this (long before i came here)

dyl, Saturday, 31 January 2015 06:06 (nine years ago) link


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