Beer in the new era

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drankin lately --

bear republic big bear stout -- A+ this bear was wonderful
goose island bourbon co. stout -- okay this was good but i don't think i'll be buying it again. too intense for ordinary drinking.
trader joe's mission street brown ale - good! cheap as heck! low abv so you can drink it all and not feel awful!
six point brownstone - this tastes sweeter and more cakey than i remember it. prob will not go out of my way to drink again

AND THIS THING --
http://easterndistrictny.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/pair1.jpg
which was amazing but not partic cheap, but i would buy again in a heartbeat. i might even go back to the store to get it even tho it's the wrong direction home. just to make sure they do not run out

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:15 (eleven years ago) link

right now i'm drinking a nice fresh ithaca flower power; love this beer.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:24 (eleven years ago) link

Too intense for ordinary drinking??? If I could buy enough I'd be ok drinking BCS as the only beer for the rest of my life.

Jeff, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:28 (eleven years ago) link

man, i split a bottle with my roommate and that was ENUFF for me. i would wind up blacked out all the time drinking that stuff.

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:31 (eleven years ago) link

o also i tried pretty things meadowlark IPA that was lovely.

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:34 (eleven years ago) link

ok - so here's what i got today. any thoughts on any of these? (the last 6 my wife picked out and are the fruitier/sweeter stuff):

Left Hand Milk Stout
Dogfish Head Raison D’Etre
Troegs Dreamweaver Wheat Beer
Troegs Dead Reckoning
Rodenbach
Hefeweizen UFO
Founders Brewing Breakfast Stout
Boulder Beer Sweaty Betty
Victory Festbier
Lagunitas Daytime
Lagunitas Little Sumpin’

Twisted Pine Raspberry Wheat
Shipyard Brewing Pumpkinhead
Blue Point Blueberry Ale
California Cider Company Ace Hard Pumpkin Cider
Samuel Smith Oatmeal Stout
Samuel Smith Organic Cider

the Lagunitas was highly recommended by the guy at the new beer place, so i'm pretty excited to try them out

Mordy, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 01:46 (eleven years ago) link

My thoughts are "are you willing to adopt me and let me live in your house?"

costly pussy riot (jjjusten), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 01:49 (eleven years ago) link

Rodenbach, founders, and both lagunitas are among my favorite beers

costly pussy riot (jjjusten), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 01:51 (eleven years ago) link

oh sweeeet now i'm really excited. no more bullshit watermelon beer for me!

Mordy, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 01:54 (eleven years ago) link

If you like the rodenbach, which is a sour, see if they have the cuvée de jacobins, which is the best sour in the world

costly pussy riot (jjjusten), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 01:55 (eleven years ago) link

i got a surprise 4-pack of bfast stout today, fuckin' love that beer

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 02:16 (eleven years ago) link

surprised I haven't seen more Troegs talk itt, friends in philly & points east hype it up a lot

D'anesh (dan m), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 03:19 (eleven years ago) link

Troegs Nugget Nectar is great and goes quick around here.

carne asada, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 03:32 (eleven years ago) link

i had the dead reckoning one tnite during the debate and i really liked it

Mordy, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 03:33 (eleven years ago) link

i had actually heard not great things about the troegs but it was really flavorful, very chocolate malty

Mordy, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 04:13 (eleven years ago) link

Deschutes is alright, I guess? I actually thought about buying one of their IPAs the other day as it's been ages, and I remember it being super bitter with not much else going on. Mirror Pond is a pretty good pale ale and is pretty ubiquitous at bars around here. Some of their one-offs have been alright, and I should really have another Hop Trip at some point.

Also I've only driven across Pennsylvania but hearing about the liquor laws there sounds like the most insane and maddening thing ever. Not being able to buy singles means I basically would never drink another beer as long as I lived, there's no way I could commit to 12 of anything in one shot.

joygoat, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 04:29 (eleven years ago) link

ok, so now i can buy singles OR buy cases (bc this new place opened up that sells singles). but if i buy singles i can only buy 12 singles at a time. they're not allowed to sell me aka 13 bottles. which isn't the worst thing in the world, but means that if i'm bringing beer to a party i need to buy cases not singles

Mordy, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 04:34 (eleven years ago) link

PA (well Philly in specific) is my second favorite place in America, but your liquor laws are fucking crazy.

costly pussy riot (jjjusten), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 04:45 (eleven years ago) link

i miss buying beer in the supermarket

Mordy, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 04:45 (eleven years ago) link

how far out do they distribute lagunitas? similar to deschutes or sierra nevada, they're affordable, delicious and ubiquitous on the west coast. lil' sumpin/lil' sumpin sumpin and brown shugga are amazing

akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 04:54 (eleven years ago) link

Got it here in mn, and oh man, the lucky 13 and hop stoopid are both world class imo

costly pussy riot (jjjusten), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 04:57 (eleven years ago) link

Also $4 for a bomber

costly pussy riot (jjjusten), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 04:58 (eleven years ago) link

xps rodenbach is a damn good sour beer - albeit in that very sweet, very belgian style.

my favorite sours tend to be the ones built out of darker beers... i had the upright oscar peterson over the weekend and it pulled this off incredibly well (one of the most drinkable sours i've ever tasted). similarly, cascade's bourbonic plague is pretty much my absolute favorite beer ever, maybe one of the sweetest cascade makes (which is still pretty sour tbh)

akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 05:11 (eleven years ago) link

i didn't realize they had lagunitas in mn! i've actually never had the lucky 13, i'll have to give it a shot

akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 06:02 (eleven years ago) link

...the cuvée de jacobins, which is the best sour in the world

True, but crazy expensive - $22 for four 12-oz bottles at the one place I've seen it. Whole Foods, but still. I only saw it there once, guess it didn't sell.

nickn, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 06:06 (eleven years ago) link

Alright I missed the 12 beers not necessarily of the same variety thing - I thought you bought like a gross of beers there or something. Having no choice but buy 12 singles at a time would sort of be awesome.

Hop Stoopid and Lil Sumpin are both really great and all over WA but both have such dumb names that I feel sort of ashamed when I buy them.

joygoat, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 06:25 (eleven years ago) link

I like sours a lot. Had an amazing sourish Berliner Style Weisse, Brettanomyces Lambicus Special Edition. So light and refreshing and only 3%. Not crazy sour, but just sour enough to compliment the style.

Jeff, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 11:50 (eleven years ago) link

Sours are the new thing, right? Looked at one way, it's a route the avant-gardists have found out of insane hopping but retaining the snese of the extreme?

At the De Molen beer festival the other week, all but one of the Mikkeller beers on offer were sours, and they were much in evidence elsewhere.

Tim, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 12:18 (eleven years ago) link

i feel like it's sort of a good and bad thing that Lagunitas is pretty much the default crafty beer all over the west coast.

carne asada, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 12:35 (eleven years ago) link

Suddenly noticed my strong predilection for hoppy ales (maybe due to changing lunchtime pubs from a fullers pub with the bog standard fullers selections to one with ten different cask beers available every day). Harviestoun Wild Hop IPA going down a treat.

ledge, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 13:06 (eleven years ago) link

Where's the ten-cask place nr yr work, Tom?

Tim, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 13:07 (eleven years ago) link

Doggett's. Always wrote it off as a very large (ie not cosy) and uninspiring joint but the ale selection (and they seem to be well kept) has definitely improved its prospects.

ledge, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 13:12 (eleven years ago) link

That's interesting - it's a Nicholson's house (or was last time I looked) and I haven't come across one of those having anything other than a very pedestrian (though usually well-kept) selection.

Tim, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 13:13 (eleven years ago) link

Still is Nicholson's, I don't know if it's an improvement across the chain or peculiar to this one place.

ledge, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 13:15 (eleven years ago) link

Re: Lagunitas, they're pretty one- note IMO, all their hoppy beers taste the same, and their lineup skews towards the hops. That said, for the price, you usually get good stuff. Little Sumpin' Wild is pretty awesome. And you can't beat 5 bucks for a bomber of Hop Stoopid. However, I drank a good portion of a 6er of Maximus one time right before a bout of wretched food poisoning.

Hop Trip is awesome! Chasin' Freshies is another Deschutes wet hop, don't expect an IPA and you'll like it.

My Jamil's Evil Twin kit is taking forever to carbonate, moved it upstairs where it's warmer, hope the hop taste doesn't fade in the meantime. Brewed up a new batch of my Witbier, experimented with a partial mash, added 1lb of flaked oats and 1 lb pilsener malt. We'll see how this one goes.

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 13:16 (eleven years ago) link

(the point being that I can never touch Maximus again due to Pavlovian association with violent, repeated vomiting)

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 13:17 (eleven years ago) link

can't wait to try this
http://hensley.com/media/124373/Narwhal%20Header_613x350.jpg

carne asada, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 13:50 (eleven years ago) link

ok - so here's what i got today. any thoughts on any of these? (the last 6 my wife picked out and are the fruitier/sweeter stuff):

I don't drink a lot of stouts, but the Left Hand and the Founders are both quite good. I like Dogfish Raison d'Etre -- complex and strong -- but it's not much of a session beer. The Lagunitas ones are solid. (Daytime is their low-ABV IPA -- a style I predict we'll be seeing more of. Founders has one, too.) The only other one I've had is the Hefeweizen UFO -- didn't think much of it, but then I haven't really liked any of Harpoon's beers.

Sandy Denny Real Estate (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 14:10 (eleven years ago) link

i didn't realize they had lagunitas in mn!

IIRC, they're fairly widespread, and are bound to be even more so, since they're currently building a brewery in Chicago to help w/distribution.

Sandy Denny Real Estate (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 14:13 (eleven years ago) link

Taste test of the "White House Honey Ale", Obama's home brew:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/17/dining/reviews/a-white-house-beer-we-can-believe-in.html?hpw

o. nate, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 14:33 (eleven years ago) link

ha its really how quickly the yay of news that the white house was brewing shifted to noooooo when i heard that they were doing a honey ale.

costly pussy riot (jjjusten), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 15:12 (eleven years ago) link

that nyt article is pretty gushy for what looks like a straight-up brown ale made with malt extract and honey.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link

well its the nyt what do you expect. i think its basically being complimentary towards homebrewing as a concept more than anything

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link

Drank last night:

Lucid Foto, decent IPA, nothing remarkable.

Clown Shoes Brewing Eagle Claw Fist (I know, the names!) This is an odd one, billed as imperial amber ale on the menu; ratebeer calls it a strong ale. Dark reddish, with malt and whiskey notes, still extremely hoppy at 100 IBU.

Did not try New Belgium Peach Porch Lounger but wanted to, despite my aversion to fruit beer and G. Love, whom the name apparently references, because holy hell: peaches, hominy grits, molasses and lemon peel, all funked up with pale and biscuit malts in a saison for sipping. In three-part harmony enters a healthy dose of Brettanomyces to bring tropical, citrus flavors and bold, sweet nose.

Sex Kitten mind control slave (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

had the new belgium porch lounger a few weeks back on the night of a thousand sours and it was pretty unremarkable unfortunately

costly pussy riot (jjjusten), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link

New Belgium had an ancho chile ale there (Happy Gnome) too; maybe they're getting a little overambitious.

Sex Kitten mind control slave (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

tried this one for the first time this weekend, was kind of amazing
http://www.boulevard.com/BoulevardBeers/the-sixth-glass/

tylerw, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link

I like the Peach Porch Lounger, but it def sounds more amazing than it actually is.

Sandy Denny Real Estate (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link

Has anyone had the Ska cocoa mole stout? Almost bought a sixer the other day but wasn't sure.

Sandy Denny Real Estate (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link

Drank last night:

Lucid Foto, decent IPA, nothing remarkable.

Clown Shoes Brewing Eagle Claw Fist (I know, the names!) This is an odd one, billed as imperial amber ale on the menu; ratebeer calls it a strong ale. Dark reddish, with malt and whiskey notes, still extremely hoppy at 100 IBU.

Did not try New Belgium Peach Porch Lounger but wanted to, despite my aversion to fruit beer and G. Love, whom the name apparently references, because holy hell: peaches, hominy grits, molasses and lemon peel, all funked up with pale and biscuit malts in a saison for sipping. In three-part harmony enters a healthy dose of Brettanomyces to bring tropical, citrus flavors and bold, sweet nose.

― Sex Kitten mind control slave (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, October 17, 2012 11:16 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Was this at Muddy Waters? I haven't seen Clown Shoes anywhere else on tap. Although they were listed on Muddy Water's taplist last week even though they hadn't tapped the keg yet. Also Lucid is some nasty shit. the only beer I've had with lemon was Stone's 16th anniversary and it was godawful/nasty shit.

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link


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