BORDERLANDS - like Fallout 3 but with cars and MAXIMUM PWNAGE OMGWTFLOLNEWB FPS combat

bought the season pass for this, i want to play it forever.

Pirate DLC is great btw, could have easily gone with reskinned enemies (and there's a little of that) but mostly its new feeling content, some great variations on the theme - much like the zombie island of dr ned from the first one, its a totally worthwhile download and looks like it might clock in at 10 hours or so if you do all the side missions. do not attempt before level fifteen or u will get mercilessly pwned.

one HUGE improvement in this over the original is everything involved with vehicles and vehicular combat

just got an xbox and this game kind of turned me around on the whole FPS phenom

the first one or #2?

#2

I've played FPS games before but never could get too into them, borderlands was on some 5am MUST DEFEAT GIANT SPACE CATERPILLAR tip

yeah, it def raises the bar for FPS stuff, but mostly by grabbing good ideas from outside the genre (in particular RPG stuff). the whole loot management and character path stuff really saves it - also i know the bagazillions of guns tagline seems stupid on the surface, but it works brilliantly.

playthrough seems well designed in that it's a good mix of challenging but not too challenging - if you're good and want to be aggressive you can go buck wild, if you need to puss out and lick yr wounds for a while it doesn't penalize that approach.

played dishonored for a while and there were some scraps I got into that there was no way out of.

i pretty much wrote off dishonored because stealth is not my thing, mainly because it frustrates me and i am terrible at it.

and tho I haven't played all the way through there's been nothing gross about it, the cartoonish style combined w/ real physics is a treat

idk there could be 30 games on the market just like this but I get the sense that's not true

I'm ok with stealth but I got in situations where I stopped being stealthy in error and then couldn't revert back to a stealth style and slip away, like the game was punishing me for my audacity

borderlands was on some 5am MUST DEFEAT GIANT SPACE CATERPILLAR tip

― space dokken (Edward III), Wednesday, October 31, 2012 1:03 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sooooo B2 just came out for mac, and i bought it, and i was up until 4am last night. like, first time in a really really really long time that i checked the time and was like "omg what the fuck happened" i thought it was maaaaaaybe 1am

it is gaming season

I bought this like two months ago for PS3 specifically so I could co-op it with a friend and then we never got around to playing until this weekend. Wish I hadn't waited so long - it is a HELL of a lot of fun. I'm playing as a gunzerker, my buddy is an assassin and the balance between the two character classes seems perfect.

didn't really like the 1st one on ps3 but playing through 2 on pc is really fun. anyone else on pc want to co op? my steam thing is hexenduction

I havent been able to pick this back up because playing solo as the assassin is soooooooooooo boring

i havent tried the assassin on SP, but i can see where it might be a little eh. gunzerker is pretty good, and mechromancer is awesome, but that might be DLC iirc

I'm enjoying gunzerking, progressing pretty slowly though, these checkpoints are bloody unreliable. I've had a couple of occasions where I've started a new session and found the last hour of play's been undone. Would be much happier if it'd just let me save when I want to.

I've had a couple of occasions where I've started a new session and found the last hour of play's been undone. Would be much happier if it'd just let me save when I want to.

this has been happening to me too, and it is infuriating. makes me want to over-level the story quests and just stomp through where i get hung up

This confuses me, there seem to be shitloads of auto save spots everywhere?

That's the thing, there are loads. And if I just die and respawn then fair enough, it always seems to bring me back at the most recent. But if I exit and save then comeback later, I think it's bringing me back at the spawn point nearest to the start of whatever quest I'm on at the time, rather than the spawn point I triggered most recently. And some of the quests cover a lot of ground, geographically. So eg that early mission "best minion ever", I'd played right up to the bit where I was about to fight that Flynt guy, had to shut down, so triggered a save point right before that boss fight. Then when I came back later I got birthed right back at Hammerlock's cabin, which meant it'd undone maybe an hour of play for me.

oh man, thats weird, i have not experienced that

i only played this through the first couple of levels, but i also ran into that bullshit. wasn't sure if i was quitting the game incorrectly or something.

I feel like the same was true of Bordelands 1, no? There were save points and checkpoints. Save points you continue from if you quit the game, checkpoints you only continue from during that play? Perhaps it's more pronounced in Borderlands 2 with bigger missions or whatever? Fwiw Mario 3D Land caught me with the same bullshit when fighting Bowser on a lunch break.

yeah, it's definitely a save v. spawn point thing---but there's really no good way to know which is which aside from context ("I'm in the middle of a mission"). generally speaking, fast-travel points seem to indicate a hard save point, a save-machine (or w/e) encountered as you go around the corner or something is likely just to be a spawn point

it is possible that i have not noticed this because most of my BL2 sessions tend to be the sort where i endlessly play until horrible late night hours until i am nodding off with the controller in my hand

Anyway having not progressed all that far (just met some low cut siren lady and had a long drawn out fight with a load of overpowered psychos) I think I'm fed up with it. I don't know how much randomness there is in the weapon drops, I'd imagine quite a bit. And maybe I've just been unlucky. But I can't find anything I enjoy using, they're all either too weak or too slow or too short/long range, I dunno, I'm just finding it frustrating - while I'm levelling, and the bad guys are levelling, it just feels like my weapons aren't, so it's getting tough in a way that's not much fun. Plus gunzerking gets a lot less enjoyable once you have three weapon slots and have to do tricky micromanaging to make sure the two of those three you actually want are the ones you get when you activate your power up.

I played Borderlands 2 basically nonstop all weekend.

How was it? I'm holding out picking up either this or Skyrim on the last day of the steam sale.

Will probably go for Skyrim as I want to wait for all the Borderlands dlc to be released.

only had the xbox for a couple months but skyrim and B2 are my #1 and #2 faves. skyrim's engrossing and elaborate, B2's just berserk addictive nonsense... but you knew that already.

i like borderlands 2 a lot, but man, it's fucking hard! i guess i don't play a lot of FPS' so maybe i'm just terrible.

I found it really hard at first until I figured out that gun switching was key. get the right weapon and you can blow through a lot of stuff, but you've got to pick up and drop guns to figure out what works best for you. some parts you have to research online - never would've gotten past boom bewm without looking it up. aiming with the left trigger is important too, as is getting your special power. can't remember exactly when I got it but it was early on (hammerlocks?), as axon I can throw out a mini-howitzer that fires itself at enemies, it's almost like having a second player on yr side in a firefight.

The multiplayer matchmaking is a bit broken. You'll often find people just using the game as a chatroom, or playing slots or dueling or whatever, and the more people in your session the harder it is, so without the help of those guys you might as well just find another session if you're trying to progress within the story. But I find the game a bit boring on 1p so it's a necessary evil for me.

i'm playing as a siren, and i have the feeling i'm in a weird purgatory in terms of difficulty. i have the superpower, which lifts a single enemy up in the air and freezes them for a few seconds. it's really useful in some situations, but if there are multiple enemies and the shit's hitting the fan, it can leave you exposed because you end up ignoring the battle around you for a few seconds to concentrate on the floating target. later on, i see that skill upgrades can be unlocked that allow the superpower to impact multiple enemies. but right now...

The most important thing to know, in my opinion:

Each skill tree has two five point choices in the first row, two five point choices in the second row, and three choices in the third row. The skill in the middle of the third row is the key skill in that tree. Since there are three trees I recommend that you put all your points into whichever of those three skills interests you the most. It's worth mentioning that reassigning your skill points is relatively cheap in the quick change machine. Also I recommend putting all five points into one skill rather than splitting them 3/2 or whatever.

As far as the siren is concerned I have the third-tier skill that makes her power like a black hole, sucking in nearby enemies and taking some power from them. It's nice. I haven't tried the other two third tier skills for her though.

So here's a dumb question: where do the DLC missions fit in story-wise, and what levels are they appropriate for? It seems like I can access them whenever...

The DLC missions have level numbers just like the main game. I think that if you play through the game and start a new game plus, they will level up the mission difficulty/bonuses just like they do for the regular missions, so if you think you're going to level up to 50 then it's a good idea to save them so you can get the best possible guns (if that appeals to you).

B2 is worth twenty bucks right? I think i'm going in.

where is it 20 bucks?

PS+

i wish this game kept stats (kills, dmg done) during co-op so u can brag

psn was down and i'm a bit ill so i picked back up the first one and puttered out right around the same place: when car combat becomes a thing and all the fetch quests begin to grate. is the second one that much better?

i haven't gotten bored of the second one yet

I put a ton of time into the second one, never bought the original.

The game is much better with multiplayer. The world is pretty open, so combining powers and flanking and etc. is very fun. A little boring by comparison as a 1p experience.

okay, i got hooked on doing the original in multi hour runs and just beat it... a little disappointing? I think I'll wait on the second one for awhile and instead transition to backlog. Still got to play arkham city for instance!

yeah, the ending is pretty anticlimatic for Borderlands

the storyline's wafer thin anyway, don't think I'll be disappointed cuz this game is all about finding hueg guns and marching into battles. this is the first FPS I really got into, there's something weirdly fun about it. more to do with art + physics + gameplay than story arc, in a way its pleasures are very in-the-monent old school, like smash TV on steroids.

i've only tried B2 with multiplayer once and the other ppl were so stupid and bad that i assumed it sucked, and went back to soloing. maybe i should reconsider?

the dlc made up for the ending of the first, i felt

except for the battle arena one, that sucked