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Bristol was nice, only been there once for a beer/bourbon dinner.

Jeff, Thursday, 25 October 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link

You can avoid communal seating at Publican. Just ask for a booth when making your reservation. Once I made a reservation, then at the end asked if it would be possible to get a booth. They acted a little surprised and said, sure, we can note you down for a booth. After I hung up I wondered who in hell would prefer communal dining.

Once had reservations at GT Fish and Oyster, and when we got there the seat was at a communal table with a family of 6, including two kids. We were at to dinner to be away from the kids, let alone someone else's, so we said fuck it and sat at the bar, which was great.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 October 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link

jesse did they play mother of the world for an encore last night? i need to know!

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Thursday, 25 October 2012 21:03 (eleven years ago) link

sorry je55e

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Thursday, 25 October 2012 21:03 (eleven years ago) link

I shouldn't have to ask for a non-communal table.

Jeff, Thursday, 25 October 2012 21:05 (eleven years ago) link

When making a reservation.

Jeff, Thursday, 25 October 2012 21:06 (eleven years ago) link

Nightwood is one I really like for a nice-but-not-fancy dinner. I'm doing some work with Tr3nch3rmen and would very much recommend it for something that's innovative but not intellectual. Their brunch is really good, too. Publican I went to with someone who works there, and so they fed us a ridiculous amount of good things. Balsan, Embeya, T-men, and others are all starting to have Sunday-night multi-course prix-fixe dinners for around $30, which is a great deal at any of them.

But sometimes if conversation is good, I don't pay enough attention to the food for it to matter much, in which case I'm happy doing BYOB at 90 Miles or Penny's or Old Jerusalem. Maybe we-all should do one of those this fall or winter.

pretty even gender split (Eazy), Thursday, 25 October 2012 21:06 (eleven years ago) link

Publican brunch rocks because they actually take reservations.

Trenche ... er, Tr3nch3rmen is on our collective short list. Nightwood is an absolute safe bet year-round. I like L&E for weekday lunch, which is essentially brunch, minus the crowds, but plus the best Cuban in the city.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 October 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link

i have never been to any of these places

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Thursday, 25 October 2012 21:12 (eleven years ago) link

You should go to Nightwood ASAP. What an easy great meal. Publican, too. Those are two I always recommend to visitors, since they are awesome, local and take reservations that are actually easy to make.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 October 2012 21:16 (eleven years ago) link

I liked nightwood a lot but it was nearly impossible to catch a cab home from there.

Jeff, Thursday, 25 October 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

I only remember making joke after joke about the name of Nightwood, but I guess I could eat there. Is it easy to park? I need to chauffeur my date most of the time.

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Thursday, 25 October 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

It's in the middle of Pilsen, so parking is easy and hailing a random cab might not be.

pretty even gender split (Eazy), Thursday, 25 October 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

Also, Publican Quality Meats has a burger night on Tuesdays that would be very worth trying.

pretty even gender split (Eazy), Thursday, 25 October 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

Kr and I had our 1st anniversary dinner at T-men. E's take is good -- creative food, unusual flavor combos w/o any conceptual gimmickry. Cocktails were great, too.

I like Publican, but I'm less eager to return there than to check out their offshoot, Publican Quality Meats. Keep meaning to hit it up for a weekend lunch.

Was so-so on Bristol the first time I went (late 2009) but enjoyed it a lot more when Kr and I went on a whim a few months ago and sat at the bar. Seemed like the menu had changed a fair amount. (More pescatarian options, at least.)

I still don't mind communal seating, but I guess I haven't had any experiences that have been worsened by it.

Sandy Denny Real Estate (jaymc), Thursday, 25 October 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link

xposts (Didn't see that PQM had been mentioned.)

Would like to try Nightwood again. The location sometimes feels like a hindrance, but I know that it also makes it easier to get into than a lot of comparable establishments.

Sandy Denny Real Estate (jaymc), Thursday, 25 October 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link

I'm a broad broad so communal tables mean having to sit hunched up and curled in all through a meal to avoid encroaching on my neighbor. And that only works if the neighbor is equally as mindful, which never happens. I just hate it. I like to relax when I go out to eat, which means I want a constructive bubble around my table. Having someone else's knife on my napkin or elbow in my ribs shatters that illusion.

carl agatha, Thursday, 25 October 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, that makes sense.

Sandy Denny Real Estate (jaymc), Thursday, 25 October 2012 21:42 (eleven years ago) link

Btw, Lula is continuing its tradition of "dressing up as" another restaurant/bar for Halloween. This year's it's "The Violent Hour."

Sandy Denny Real Estate (jaymc), Thursday, 25 October 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.theatlanticcities.com/neighborhoods/2012/10/durhams-bridge-death-will-decapitate-any-tall-truck/3707/

I encourage you to watch the video of all the trucks trying to drive under the bridge.

carl agatha, Friday, 26 October 2012 03:18 (eleven years ago) link

the campers were my favorites

dansplaining (dan m), Friday, 26 October 2012 04:27 (eleven years ago) link

ahahahaa

pretty even gender split (Eazy), Friday, 26 October 2012 04:36 (eleven years ago) link

The ones that just keep on going, leaving the top of their trucks behind, are my favorite.

carl agatha, Friday, 26 October 2012 12:31 (eleven years ago) link

Actually, no. The two hay trucks are my favorite.

carl agatha, Friday, 26 October 2012 12:35 (eleven years ago) link

The hay trucks are awesome.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 October 2012 13:38 (eleven years ago) link

great video.

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 26 October 2012 14:35 (eleven years ago) link

we have nothing planned this weekend
i'm so excited

in norbit (n/a), Friday, 26 October 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

lol @ your display name

Sandy Denny Real Estate (jaymc), Friday, 26 October 2012 18:17 (eleven years ago) link

La Lachera (or any chilxors ?) hitting Afghan Whigs tomorrow ? Gotta highly recommend - good musicianship all around ... Now to gear up for Metro oversold BS...

BlackIronPrison, Friday, 26 October 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link

Afghan Whigs were so good at Metro over the summer that I almost don't feel the need to ever see them again. Like, game-over level set.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 October 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link

metro wasn't as packed as usual for swans, i was pleasantly surprised. i have had a couple of claustrophobic issues at shows there.

in norbit (n/a), Friday, 26 October 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link

I'll be there!

I hope they turn down the lights. SWANS were under some kind of blasting surgical lamp and it kinda distracted me from my full immersive experience.

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Friday, 26 October 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link

Has anybody found out more about the various questions on the ballot for the upcoming election? Alderman Joe Moore's site (http://www.ward49.com/site/epage/138795_322.htm) has some pretty good recommendations, but I guess I'd like info from more than one source.

doctor, doctor, give me the news (askance johnson), Friday, 26 October 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

I posed the question about ballot initiatives on my fb and twitter, and this is the only response I got. I make no claims as to its veracity/nonpartisan-ness.

http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Illinois_Public_Pension_Amendment,_HJRCA_49_%282012%29

dansplaining (dan m), Friday, 26 October 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

please tell me if i am on/off base wrt the pension question:

we are being asked to decide if we want to fulfill the state's obligations to pension funds first (at the expense of schools) or to funding schools efficiently and fairly (at the expense of pensions)?

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Friday, 26 October 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link

why does it take a village to answer this question?!

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Friday, 26 October 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link

I also saw this from a very pro-union friend.

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/420470_3899883381346_967843496_n.jpg

dansplaining (dan m), Friday, 26 October 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

That doesn't really help because it seems awfully skewed toward favoring the pension over the funding of education.
Is my interpretation accurate or am I off base? I truly don't know.

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Friday, 26 October 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link

I'm not voting on any of the referendums. Can't find enough information regarding them.

Jeff, Friday, 26 October 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link

Oh yeah, it's completely skewed because it's put out by the firefighter's union.

dansplaining (dan m), Friday, 26 October 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link

I'm not sure how the pension question connects to schools, other than it all comes from the same pot of money?

doctor, doctor, give me the news (askance johnson), Friday, 26 October 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

I don't think it does directly connect, seems like it's being used as a wedge in this case.

dansplaining (dan m), Friday, 26 October 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

I hope they turn down the lights. SWANS were under some kind of blasting surgical lamp and it kinda distracted me from my full immersive experience.

I figured that's Mr. Gira wanted it. Remember there was that guy climbing around on the lights? I can picture Gira sweating, screaming, and pointing furiously until the roadie got it right.

Oh, I was going to tell you, right after you left, he did that thing where he he spits straight up into the air.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Friday, 26 October 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

My former union feels similarly about the pension question. It's something about how state employee pensions are governed by the constitution and if we open up the constitution for an amendment, it gives the gov a chance to really get in there and restructure or eliminate the whole pension system. Given the level of animosity between Quinn and AFSCME (girl, you should see the proposed contract provisions that man was putting I the table; he doesn't give a fuck about union endorsements anymore, which is a little scary for state workers) and the Midwestern trend of mauling public sector collective bargaining rights, that's a realistic fear.

The school thing is a distraction, IMO.

carl agatha, Friday, 26 October 2012 20:58 (eleven years ago) link

he spit the water into the air while i was there too
i saw some spitting

the lights though, i can't dig that
maybe he was trying to punish us
(i can dig that i guess)

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Friday, 26 October 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

also are you trying to say that the education thing is a complete red herring or ?

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Friday, 26 October 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

The wording of the pension question that's like "do you want to let us tinker with the constitution so we can reduce pension money and use it for education or are you some kind of a monster who hates children and murders kittens?" It's stacked and per AFSCME, not honest.

carl agatha, Friday, 26 October 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link

i'm be totally honest and say that this conversation has not really helped to clarify the issue for me
:(

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Friday, 26 October 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link

Per unions: The people who wrote the question want you to vote yes so that legislators can gut state worker pensions, which will negatively impact state workers. Legislators might use some of the money they save in retirement benefits to state employees to fund schools. But more likely they will somehow manage to not do that.

carl agatha, Friday, 26 October 2012 22:28 (eleven years ago) link

I say "per unions" bc that's the bias. However as a former (yay) state employer who was privy to some of the less publicized pension tension, I think the unions are OTM.

carl agatha, Friday, 26 October 2012 22:29 (eleven years ago) link


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