Say something nice about the South

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Winters are not too cold.

They're not cold at all. We have about one day a year where it stays below freezing all day. You pay for it in the summer, but there are good stretches in the "winter" where you can leave your window open. Niiice.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 18 August 2003 16:51 (twenty years ago) link

Debutantes!

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Monday, 18 August 2003 16:52 (twenty years ago) link

the Southern Girls and the way they look (or is it cook?) they knock me out when I'm down there

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 18 August 2003 16:52 (twenty years ago) link

no one seems to think that Florida is the South.

It depends on the context. I get into this with my ex a lot, cause her diss is on Southern lit, and my MA was in history. Like Texas and Louisiana, it's geographically South, but it doesn't share the same English-settled/plantation/etc. culture as the Carolinas and Virginias, etc. It's certainly South in the sense of not-being-North.

That's why I've ended up not posting to this thread much; I don't know from the South so much as I do from Louisiana.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 18 August 2003 16:53 (twenty years ago) link

I was kinda cold in Tennessee a few times.

I think parts of FL are definitely 'The South'

oops (Oops), Monday, 18 August 2003 16:53 (twenty years ago) link

Well, I've decided Florida is the South and ergo people need to give more love to the Atlantis ride at Sea World, fuck.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 18 August 2003 16:54 (twenty years ago) link

Florida = "America's Wang"

Homer has taught us well. (nickalicious), Monday, 18 August 2003 16:54 (twenty years ago) link

Our food be good.

Texas Sam (thatgirl), Monday, 18 August 2003 16:55 (twenty years ago) link

Ah, see, Texas is way south of TN. That's why you were cold, oops. Not south enough.

And I agree that South Florida isn't really "the South." It's more like Cuba.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 18 August 2003 16:56 (twenty years ago) link

Well then I'm saying something nice about Cuba.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 18 August 2003 16:56 (twenty years ago) link

Cape Horn!

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Monday, 18 August 2003 16:57 (twenty years ago) link

Cajun food.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 18 August 2003 16:57 (twenty years ago) link

those commercials for Bartles & James wine coolers

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 18 August 2003 16:58 (twenty years ago) link

Hurricanes are way better than blizzards. Both kinds of each.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 18 August 2003 16:59 (twenty years ago) link

Parts of Central and Northern FL aren't really the south to me either. I mean, Orlando? Gainesville? (ok, college town). I guess maybe it's the difference between rural and non-rural. Are there any bona fide Southern towns/cities in Florida? Pensacola???

Oh:
Friendliness
Great service, ie waiters/waitresses
Relaxed pace

oops (Oops), Monday, 18 August 2003 17:00 (twenty years ago) link

The Drawl

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 18 August 2003 17:00 (twenty years ago) link

Cajun food.

Some cajun food is OK, but keep the crawfish away from me. They're insects that live in the mud. Horrible nasty little vermin that actually *taste* like mud if you don't season them right. Sometimes you bite into one to find that it still has mud in it. Oh horrible, most horrible.

And gumbo? This is not cuisine. This is what prisoners and exiles found in the swamp they'd been banished to. Oh, look, okra! Bleeeargh.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 18 August 2003 17:01 (twenty years ago) link

Sarah, and me (although I was born in Florida (not really the South) and then have only lived in the South for, let's see, 7 of my 24 years, though, hell, I live in the capital of the confederacy now so that should make up for lost time).

Also, people really are more polite here. Though there's usually some intense hatred lurking underneath the politeness. Guess we got it from our colonial forefathers.

NA (Nick A.), Monday, 18 August 2003 17:01 (twenty years ago) link

i must go to pensacola

gareth (gareth), Monday, 18 August 2003 17:02 (twenty years ago) link

Some cajun food is OK, but keep the crawfish away from me. They're insects that live in the mud. Horrible nasty little vermin that actually *taste* like mud if you don't season them right. Sometimes you bite into one to find that it still has mud in it. Oh horrible, most horrible.

And gumbo? This is not cuisine. This is what prisoners and exiles found in the swamp they'd been banished to. Oh, look, okra! Bleeeargh.

I kill you, Kenan :)

Actually, lots of gumbo isn't made with okra. I know that's where the word comes from, but that's sort of like the old-fashioned gumbo. It's fallen out of fashion. I'm not crazy about it myself, most of the time.

(They weren't prisoners and exiles so much as misled landless nobility.)

Crawfish are just lobster! It sounds like you've had them mis-prepared or fished from the wrong places.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 18 August 2003 17:04 (twenty years ago) link

HAha! beat horace to it!

Kingfish (Kingfish), Monday, 18 August 2003 17:04 (twenty years ago) link

Could be. But I've had a lot of them.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 18 August 2003 17:05 (twenty years ago) link

(x-post)

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 18 August 2003 17:05 (twenty years ago) link

Well, excuse me, Kenan. Dickhead.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 18 August 2003 17:05 (twenty years ago) link

(They weren't prisoners and exiles so much as misled landless nobility.)

Either way, they were there because other people didn't want them around. Which is American as hell, and I'm all for it. No value judgement there. It's just... swamp food. Icky poo.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 18 August 2003 17:07 (twenty years ago) link

Ally, that was not an attack on you.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 18 August 2003 17:07 (twenty years ago) link

I'm way off topic anyway. This is the "say something nice" thread. Sorry.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 18 August 2003 17:08 (twenty years ago) link

(They weren't prisoners and exiles so much as misled landless nobility.)

Either way, they were there because other people didn't want them around. Which is American as hell, and I'm all for it. No value judgement there. It's just... swamp food. Icky poo.

I actually realized as soon as I hit submit that I was talking more about New Orleans, and you were talking more about Acadiana. Habitual lapse for me.

Turning this around: there is a cultural appreciation for the underdog stemming from numerous unrelated reasons (and therefore affecting even those people who reject one reason or another).

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 18 August 2003 17:11 (twenty years ago) link

The friendliness needs to be underscored. I feel claustrophobic even when I visit the rural-suburban northeast, because that friendliness is just plain not there. It isn't an objective better/worse thing cause it's all about comfort levels, but for me, that alone almost seals it.

Fresh local produce for the majority, if not entirety, of the year.

Hurricanes get names. Ever heard of a blizzard with a name? No. You know why? Cause they suck.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 18 August 2003 17:15 (twenty years ago) link

Something nice (to repent for my sins):

Most of the rest of the local Southern specialties are fantastic. Barbecue, for one. Soul food in general -- mashed potatoes, black-eyed peas, chicken fried steak, sweet cornbread, green beans. These are a few of my favorite things.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 18 August 2003 17:17 (twenty years ago) link

I heard of some African American group recently complaining that hurricanes never get ethnic names, just white people names. Like a hurricane is a thing devoutly to be wish'd, or something. I think we should name hurricanes after tyrants and despots, personally.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 18 August 2003 17:19 (twenty years ago) link


Pecan pralines

Manatees.

The Banjo.

Waffle house

ModJ, Monday, 18 August 2003 17:21 (twenty years ago) link

Note to self: must kill Kingfish (or possibly read threads more thoroughly before posting, whichever's more time-efficient)

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 18 August 2003 17:21 (twenty years ago) link

They're deliberately multi-ethnic! Although lacking in African American names. Maybe multi-national is a better term.

I'll second chicken-fried steak. I remember the first time I ordered it -- in New Hampshire -- with no idea what to expect. A battered T-Bone? A steak which had somehow been wrapped in chicken? Was it just a fancy term for a chicken breast? The answer was so much better than I could have hoped.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 18 August 2003 17:22 (twenty years ago) link

Jazz.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 18 August 2003 17:23 (twenty years ago) link

Blues. The crossroads.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 18 August 2003 17:24 (twenty years ago) link

Although New York and Sweet Home Chicago has as much to with the modern forms of all that music as the South does. But we did it first, that's for sure.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 18 August 2003 17:26 (twenty years ago) link

Neither Texas nor Florida are Southern, nope.

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 18 August 2003 17:27 (twenty years ago) link

not even East Texas, nope.

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 18 August 2003 17:28 (twenty years ago) link

Muscle Shoals.

Kingfish (Kingfish), Monday, 18 August 2003 17:28 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, normally I don't like to emphasize "did it first" much, but it works for this thread :) And Louis Armstrong is good no matter what came after him.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 18 August 2003 17:28 (twenty years ago) link

the South treated this ragged road-trippin ex-blue-headed boy just fine. except New Orleans. New Orleans held up a sign saying "What are you thinkin', boy?".

donut bitch (donut), Monday, 18 August 2003 17:32 (twenty years ago) link

I'll be the first to admit, on behalf of my town, that New Orleans is not a particularly good place to visit.

Hm, let me think about the rest of the South, though. Oh! Good for road trips. Road trips in or through the South are the best. You don't have the urban sprawl of so much of the North, and you don't have the featureless homogeneity of so much of the Midwest.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 18 August 2003 17:35 (twenty years ago) link

I am scared of Louisiana.

NA (Nick A.), Monday, 18 August 2003 17:35 (twenty years ago) link

It's more scared of you...

ModJ, Monday, 18 August 2003 17:40 (twenty years ago) link

Tep, it was circumstances though. I was alone. My car was my life blood, and obviously filled to the rim with "I'm road tripping" shit. I had just driven straight from Athens, GA earlier that day. I agree Nawlins ain't a good place to visit with that setup. However, if i went with friends, and had little to worry about in the form of immediate possessions, I'd be just fine.. i think.

I liked the rest of southern Louisiana though.. aside from the maelstrom of nutria roadkill everywhere. I stopped in Rayne (Frog Capital Of The World) for a little. I actually had to call some guy for a job interview that day! It was really bizarre.

donut bitch (donut), Monday, 18 August 2003 17:40 (twenty years ago) link

Actually, the only not-nice thing about the South other than that from my trip was Chapel Hill, NC. Man, boring-ass place.

donut bitch (donut), Monday, 18 August 2003 17:42 (twenty years ago) link

Pralines, dudes. Seriously. Order some and see. Especially you Limeys out there.

ModJ, Monday, 18 August 2003 17:43 (twenty years ago) link

New Orleans can be good if you know people there. Weirdly enough, it's not very geared for tourists. It's a paradox I haven't been able to work out.

Nick, why on earth would you be scared of it?!

I stopped in Rayne (Frog Capital Of The World) for a little.

Oh my God. That's honestly my favorite place in the world. Did you go to the truckstop (it's very visible) with the boudin balls?

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 18 August 2003 17:47 (twenty years ago) link

Various fruits.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 18 August 2003 17:47 (twenty years ago) link

Springs smells (and is) delightful in the South. Nashville smells like fresh laundry.

molly mummenschanz (mollyd), Friday, 26 January 2007 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

it's really easy to take naps here

Bernard Snowy (sixteen sergeants), Friday, 26 January 2007 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link

awesome awesome food

Mr. Que (Mr.Que), Friday, 26 January 2007 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Meat and 3s.
Fried okra.
Turnip greens.

molly mummenschanz (mollyd), Friday, 26 January 2007 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Except for, like, the Bible Belt, I guess.

I'm talking about manner and mien rather than world view. Any Southerners I've met all seem pretty laid back, unlike most Northerners.

As an aside, I do love how saying you like Southerners is such a red lines crosser for Northerners.

Remember Fredericksburg! (dirtyvicar), Friday, 26 January 2007 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

broad generalities are accurate both ways vicar.

chicago kevin (chicago kevin), Friday, 26 January 2007 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

i have never had want for a ride home or a place to crash in the south.

So, so true.

B.L.A.M. (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Friday, 26 January 2007 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

"As an aside, I do love how saying you like Southerners is such a red lines crosser for Northerners."

Not a line crossing thing for most people I know, more just a matter of thinking that anyone who would make a generality about an entire region's people (aka "they're all likeable", "they're all laid-back", etc) doesn't really know much about that place or those people.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 26 January 2007 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Bourbon

jennyjennyjenny (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 January 2007 18:07 (seventeen years ago) link

seven years pass...

Headed to Dollywood tomorrow!

Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Thursday, 31 July 2014 04:54 (nine years ago) link

Ooh! I've never made it there, but I hear it's fun.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 31 July 2014 05:39 (nine years ago) link

It's weirder than one would think, and probably far more gay than most of its punters realize.

Bitchin roller coasters, too

Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Thursday, 31 July 2014 05:52 (nine years ago) link


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