Best Rush Album [Poll Closes May 7]

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I'll take the first record...Neil Peart's alright, but he ain't no John Rutsey, I'll tell you what...

henry s, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 12:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Now and forever, Moving Pictures, of course.

Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 12:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Feedback was a covers EP. Didn't really seem to count to me.
? of course it counts*, you rockist

*tho not as an EP

;-)

Is it really half a decade since Vapor Trails (which i still haven't got around to hearing in full)? Blimey, time certainly ain't standing still is it? [/grandad]

I doubt I'll get round to the new one before May 7th either. I think i'm gonna have to abstain on this vote.

Jeff W, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 13:12 (seventeen years ago) link

2112 here. Big time. And its Side 2 is great, except for Tears.

Bill Magill, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 13:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I voted for Permanent Waves, as it is the most consistently good record of theirs. I'm also partial to Signals and A Farewell to Kings. My college roommate had a phase of listening to Grace Under Pressure and Power Windows every day for like two months. Ugh.

Jiminy Krokus, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 14:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm going to go with an unexpected one and say Roll the Bones. Not one of their "classics," but a very underrated album.

-- Jeff Treppel, Monday, April 30, 2007 7:31 PM (Yesterday)


JEFF FOR SERIOUS????

Relax Jack,
get busy with the facts

it's a paralax you dig it's a rig the small get big??????

hahha anyway i'm glad you made me think of that rap.

I voted for Hemispheres, cuz I love Circumstances the most ever.

and La Villa Strangiato is dope too.

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I burned "The Manhattan Project" and "The Big Money" onto my iPod a couple of weeks ago; the synth textures and Synclavier effects on the former would be the envy of Some Great Reward-era Depeche Mode.


I'm always reminded of Siouxsie when I hear the synth break in "Manhattan Project." "Mystic Rhythms" is the secret DM-envy track.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay. Maybe the rap wasn't exactly one of their high points. And in hindsight, maybe I should have voted for something else. But man, the opening of "Dreamline" gets me every time.

Jeff Treppel, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm now actually wishing i voted for grace under pressure : (

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I am surprised at the lack of 2112 love

2112[/1] is the poor man's hemispheres, i think, not as cosmic, the sidelong suite doesn't hold together as well, and side two of [i]hemispheres has one of their best classic rock jams ("circumstances"), one of their most entertaining fantasy fable fairy tell whatever songs ("the trees"), and one of the most what the fuck awesome prog instrumentals ever ("la villa strangiato")

kamerad, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I know very little about early Rush stuff (stayed away from it on purpose) but I was surprised there wasn't more 2112 love here, too. That one seems to be a favourite for several folks I've met.

"Mystic Rhythms" is the secret DM-envy track.

Elvis wins.

Bimble, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Dude, 2112 is all about the story!

Jeff Treppel, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Signals is another thing I'm sad I don't have anymore. Although I might still have it on cassette.

Bimble, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know where you're located, but in my experience (Princeton, New Jersey and Los Angeles, California) Rush CDs are very easy to find for fairly cheap used. And there's always Amazon and eBay.

Jeff Treppel, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm bad at italicizing. 2112 comes off in retrospect like a gear up for hemispheres. i mean, it's good and everything, but for me it's like super æ compared to vision creation newsun. i'm into the "2112" story, just not as much as i'm into the epic evolutionary transcendence myth going on in "hemispheres." there's even a happy ending. and i don't think "passage to bangkok," "twilight zone," and "something for nothing" hold up against side two of hemispheres. but whatever. it's probably just me

kamerad, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Too bad "All the World's A Stage" isn't eligible. That's one of the great all-time live albums.

Bill Magill, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link

The "Overture/Temples Of Syrnix" part of "2112" duels with Amon Duul II for full-bore prog headbanging but it's too bad that pesky Solar Federation has to get in the way.

No love for A Farewell To Kings?

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link

No love for A Farewell To Kings?

I voted "Permanent Waves", but "A Farewell To Kings" is also among their best. Along with "Hemispheres" and "Caress Of Steel". I like their most symphonic years the most.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I like their symphonic/new wave stuff the best, but the only two options for heaviness are "not heavy enough" and "really fucking heavy."

Jeff Treppel, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 23:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Just listened to the new one. Not bad, considering.

NYCNative, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 23:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Considering they're terrible these days?

Matt #2, Thursday, 3 May 2007 00:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Considering that I expected it to be terrible, sure. And it wasn't. The first song reminded me of King's X which is funny sice it used to be the other way around...

I would have given a fair penny to have been able to see Voivod open up for Rush back in the day.

NYCNative, Thursday, 3 May 2007 00:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm really loving this review, especially the line
radiant cocktail of rock
...

which I mis-read as
radiant rocktail of cock
.

Edward Bax, Thursday, 3 May 2007 01:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh man. That's one of the most hilariously overwritten reviews I've ever read.

Jeff Treppel, Thursday, 3 May 2007 01:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I voted A Farewell To Kings, but I also agree with this:

Too bad "All the World's A Stage" isn't eligible. That's one of the great all-time live albums.

It was the first Rush album I heard, bought on a whim.

Lostandfound, Thursday, 3 May 2007 02:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha ha! Great review!

I've been enjoying Snakes and Arrows so far, but I didn't realize this:

“The Large Bowl” is the dish on which life’s luggage is collected

Moodles, Thursday, 3 May 2007 03:24 (seventeen years ago) link

i only really love them right at that late 70s/early 80s prog-pop peak, so i had to go with power windows because it's more consistent than permanent waves. but "spirit of radio" is still my favorite rush song.

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 3 May 2007 04:48 (seventeen years ago) link

haha, i mean i had to go with moving pictures. power windows is ok too, but gettin on toward their 80s electro phase, which i don't think holds up so well.

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 3 May 2007 04:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Kevin, your birthday is a holiday here! (Yours and Queen Victoria's.) Plus I think that's why beer is sold in cases of 24.

Because of me or because of Queen Victoria? ;)

Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm getting mixed messages about 2112 on this thread. Is it the story that makes it great for some, not-so-great for others?

Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I was being slightly sarcastic. The story is somewhat silly, but 2112 is still totally freaking awesome.

Jeff Treppel, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

WE-E-E-E ARE THE PRIESTS...OF THE T-T-TEMPLE OF SEEE-RINX!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Snakes and Arrows isn't bad and has good moments but it's no White Willow (or Mastodon for that matter.)

Sundar, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm fine with the story. it doesn't get my like "hemispheres" does, that's all

kamerad, Thursday, 3 May 2007 19:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Who cares about the story-2112 is their high water mark.

Bill Magill, Thursday, 3 May 2007 19:32 (seventeen years ago) link

but the only two options for heaviness are "not heavy enough" and "really fucking heavy."

Absolutely not. Anything that is heavier than Genesis or Yes is too heavy.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:10 (seventeen years ago) link

You are absolutely right, Geir. How could I ever have thought otherwise?

Jeff Treppel, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:33 (seventeen years ago) link

FWIW I also think that 2112 isn't as good as either Caress of Steel or Hemispheres.

Sundar, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link

that's so raven geir!

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Someone was asking where this thread was. So here we go.
I have no knowledge of Rush so I'll leave you guys to argue over the results.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Monday, 7 May 2007 19:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Hey, it is May 7! Not a bad spread. Sort of surprised Roll the Bones and the new one scored so high, though. Also that Hemispheres scored so low after all the love that got on the thread. Or was it just one or two people raving about it?

Jeff Treppel, Monday, 7 May 2007 21:02 (sixteen years ago) link

What's the new album?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Monday, 7 May 2007 21:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Wow! I thought Signals would've landed much higher. What's wrong with it? Too synthy?

Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 7 May 2007 21:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Snakes & Arrows is the new one. I don't think there's anything wrong with Signals, it's one of my favorites, I guess it just wasn't the number one favorite of a lot of people.

Jeff Treppel, Monday, 7 May 2007 21:41 (sixteen years ago) link

snakes and arrows over hemispheres! wtf!

roll the bones over signals!!!!!

i really now wish i would've voted for sad grace under pressure, which is actually my fav of the new wave police rush records.

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 7 May 2007 21:49 (sixteen years ago) link

People must really love the new Rush album then. I guess the band will like that.
Lots of old bands have been "returning to form lately".

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Monday, 7 May 2007 21:58 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't really think they've "returned to form" necessarily, it's just been like six years since they put out a new record. Test for Echo and Vapor Trails were by no means bad.

Jeff Treppel, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 00:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Signals outrageously low on the poll. 2112 outrageously high (IMO).

Joe, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 00:45 (sixteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

I knew there was a Best Rush Album thread!

I just bought Signals on CD! I don't think I've ever owned that on CD! I'm such a goddamn happy camper I don't know what to do with myself. SUBDIVISIONS ALONE!

Bimble, Sunday, 23 December 2007 22:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Holy shit people I am DYING here, listen the the faux reggae beat of "Digital Man"!!!

Bimble, Sunday, 23 December 2007 23:07 (sixteen years ago) link

to me Signals seems to belong more to the run of albums after it than what came before

imago, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 20:44 (eight months ago) link

True

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 21:01 (eight months ago) link

I would go all-in on super deluxe editions of Signals, Grace Under Pressure, Power Windows, and Hold Your Fire but AFAIK apart from that "Power Windows Demos" bootleg CD (which isn't as interesting as it seems) there's little in the way of extras outside of live shows. I don't think they ever worked in a way that generated lots of outtakes or alternate directions.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 21:43 (eight months ago) link

Well that run of albums is notable in that even though they were a multiplatinum smash and worldwide megastars, they just kept churning out an album pretty much every year! It's hard to think of another band who refused to rest on their laurels to such an extent. Such output seems to tell me they had a lot of clarity when they went into the studio, hence the lack of outtakes

imago, Thursday, 17 August 2023 06:48 (eight months ago) link

to me Signals seems to belong more to the run of albums after it than what came before

― imago, Wednesday, August 16, 2023 3:44 PM (yesterday)

glad there ended up being so much Hold Your Fire chat here, because I think that might be my answer (having heard everything between Moving Pictures and it over the last couple of days)

― imago, Wednesday, August 16, 2023 3:12 PM (yesterday)

I appreciate how their first 3 live albums serve as lines of demarcation in their catalogue, like ending credit scenes from a cinematic entry in some grand trilogy. While I don't view "Different Stages" as sharing a similar role, it does serve as a nice in-joke to their whole "trilogies have 4 parts" ethos.

As for HYF, I learned that the key to appreciating it as a whole album (rather than a just a delivery system for the "Force Ten"/"Time Stand Still" opening salvo) is to view it as a prog-leaning New Age-adjacent record, like if Windham Hill let Michael Hedges or Alex DeGrassi create their own sub-label. The choir vocals/synths, calm strings, and empty space of "Mission", "Tai Shan", "Prime Mover", and "High Water" make a fairly enjoyable listen. If you can turn off the whole "Is this supposed to be Rush? Where's the distorted riffage and/or wild drum/bass interplay?" part of your brain - and besides, those *are* there, just in a very subordinate role to those other 3 elements listed above - it is damn near transcendent.

One other HYF point that someone made in a comment section from a surely-dead prog-rock blog that I wish I could find: "Open Secrets" might (ahem) secretly be a great "Invisible Touch"-era Genesis song, especially the chorus.

Front-loaded albums are musical gerrymandering (Prefecture), Thursday, 17 August 2023 15:01 (eight months ago) link

turns out the person why recommended me HYF was also busy doing a huge in-depth interview about it too :)

https://www.spin.com/2023/08/band-jury-fire-toolz-rush-hold-your-fire/

imago, Thursday, 17 August 2023 15:29 (eight months ago) link

I remember reading something (no doubt linked to on this thread somewhere) about each Rush album evolution coming in pairs.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 August 2023 15:42 (eight months ago) link

to me Signals seems to belong more to the run of albums after it than what came before

It felt like a huge departure from Moving Pictures, which in itself was a little bit removed from the albums immediately prior.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 18 August 2023 03:06 (eight months ago) link

five months pass...

HEMISPHERES

ivy., Thursday, 25 January 2024 04:12 (three months ago) link

i like their 1st album

y'know before they became libertarians

donald wears yer troosers (doo rag), Thursday, 25 January 2024 06:26 (three months ago) link

didja get my skrewdriver joke

donald wears yer troosers (doo rag), Thursday, 25 January 2024 06:27 (three months ago) link

ivy. OTM

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 25 January 2024 20:15 (three months ago) link


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