wait til you guys read the kid rock profile this week
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 12 November 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link
(it's pretty boring)
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 12 November 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link
Eh, I thought it struck a fine balance. No "Mr. ?uestlove," 41, who makes a living performing with many notable rapper musicians between jobs disc jockeying and serving as the music director for Jimmy Fallon, a television program watched by young people" sort of stuff. I thought it did a nice job dancing around the issue of making music listened to largely through white ears, or played for white audiences, or for "Pitchfork and Slate," while at the same time underscoring that there is no escape from race, going back to the "damned if you do ..." situation.
xpost Is there really a Kid Rock profile?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 November 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link
yes
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 12 November 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
At least they captured him at the peak of his powers and popularity.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 November 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link
Kelefa wrote it! was wondering what he was up to
― Everybody did shit, art happened! (forksclovetofu), Monday, 12 November 2012 22:23 (eleven years ago) link
Off the NYer again, kind of burned out on it. Will probably re-subscribe in six months or so.
― drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Monday, 12 November 2012 22:29 (eleven years ago) link
I probably don't need to ask, but is the Gopnik on geography article more of his Politics Gladwell shtick?
― Gods Leee You Black Emperor (Leee), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 02:13 (eleven years ago) link
loved Menand's review of Applebaum's Iron Curtain (I put it in my library queue).
Just learned Alex Ross is queer.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 November 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link
oh man this grateful dead piece lol
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 04:07 (eleven years ago) link
its kind of amazing
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 04:08 (eleven years ago) link
Good/bad amazing?
― Khaleeesi (Leee), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 04:09 (eleven years ago) link
idk its m/l just a guy rhapsodizing abt dead bootlegs for a v long time
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 04:10 (eleven years ago) link
he stops to mention periodically how much his wife and other people hate this pastime
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 04:11 (eleven years ago) link
i... sort of enjoyed it
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 04:13 (eleven years ago) link
screen names see print
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 04:16 (eleven years ago) link
I like the idea of some ponytailed writer pitching every day, for decades, a piece on his wife and him collecting Dead bootlegs until finally, bam, 2012 comes around and the mag relents.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 04:20 (eleven years ago) link
Haha, I was just looking at the issue and somehow missed this
― Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 04:23 (eleven years ago) link
Loved the ?uestlove article, and loved the Kid Rock article. Kid Rock article was kind of funny. Like, it didn't make his music sound appealing or his politics or even personality but somehow he came across so humble and cool about things that you couldn't help but to kinda like the guy.
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 04:53 (eleven years ago) link
i've been in the "can't help but like" camp since Devil Without a Cause tbh
― sug life (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 04:58 (eleven years ago) link
ha so sark, i mean wtf is up w/ this place right?
― chief beef (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 05:01 (eleven years ago) link
I've never actually heard his music except the werewolves of london one...and whatever thing he had on MTV during the first time around when he was the white rapper that wasn't Beastie Boys or 3rd Bass and before Vanilla Ice and House of Pain.
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 05:42 (eleven years ago) link
its the worst music
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 05:55 (eleven years ago) link
remember that profile of him before he became famous in grand royal
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 13:05 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah. I read that issue over and over again when I was 14 or 15 and just starting to get into music. In those woeful pre-internet days growing up in suburban Scotland, Grand Royal seemed was an impossibly exciting glimpse into a world I was only dimly aware of, and the Kid Rock profile made him sound like a brilliant iconoclast. I was really excited to hear his music.
Then, a few years later, I did hear his music. It was terrible :(
― bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 13:34 (eleven years ago) link
Y U BRAEK HART KID ROCK
― bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 13:35 (eleven years ago) link
Every person I know who grew up with, has hung with, or even casually knows Kid Rock - and there are a shocking number, all things considered - says he is a great guy who gives a lot back to Detroit and generally has your back. His music is indeed terrible, but maybe that is what keeps him humble.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 13:42 (eleven years ago) link
I'm sure he is a nice guy - the New Yorker profile certainly made him seem decent. I guess I should probably let go of the disappointment over the quality of his musical offerings that has now plagued me for now more than half my life.
― bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 13:49 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, moveon.org.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 13:50 (eleven years ago) link
Who'd have guessed a thread on New Yorker articles could be so cathartic?
― bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 13:51 (eleven years ago) link
People who make terrible music often turn out to be really nice people. Unfortunately the opposite is also true :/
― badg, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 14:23 (eleven years ago) link
music who makes people terrible nice?
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 14:24 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I didn't learn this until I started following him on Twitter and he was promoting his partner's film.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 15:20 (eleven years ago) link
v. excited to read the Dead article
― beef richards (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link
i knew people would complain about the dead article but i thought it was really good, aside from a couple of corny moments. did a nice job of explaining something i don't know much about to me, which is basically what i look for in a NYer article. this week's issue is solid, the article by the guy whose mom went to jail for shaking a baby and the profile of the controversial megachurch pastor were good too, and jill lepore on taxes had some interesting parts.
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2012/11/after-gaza-a-single-state.html
Surprisingly concrete and radical position for something published in the NYer. A french tourist on the subway once saw my sister-in-law reading the new yorker and asked her "This magazine, what does it stand for? I cannot tell."
― drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
didn't kid rock beat eminem in some early rap competitions?
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
yeah he choked, he was so mad, but he wouldnt give up that easy
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link
i feel like young kid rock and eminem struck a secret blood brothers bargain to set off to conquer rap using two different strategies, and who got which strategy depended on the toss of some D&D dice.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 16:59 (eleven years ago) link
Record store clerk friend of mine said Kid Rock came into the shop (pre MTC hit) and he bought "every good record in the store." I still find that hard to believe, though.
― Trip Maker, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link
MTV, even.
― drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Tuesday, November 20, 2012 11:41 AM (38 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
that reminds me of the italian journalist i sat next to at dinner once, who had covered war crimes trials in the hague and other important things, who said to me when i told her my beat was movies and food, "you only write about... pleassssure."
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 17:20 (eleven years ago) link
ironic nationality dialectic
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link
anecdotes that could be newyorker cartoons
― f (Lamp), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link
s1ocki that is amazing
― goole, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 18:28 (eleven years ago) link
i have been haunted by it ever since
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
xp I interviewed Kid Rock in 99 and really warmed to him despite having no connection to his music, politics, tastes, cultural reference points, etc. He's someone who knows exactly what he is, what he's into and what he's good at, and that genial self-assurance is so rare that it's kind of infectious. I liked him just as much in Kelefa's profile, unlike pretty much every other celebrity Romney supporter.
― Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link
i haven't read the article yet but does it explain why he's into romney?
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link
he doesn't want to pay taxes, mainly
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
Yes, insofar as anyone can explain it.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link