Gotta Make Polls for the Polls I Make - ILM HUSKER DU POLL RESULTS

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I think his songs are catchier/prettier/more affecting/moving. And as much as I like Mould's mastery of bllllaaaaaaargh!, Hart can even best him in that category on stuff like "The Girl Who Lives On Heaven Hill." Which I imagine will place ... high. I still love Mould's songs, of course, but it was Hart I always connected with when the band and me were in sync.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 23:30 (eleven years ago) link

it's a testament to the band that any claim one wants to make about the qualities of one over the other can be shut down. like i might want to say grant has more annoying hollow earworms, someone could play me "it's not peculiar" or "turn it around" to differ. cuz really anything, good or bad, one was doing, the other would be damn sure to do to

da croupier, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 23:38 (eleven years ago) link

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da croupier, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 23:38 (eleven years ago) link

It's Not Peculiar was my #1, btw.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 23:39 (eleven years ago) link

I think it took til "Warehouse," honestly, for Bob to catch up to Grant in the pop department. Up until then they sort of excelled at different things. But, like, those two songs I pretty much like as much as any of the Grant stuff.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 23:41 (eleven years ago) link

i'm done with mould on warehouse after "bed of nails"

da croupier, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 23:41 (eleven years ago) link

I really like "It's Not Peculiar" and enjoy "Turn It Around". Maybe I just like Mould's voice better? I rarely even remember most Hart songs, with some exceptions.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 23:56 (eleven years ago) link

I'm almost never this partisan about band members so it puzzles me! I could never decide between John and Paul.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 23:57 (eleven years ago) link

can't believe i forgot about Games! massive cock-up that.

charlie h, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 01:11 (eleven years ago) link

I prefer Grant Hart's songs. They're catchier, less angsty and generally more fun. But those songs aren't nearly as good without Bob Mould on guitar.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 02:34 (eleven years ago) link

I'm listening to Warehouse as I type and this is what perfunctory-perfect formalism sounds like and, by extension, one of the few un-messy Last Albums.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 02:39 (eleven years ago) link

anyway I prefer Mould when "Hardly Getting Over It" is on -- a slowcore iteration of the MBV-angst he mastered on Copper Blue -- but change my mind when "No Promise Have I made" is on.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 02:41 (eleven years ago) link

Seeing some of the clips reminds me: On top of everything else, Mould and Hart were great, creative backup singers to each other. And sometimes hugely subtle but crucial, like Hart on "Games" or Mould on "Girl Who Lives on Heaven Hill."

Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 03:03 (eleven years ago) link

#1 obv Makes No Sense At All

black redhead (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 03:19 (eleven years ago) link

#1 obv "The Baby Song"

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 03:19 (eleven years ago) link

The Baby Song is an always-skip track

black redhead (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 03:41 (eleven years ago) link

Both of those #1s would be VERY disappointing!

Only possible answers: Chartered Trips or Something I Learned Today.

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 03:49 (eleven years ago) link

Or What Do I Want.

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 03:49 (eleven years ago) link

Mould & Hart - Even in the much later years, they were both contributing huge parts to each other's songs, at least in the recording. Something does my heart good when I hear rivals falling into tense breakups hold each other up like that. (Let It Be, Anodyne, Sonny & Cher Variety Hour, etc.)

pplains, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 04:11 (eleven years ago) link

omg i just got some exciting news
grant hart is going to be in my neighborhood! in january!

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 04:35 (eleven years ago) link

Selling stuff door-to-door?

I'm honestly not sure what will finish #1. I was thinking it might be "Turn on the News," so I'm glad I was way off there. My best guess at this point is a cover--not that one, the other one.

clemenza, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 12:57 (eleven years ago) link

I predict "Heaven Hill."

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 13:00 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvpRnXwL33Q

^ this one you mean? xp

Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 13:02 (eleven years ago) link

Always bums me out when Grant plays some half-filled bar to disinterested patrons.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 13:04 (eleven years ago) link

Think I can guess what about 9 of the top ten are, just not sure if we're going to get something else off Warehouse or not...

Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 13:11 (eleven years ago) link

Always bums me out when Grant plays some half-filled bar to disinterested patrons.

For every crappy gig he probably plays to a good, appreciative house. He did here in Dublin last year, and he's playing here again in a couple of weeks.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:02 (eleven years ago) link

not sure if we're going to get something else off Warehouse or not...

I'll be disappointed if "Ice Cold Ice" doesn't make it.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:07 (eleven years ago) link

i would've voted for norton. i always thought it was funny that the straight guy was the gayest looking dude in the band

turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:14 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah he's definitely playing at a crappy bar, but I'll be there to bring the noise. Don't worry! I'm totally gonna embarrass myself.

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:23 (eleven years ago) link

Totally late to the poll/didn't vote etc., but enjoying the results. Ditto to what Josh said about Grant playing small, bad venues - but some of my favorite personal recordings of his shows are small venues. I was listening to the 'Spot's Arcade' bootleg getting ready for work this a.m. and that has some tasty Zen alternate takes/diff. songs. I think I'd personally chew Spot out if I ever met him - poor, lackadaisical, noisy production on whatever he touched. No wonder we've never had proper remasters. I saw HD on my 17th birthday and it took until seeing Mould this year to have closure on hearing some of the songs I needed to hear at that age, during that show.

BlackIronPrison, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:36 (eleven years ago) link

Had tickets to see Grant here in 2009, but things got in the way, and I had to skip it. The next day, all accounts were that it was a complete disaster. In a way, I was glad I missed it; I don't think I could've taken seeing him so far off his game.

and I scream Fieri Eiffel Tower High (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:36 (eleven years ago) link

What sorts of venues did HD play in the 80s?

EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link

In Chicago in 1986 they played Cabaret Metro (1200 capacity); in early '87 they played the Riviera (3000), and in late '87 the Vic (I wanna say 3500-4000?). Dunno where they played before '86.

and I scream Fieri Eiffel Tower High (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:42 (eleven years ago) link

Ah, cool.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:43 (eleven years ago) link

EveningStar - this is a good resource for past show locations - http://www.thirdav.com/hddb.shtml
I saw them at Mandall Hall and the Vic in Chicago.

BlackIronPrison, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:44 (eleven years ago) link

Now Grant Hart is playing no name bars on the far north side. You guys should come to the show! I won't embarrass you, just myself.

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:48 (eleven years ago) link

I usually don't play the fan boy game, but hey, this thread's perfect for it.

I was 15 and listening to Guns N' Roses when Husker Du broke up, and they likely never played within 100 miles of me anyway. (Black Flag did though!) So I never saw them live.

However, I have been in close contact with two members: Got a nod and a howya doin' from Bob at a Sugar show as I staked my place next to his side of the stage. Also heard him on a SXSW panel talking about how record companies work and why people like Helmet should watch themselves.

I sold a six-pack of Summit to Greg Norton. I was working the register at a long-since-demolished liquor store by the Metrodome. One of those weird moments where I look up and there's that handlebar mustache and twinkly brown eyes looking back at me. He also gave me a nod and a "all right, let's be cool about this" kind of look. I took his $6.98 and told him to have a nice day.

Never met Grant, but I do always keep an eye out for him whenever I eat at a Perkins.

pplains, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:58 (eleven years ago) link

That database is cool. I'm relieved to see they actually never played in Rochester, so I've got nothing to kick myself about.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:10 (eleven years ago) link

Never saw Husker Du but I did go and see Grant round about the time of Intolerance. He got a decent crowd in those days, filled out the New Cross Venue in London. Anyhow, he was nice and didn't seem to mind too much when I pestered him to sign my copy of All Of My Senses.

Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link

25 Feb 95 M Minneapolis MN: 1st Ave
26 Feb 95 M Minneapolis MN: 1st Ave

I was too poor to see these shows, two acoustic solo sets from Bob. I was working for the Downtown Marriot as a valet and one of our garages was in the same building as 7th St/1st Ave (I'd frequently have to wait for the line of people on the sidewalk to part so I could pull into the garage.)

And I remember squatting down between a car bumper and the wall, hiding from any of my other valets, smoking a cigarette and listening to Bob sing "Man on the Moon" from the other side.

pplains, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:21 (eleven years ago) link

And also, the closest they ever played to Little Rock was Tulsa? Fuck that.

pplains, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link

You would think I'd be clear on this, but for some reason I'm not--I may have done a phone interview with Hart and/or Mould right after Candy Apple Grey came out. I know I did a record-by-record rundown for the publication I wrote for at the time, I just can't remember whether it was to accompany an interview or whether it was a standalone.

clemenza, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link

Good Lord, Husker Du played at the Stow Hill Labour Club in Newport in 1985! The only time they came to Wales, according to that site. Admittedly at the time I would only have known two songs of theirs and the journey from where I lived to Newport would have been tough for a 16 yr old, but bloody hell... I wish! And now I live in Newport, and I've drunk at the Labour Club and I never knew!

Rob M Revisited, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link

Always bums me out when Grant plays some half-filled bar to disinterested patrons.

I've been to at least one of those, wanted to give him a hug.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link

I was wondering if giving him a hug would be inappropriate. I would also like to do that.

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link

bob is so much cooler than grant tho

black redhead (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link

some of his writings/interviews have led me to the possibility he is a major dick, which wd preclude a hug.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:22 (eleven years ago) link

I've mentioned elsewhere that when I saw Mould do a Workbook show, some smarty yelled out "Flexible Flyer." Bob proceeded to quickly mime shooting up. Everyone groaned piteously.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

Who do I have to hug to get this top ten started?

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link

Gotta run to a quick meeting and the coffeemaker's still not working.

pplains, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:59 (eleven years ago) link


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