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The recommendation I hear is honestly to give the 12oz bottles a good year to mature in bottle, though some folks like to try one for reference. Also, I repeatedly see them referred to as "sippers" and meant to share, so invite a friend!

Distant xpost, shit, I got confused with the KBS v. FBS. I got a couple of four-packs of the Founder's Breakfast Stout, not the KBS (Founders Kentucky Breakfast Stout). Different animals, and in many corners equally beloved, but the FBS is much easier to find (though still hard for some, apparently).

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 December 2012 22:42 (eleven years ago) link

That makes much more sense. I've only had KBS once, I paid $50 for a four year vertical tasting.

Jeff, Monday, 3 December 2012 22:53 (eleven years ago) link

wowee that's good. i shared it w/ a bunch of friends over a lambchop dinner and it was EXCELLENT. thanks for the recommendation and i'll def get some more to stash away to let age.

Mordy, Monday, 3 December 2012 23:09 (eleven years ago) link

FYI - and this is something that few ever consider with beer - but I believe one 12oz. bottle runs about 500 calories. That's like a hot fudge sundae with whipped cream, which to be fair sounds about as good as this beer tastes. I read someone describe it as "like drinking the richest coffee and the darkest chocolate at the same time, just without the coffee and chocolate - a kind of husky and smooth darkness that defies explanation other than to say, 'That beer is very dark and heavy, as if drinking the end of a black hole.'"

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 December 2012 23:16 (eleven years ago) link

Pretty sure I've had a 2500 calorie bourbon county night.

Jeff, Monday, 3 December 2012 23:26 (eleven years ago) link

i have no issues with booziness in beer but even with that in mind i think this year's bcbs is drinking excellently right away.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:01 (eleven years ago) link

That's the fun of it, right? I'm sure it tastes great now. Who knows how it will taste later? Likely still great, but probably a little different.

One point people have brought up is that at or around 15%ABV, it's probably good for a lot longer than 5 years. I mean, that's boozier than wine, so if stored correctly, there's no reason BCS can't go much longer.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:29 (eleven years ago) link

So no luck in calling the Binny's out in the burbs by me, or the Armanetti owned joint by me (which usually has a terrible selection anyway, but thought I'd check). BUT the guy I talked to at Binny's said he actually saw five cases at a Jewel in the West Loop of all places. So, who knows.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 03:01 (eleven years ago) link

I tried the Coney Island Mermaid Pilsner recently. Supposedly it has rye in it but it tasted pretty much like a regular pilsner to me - similar to Pilsner Urquell - which is fine by me, since that's one of my favorite beers.

o. nate, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link

xpost I highly doubt any store has five cases of BCS left at this point, let alone a Jewel. Though the craft selection has gotten pretty solid at a lot of them.

Per Jeff's recommendation, bought a bottle of the Firestone 16th Anniversary. It wasn't hard to find at all, though, which is not to say I'm not tempted to grab another to hold on to. I love the idea of beers that age in the bottle. Really strikes my collector chord.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link

Well, to be fair, the guy didn't clarify exactly when he saw the cases, so it may have been some time ago.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:36 (eleven years ago) link

True enough.

I found another two 4-packs at the River Grove Binny's! And I think they still have some coffee, and definitely Night Stalker (which I see everywhere). My wife has forbidden me from buying any more, so everyone else, give 'em a call and grab what's left.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link

Don't have the time to go anywhere the next few days, so freaking busy, so I may just miss out. I do have one connection to try this afternoon, but that'll probably be my last attempt.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

Just about everything Firestone walker puts in a barrel is good.

Jeff, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link

Since all I can seem to talk about is BCBS, this is a ridiculous lineup for a bar close to my place. Tempting to skip my company holiday party to go. http://www.paddylongs.com/goose-island-bourbon-county-stout-tap-takeover/

Jeff, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i would go to that for sure

ω (carne asada), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

that sounds like nerd central

dansplaining (dan m), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

Pretty much. Welcome to Chicago beer events.

Jeff, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

Had you read the trib link I posted upthread? The BCS guy is starting his own brewery, although my guess is you know this already.

dansplaining (dan m), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

I've really enjoyed the sips of BCS that I've had (usually courtesy Jeff) but can't bring myself to care about seeking it out. Not really interested in Dark Lord Day, either.

Sax Blatterday (jaymc), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link

Dark Lord Day takes real work. So does KBS. The fact that I was able to find so much BCS, plus variant, this late in the game - it was released in September, no? - proves that Goose Island did indeed up production and keep a lot of the product local.

My local shop had a few bottles of Firestone Walker XV Anniversary as well as the XVI.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 21:06 (eleven years ago) link

Anyone here find any BC in So Cal? Goose Island is out here, but this thread is making me want to seek out these BCs.

nickn, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 21:08 (eleven years ago) link

Still has the XV? Buy it when you go in there, I'll pay you for them. XV

Dan, yeah, I read it already. Basically gives many of the nerds that were on the fence on hating GI since the AB-InBev purchase a chance to really write them off now. I'm fine with that, more beer for me. And also excited about his new brewery.

Jeff, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link

My wife was just in Portland for the weekend, and her host had been calling around. Apparently the out of state allotments, given how much was kept for Chicago this time, were particularly paltry.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link

xpst. Whoops, finishing the first sentence. XV was a wonderful beer and I liked it better than the XVI. But both are great blends.

Jeff, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link

I may have snagged the last two XV, for me and my friend, but I can try to pop in again tomorrow and see if they have more/totally convince them I am a psycho by making three trips for the same thing in three days.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link

I can indeed confirm that BCS is still out there, and that you may find them in unusual places. The tiny, tiny 24-7 market on Wabash near my office had at least six 4-packs and one other full case as of today, from what I could see. Their beer selection is tiny, so I was really shocked to see them.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 22:52 (eleven years ago) link

So you lucked out? That's awesome news. Any chance of revealing your source. :)

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:24 (eleven years ago) link

I would imagine that the Walgreens at Fullerton and Greenview still has some. I can't imagine too many people paying $29 for a four pack at Walgreens.

Jeff, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:29 (eleven years ago) link

Can't remember if I talked about it before, but the Bayerischer bahnhof Brettanomyces lambicus is a fantastic light, sour Weisse beer. And only 3% ABV.

Jeff, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 00:24 (eleven years ago) link

See, I drink low ABV beer sometimes.

Jeff, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 00:32 (eleven years ago) link

I noticed the pendulum swinging to lambic and sour beers lately. Which is fine by me, though I'm not a huge fan.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 00:35 (eleven years ago) link

xp yeah that beer is really cool!

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 00:41 (eleven years ago) link

if it was available in six-packs for cheap i would drink a lot of it in the summer

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 00:42 (eleven years ago) link

I followed up the 3% beer with a Sierra Nevada Narwhal. Not a bad imperial stout. Tastes a little too sweet. 10.2%.

Jeff, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 00:46 (eleven years ago) link

yeah narwhal was p. good for a commonly available imp. stout.

i've been meaning to go back to storm king, that was like the imperial stout back in the day

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 00:51 (eleven years ago) link

I still need to try the Narwhal, sounds like. I wouldn't mind a good, easier to find imperial stout.

It was the Burnham Mart on Wabash, south of 8th.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 00:54 (eleven years ago) link

Per Imperial stouts, people seem to like Old Rasputin, which is all over the place.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 01:06 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah Old Rasputin is pretty good, but I don't know that I'd compare it to other Imperial Stout's I've head.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 02:37 (eleven years ago) link

if you ever see it on nitro drop what you're doing and drink that

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 02:38 (eleven years ago) link

Definitely haven't done that! Maybe Old Rasputin is just one of those that has kinda been spoiled by over-familiarity. It isn't bad, by any means, but a couple places around our house that serve good food, that's always like the one dependable not boring beer they have.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 02:41 (eleven years ago) link

Green Flash double Stout is a nice around pickup in these parts.

ω (carne asada), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 03:14 (eleven years ago) link

I've really liked all the Green Flash stuff that has made it to my regular bars. Rayon Vert, which I guess is their namesake, in particular.

dansplaining (dan m), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 03:17 (eleven years ago) link

Great Lakes blackout stout is v v good fyi

i dream of booze pinata (jjjusten), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 03:47 (eleven years ago) link

Boulevard Brewing Farmhouse Ale is really good.

One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:25 (eleven years ago) link

Ok, so I decided to participate in the office secret santa, in which we're allowed to request something, so I'm thinking beer. What's a good $20-25 beer or beer pack/set that would be reasonably available in New York?

drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link

the belgian/trappist sets are always good, i've been seeing a boulevard set around that would be fun

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link

Dozens of boxes of BCS at the south loop Binnys..

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link

I think it's only $21 there too.

Jeff, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link


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