There's a Neil Finn song? That's the first thing that's made me want to see this.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 13 December 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link
Unless it's just "Don't Dream It's Over" again, which would also be apt.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 13 December 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link
There are two songs, both quite brief
― Number None, Thursday, 13 December 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link
The Finn song might not be in the actual film. It closes both editions of the soundtrack. It should be on youtube or something, I know it got revealed a couple of weeks ago.
― the clown's reflection is incorrect (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 13 December 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link
it's a cover of "Toot It and Boot It"
― Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Thursday, 13 December 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link
it's a promo jingle for Gandalf's Gobble Melt
― the clown's reflection is incorrect (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 13 December 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link
a ballsack with tits
http://www.comingsoon.net/nextraimages/goblinking001.jpg
― SHUT UP AND GET YOUR TURKEY SCIENCE BOOKS (Austerity Ponies), Thursday, 13 December 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link
Crap.
Having just finished listening to the score 2CD and liking it very much indeed, I went over to the usual film score nerd boards to find out that the lion's share of the best stuff was not used at all by Jackson's team in the film, in favor of tons and tons of retracked cues from the LOTR recordings.
That sucks.
― the clown's reflection is incorrect (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 13 December 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link
I want him to rescore "The Hobbit" with cues from Ornette Coleman's and Shore's "Naked Lunch" score.
There. Much funnier here.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 13 December 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link
I mean, Jackson did a lot of that with Shore's stuff in the LOTR films too, but this sounds much more wholesale than what he practiced before.
― the clown's reflection is incorrect (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 13 December 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link
RIP awesome Radagast The Brown theme
AO Scott not impressed
― If I was a carpenter, and you were a douchebag (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link
Mick LaSalle: exactly one Jar Jar Binks away from being as bad as "The Phantom Menace."
― If I was a carpenter, and you were a douchebag (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:17 (eleven years ago) link
nah. It's mainly just boring and unnecessary
― Number None, Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:19 (eleven years ago) link
No one is impressed, are they? Even the people who begrudgingly respect bits of it say it is significantly, stultifyingly too long, or too silly, or too repetitive. One review pointed out that the skinnier Jackson gets, the more swollen his films become. And no one likes the frame rate.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:20 (eleven years ago) link
Jackson may have the most depressing career arc of any mainstream blockbuster director I can think of
― If I was a carpenter, and you were a douchebag (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:21 (eleven years ago) link
I was sort of excited to see this until I realized it was part 1 of 3
― 乒乓, Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:25 (eleven years ago) link
I know I'm going to see it at some point over the next week, but I admit I'm way less revved up about this than I might have even six months ago.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:26 (eleven years ago) link
The Kotaku review pointed out the lack of tension in scenes where a hundred orcs are fighting all the dwarves and you never feel like anything is really at stake, but there were quite a few such scenes in the original LOTR trilogy. As for this 'fake'-looking 48fps, the more it's described, the more interesting it sounds, and the more I kind of want to see it.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:27 (eleven years ago) link
again, I cannot believe what gluttons for punishment ILX0rs are. you guys will watch anything!
― If I was a carpenter, and you were a douchebag (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:27 (eleven years ago) link
stop encouraging them!
― If I was a carpenter, and you were a douchebag (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:28 (eleven years ago) link
I already bought my ticket, so my fate is sealed
― pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:31 (eleven years ago) link
yeah the 48fps part is the only part that sounds cool
― 乒乓, Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:34 (eleven years ago) link
I liked this bit from Anthony Lane's review (even if the Shakespeare ref is a little too Lane-ish)
Bilbo finds it: “His hand met what felt like a tiny ring of cold metal lying on the floor of the tunnel.” That is the account given by Tolkien, who knew that turning points were all the more momentous for being unadorned, but Jackson, with so much room to spare, cannot dare to underplay the crux. Instead, before Bilbo stumbles upon the ring, we see it slip from Gollum’s safekeeping, tumble in refulgent slow motion, and, on impact, give a resounding clang. (If Jackson ever films “Othello,” wait for Desdemona’s handkerchief to hit the ground like a sheet of tin.)
― Number None, Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:38 (eleven years ago) link
tbh people complaining about this being awful is the first thing that's made me want to see it
― attempt to look intentionally nerdy, awkward or (thomp), Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:41 (eleven years ago) link
before Bilbo stumbles upon the ring, we see it slip from Gollum’s safekeeping
Ugh. If I'm ever tempted to see this I should just remind myself what Jackson did to Treebeard in LOTR. (Yeah yeah I'm a tolkienerd.)
― ledge, Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:44 (eleven years ago) link
- the argt that this is an adaptation of a 250 page kids book not a 1,400 page grownups book is kind of moot, this is a film for people who already like lord of the rings! bilbo finding the ring in the hobbit (encountered naively) is just yo found a ring dood; the naive reader of the hobbit doesn't know that it is The One Ring. number of naive viewers of this film = perishingly small.- though i'm sure the above scene could be executed awfully, still.- something as heavy with incident as the hobbit could be this long in film without feeling too bloated, i think; text has powers of summary and condensation that film doesn't, and to complain that "the battle raged for three days" can't be executed in a proportionate length of film-time to one sentence of 250 pages is to miss the point- though again i don't want to defend it too prophylactically - i'm sure it could still feel awful, padded, bloated etc
― attempt to look intentionally nerdy, awkward or (thomp), Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:47 (eleven years ago) link
-think there's probably an interesting piece to be written about how advances in digital cinematography (i.e. 4K being the new aspirational standard, with 8K and upwards being thought about??) have far outpaced what CGI rendering is capable of rendering realistically
― 乒乓, Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:50 (eleven years ago) link
but CGI has always been crap. Apart from Jurassic Park
― Number None, Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:51 (eleven years ago) link
feel like there was a period during the film era when you could count on CGI to look pretty good since the transfer to film would 'smudge' it enough to make it look passable
but now everything looks so extremely plasticky
― 乒乓, Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:53 (eleven years ago) link
Crazy talk. Most people don't even notice 90% of CGI in movies.
― Gollum: "Hot, Ready and Smeagol!" (Phil D.), Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:56 (eleven years ago) link
yeah there was a whole bunch in skyfall i didn't notice (don't know if it was digital projection or not). but i think when it's fantasy orc dragon dinosaur nonsense that you know isn't real it's easier to see the flaws.
― ledge, Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:58 (eleven years ago) link
jurassic park cgi was stellar tho.
feel like everybody needs to move back to 1:100 scale models lovingly painted and detailed and then set aflame
― 乒乓, Friday, 14 December 2012 00:00 (eleven years ago) link
No idea why anyone would want the 48fps version. Haven't you ever seen that horrible motion smoothing setting on a TV?
I remember an interview with Ang Lee many years ago where he said his most successful use of CGI was in "Sense & Sensibility." That that anyone would have noticed, which I think was his point.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 December 2012 00:35 (eleven years ago) link
fuck this movie and fuck peter jackson, cheers
― first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Friday, 14 December 2012 00:47 (eleven years ago) link
This defense (!) of 48fps is one of the harshest takedowns of the film I've read yet:
http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2012/12/the_hobbit_in_48_fps_why_i_liked_the_increased_frame_rate.html
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 December 2012 00:51 (eleven years ago) link
if only the audience for this shit wasn't entirely made up of children and their parents reluctantly taking them to watch it
― A fat, shit, jittery fraud of a messageboard poster (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 December 2012 00:52 (eleven years ago) link
altho i hear at 48fps you can almost see Martin Freeman act
What parent-dragged kid will sit through 3 hours of this?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 December 2012 00:54 (eleven years ago) link
You know, Josh, for someone who isn't anticipating enjoying this, you do seem to be anticipating it a lot.
the naive reader of the hobbit doesn't know that it is The One Ring.
Nor the naive writer!
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 14 December 2012 01:27 (eleven years ago) link
i kinda do want to see this now, since everyone's talking about how bad/weird it looks, but it's been so long since i've actually seen a movie in a theater that i'm worried i might not notice the difference.
― back in judy's tenuta (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 14 December 2012 01:39 (eleven years ago) link
I anticipate lots of people not enjoying it! I find that very enjoyable.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 December 2012 01:46 (eleven years ago) link
I'm basically planning on not enjoying the movie itself but I sure do enjoy sitting in movie theaters these days.
― wongo hulkington's jade palace late night buffet (silby), Friday, 14 December 2012 02:37 (eleven years ago) link
a hugely overextended fantasy version of Come Dine With Me
irish times not bothering to pull any punches then
― first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Friday, 14 December 2012 02:48 (eleven years ago) link
i wd sit thru 6 Come Dine with Me's before i'd watch this fucker
― A fat, shit, jittery fraud of a messageboard poster (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 December 2012 02:49 (eleven years ago) link
which is p much the running time trade-off
― first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Friday, 14 December 2012 02:49 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.theonion.com/articles/the-hobbit-to-feature-53minutelong-scene-of-bilbo,30727/
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 14 December 2012 05:14 (eleven years ago) link
dying at that
― wongo hulkington's jade palace late night buffet (silby), Friday, 14 December 2012 05:57 (eleven years ago) link
this was actually pretty good...for the first hour or so. after that it goes into ridiculous nonstop action/CGI-overload mode (though the gollum riddle scene was well done). it's pretty exhausting.
― fiscal cliff huxtable (latebloomer), Friday, 14 December 2012 08:53 (eleven years ago) link