― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Thursday, 1 April 2004 22:28 (twenty years ago) link
― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Thursday, 1 April 2004 22:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Bennö (Bennö), Thursday, 1 April 2004 22:59 (twenty years ago) link
Benno, id be interested in the reponse you would receive if you called someone a fat c.. and then called someone else a black c..., i think the diffences in responses would be huge.
Not sure what you'd call dean roili tho?? Fat Mexican??
― jsa, Thursday, 1 April 2004 23:31 (twenty years ago) link
Re Rioli: I might call him a fat prick but it's almost in admiration of the fact that he's survived to play nearly 100 games despite having a body shape that couldn't be more unsuited to the game if it tried.
― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Thursday, 1 April 2004 23:35 (twenty years ago) link
"Benno, id be interested in the reponse you would receive if you called someone a fat c.. and then called someone else a black c..., i think the diffences in responses would be huge."
Both are just words describing physical attributes? I don't know - racism to me is preventing someone from opportunity due to their colour or background - not petty namecalling on a footy field...
― Bennö (Bennö), Friday, 2 April 2004 00:42 (twenty years ago) link
Not sure how I feel about this sledging, I agree that in the middle of a game if sledging starts on one side be prepared to get it back, but yes Montgomery's words were very low indeed. Rama has obviously gone through not only physically trying but mentally exhausting times with the chemo, have nothing but admiration for him being able to come back and play elite level footy again. The cynic in me says Montgomery apolgised because he got a fine, but then maybe he is sorry.
As for the physical attributes stuff then to agree calling someone a Fat C and be as offensive as calling someone a Black C, but again it is how the individual receives it - it they deem it offensive - then it is.
― Lucy Lion (Lucy Lion), Friday, 2 April 2004 01:02 (twenty years ago) link
Its about a quick wit - I tell them the only reason I'm fat is coz every time I f***ed their mum she gave me a biscuit...
― Bennö (Bennö), Friday, 2 April 2004 01:29 (twenty years ago) link
― Lucy Lion (Lucy Lion), Friday, 2 April 2004 04:05 (twenty years ago) link
regards,
REB
― Rik E Boy (Rik E Boy), Friday, 2 April 2004 04:24 (twenty years ago) link
There are sledges and there are sledges, what Brett Montgomery said crossed the line.
Are we allowed to start calling the St Kilda player a rapist?
― chrisso (chrisso), Friday, 2 April 2004 04:27 (twenty years ago) link
Do you have a red headed mate called Blue? A white haired mate called Snowy? Ever called a port fan a toothless feral? its a name based on a physical attribute...
REB, I don't necessary condone calling someone a black basta5d, but I believe it is name calling about a physical trait.
As I said before, as far as I'm concerned, racism is not allowing equal opportunity based on skin colour. Its preventing people living a normal life due to the colour of their skin, their upbringing etc.
I'm probably outta line with the rest of the world on this, but I could argu forever.
PS - Go the Pies this weekend... avagoodweekend the rest of ya!
― Bennö (Bennö), Friday, 2 April 2004 05:28 (twenty years ago) link
Aboriginals were not even included in the census in this country until 1967 so it is not a case of 'pc gone mad' but rather some belated enlightenment and a half-arsed attempt at real equality that is going on today.
*steps down off of soapbox*
― Rik E Boy (Rik E Boy), Friday, 2 April 2004 06:09 (twenty years ago) link
If that's quick wit I hope I never see an example of slow wit.
― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Friday, 2 April 2004 07:53 (twenty years ago) link
― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Friday, 2 April 2004 07:55 (twenty years ago) link
Personal attacks should be out of bounds on the full, no free kick, no possession, no 50 metre penalty but a bloody big fine, and a weeks rest depending on the severity!
As for the soapbox - I'm staying on it!
― Lucy Lion (Lucy Lion), Friday, 2 April 2004 23:36 (twenty years ago) link
ps - Lions are gay.
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― Rik E Boy (Rik E Boy), Saturday, 3 April 2004 01:57 (twenty years ago) link
As usual Caro nails it. I missed her on 'Talking Footy'. Also Rohan Connolly on Essendon (his team) is also interesting, although you gotta wonder what the motivation for the article was. He basically accuses Essendon of being all bluff and bulldust nowadays.
― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Saturday, 3 April 2004 07:11 (twenty years ago) link
The fact that these things happened before my lifetime should not make me accountable for them occuring. In the civilisation I live in in 2004, I do believe that opportunity is as close to equal as it has EVER been.
Yes, people get descriminated against for age, height, weight, sex, sexual preference, skin colour, religious beliefs and a plethora of other reasons, but the basic fabric of society, rights and obligations are available to every person regardless of social or racial upbringing.
As for personal attacks, ffs, what happens on the field stays on the field (within reason), you have a beer with your opponent after the game and any ill feelings is left there.
― Bennö (Bennö), Sunday, 4 April 2004 21:59 (twenty years ago) link
Exactlty WTF is it about the 'right' to slag off a bloke who's got cancer, that makes it worth anybody's while to put up an argument for?
― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Sunday, 4 April 2004 22:30 (twenty years ago) link
I go back to what I said at the start - Rama mouthed off at Montgomery in the heat of a footy match, so in response, Montgomery gave him a mouth full back. Montgomerys was below the belt, but probably never have happened if Rama hadn't fired off irst.
If you start a verbal war, don't go running to your mummy or the media if you cop a low shot...
As for this, its end of story. Apology made, headlines printed, story over. Lets get back to footy!
― Bennö (Bennö), Sunday, 4 April 2004 23:34 (twenty years ago) link
You would have to be kidding. Do you really beleive that sh1t??? Ramma gave him a FOOTY related sledge, what the Port idiot gave him was highly PERSONAL, if you don't know the difference I can't help you. The Port idiot should have reminded him that Essendon always lose to Port in the finals or somethying akin, there was no need to get personal.
― chrisso (chrisso), Monday, 5 April 2004 10:12 (twenty years ago) link
Or can I assume that you have never said anything in an argument and regretted it before the words came out of your mouth?
― Bennö (Bennö), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 01:22 (twenty years ago) link
Of course I have said things in the heat of the moment I have regretted, but I can honestly say I have never gone as low as to tease or taunt someone about a life threatening condition. Benno, you are defending the indefensible.
P.S He wouldn't need 5 minutes to work out that Port have dominated Essendon recently, he only needed to look at the scoreboard.;-)
― chrisso (chrisso), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 08:41 (twenty years ago) link
bump
― map, Thursday, 19 May 2016 22:18 (seven years ago) link
― “bad” mothers, rebel mamas, and other radical/transgressive moms (nakhchivan), Thursday, 19 May 2016 22:24 (seven years ago) link
Additionally, he became acquainted with Ernst Ortlepp, an eccentric, blasphemous, and often drunken poet who was found dead in a ditch weeks after meeting the young Nietzsche
― “bad” mothers, rebel mamas, and other radical/transgressive moms (nakhchivan), Saturday, 21 May 2016 19:05 (seven years ago) link
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― a mom shaped pom (wins), Saturday, 21 May 2016 20:38 (seven years ago) link
Most talented wife beater?
― a mom shaped pom (wins), Saturday, 21 May 2016 20:40 (seven years ago) link
I found about 50 empty nitrous cartridges and empty packaging (Ultra-Purewhip). I know which tenant is using them (not for whipping cream). This is not the first time I've found these cartridges. Not quite sure what to do with this info but I am alarmed by it.
― sarahell, Friday, 27 May 2016 21:33 (seven years ago) link