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how do you pronounce dyao's lager beer

bant me til I fart (cozen), Friday, 4 January 2013 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

sugarloaf ska

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 4 January 2013 20:48 (eleven years ago) link

two of the most delicious beers i've had have been porters -

troegs dead reckoning and the founders porter are both ridiculously tasty. can anyone recommend other readily available porters to try? such a joy to drink

Mordy, Monday, 7 January 2013 20:54 (eleven years ago) link

smuttynose, fuller's

an eagle named "small government" (call all destroyer), Monday, 7 January 2013 20:55 (eleven years ago) link

sinebrychoff is pretty great. duck-rabbit baltic porter, flying dog gonzo (barrel-aged version, if you can find it, is especially good). great lakes edmund fitzgerald. deschutes black butte. captain lawrence makes a nice one, the name of which escapes me.

scream blahula scream (govern yourself accordingly), Monday, 7 January 2013 20:59 (eleven years ago) link

i don't know if my bottle of edmund fitzgerald was bad but i was really disappointed in that beer

an eagle named "small government" (call all destroyer), Monday, 7 January 2013 21:00 (eleven years ago) link

Had another Trader Joe's 2012 Vintage Ale, the best under $5, 750 ml, 9% abv beer you'll ever drink (made by Unibroue).

Yup, I've already gone thru a few bottles of that this season.

― jaymc, Friday, January 4, 2013 9:51 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

me too. I am quite a stan of this beer, as I may already have made clear in this thread. They do indeed also have a Unibroue-brewed golden ale now as well, which I intend to pick up. However for the time being I'm working through my $22 3x750ml (plus very nice glass) Ommegang gift set (that I bought for myself) from Costco. Hennepin is fantastic. Also comes with Three Philosophers Quadrupel and the kind of cornily-named Chocolate Indulgence Stout

drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Monday, 7 January 2013 21:02 (eleven years ago) link

i've had the great lakes eliot ness and christmas ale and found them pretty lackluster

Mordy, Monday, 7 January 2013 21:02 (eleven years ago) link

Deschutes is now available in Chicago! Last night I had a bottle each of Mirror Pond Pale Ale, Red Chair Pale Ale and the Black Butte Porter. All good, with the Red Chair being especially wonderful.

Almost everything I've ever had from Great Lakes has been at the very least very good.

doctor, doctor, give me the news (askance johnson), Monday, 7 January 2013 21:08 (eleven years ago) link

it's possible that it was just old - imo some great lakes stuff fades extremely quickly, and a lot of it tends to sit around on shelves for awhile. burning river is a beer i love fresh but which gets gnarly after a month or two

scream blahula scream (govern yourself accordingly), Monday, 7 January 2013 21:10 (eleven years ago) link

that's possible, i don't know how long it was sitting before it came my way.

an eagle named "small government" (call all destroyer), Monday, 7 January 2013 21:11 (eleven years ago) link

Consistently disappointed in GL's normal line up.

Jeff, Monday, 7 January 2013 21:14 (eleven years ago) link

edmund fitzgerald smelled and tasted like malt extract

an eagle named "small government" (call all destroyer), Monday, 7 January 2013 21:19 (eleven years ago) link

sounds like a wreck

Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Monday, 7 January 2013 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

boooooooo

an eagle named "small government" (call all destroyer), Monday, 7 January 2013 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

jk

an eagle named "small government" (call all destroyer), Monday, 7 January 2013 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

speaking of GL, this is a kinda dumb list http://amog.com/lifestyle/155665-10-american-cities-brew-beer/

dansplaining (dan m), Monday, 7 January 2013 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

considering the source... smh

no michigan, no credibility imo

dansplaining (dan m), Monday, 7 January 2013 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, I'm not wildly excited about any of the basic Great Lakes beers (the brewery's website lists Edmund Fitzgerald, Burning River, Commodore Perry, Eliot Ness, and Dortmunder Gold as its year-round offerings), but some of the specialties are worthwhile. Nosferatu (imperial red), for instance, is quite good. Conway's Irish Red is one of the most pleasantly surprising beers I've had -- I tried it at a friend's place, not expecting much at all, and found it very drinkable. Curious about the Blackout Stout, which I've started to see around recently.

jaymc, Monday, 7 January 2013 21:31 (eleven years ago) link

AVOID Boatswain brand beers at Trader Joe's. Admittedly I shouldn't have expected much from a $2 22oz beer that's 8-9% ABV, but yuck.

drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Monday, 7 January 2013 21:44 (eleven years ago) link

no michigan, no credibility imo

Michigan has no shortage of great breweries, but they're fairly well spread out around the state, aren't they? Grand Rapids (Founders), Kalamazoo (Bell's), Holland (New Holland), Battle Creek (Arcadia), Marshall (Dark Horse), Sawyer (Greenbush), Dexter (Jolly Pumpkin), Bellaire (Short's), etc.

jaymc, Monday, 7 January 2013 22:10 (eleven years ago) link

Grand Rapids has a bunch of others, they should prob be on a list. Some list.

Jeff, Monday, 7 January 2013 22:12 (eleven years ago) link

Speaking of I'm probably going to sign up for the Grand Rapids marathon specially to go to breweries afterwards.

Jeff, Monday, 7 January 2013 22:12 (eleven years ago) link

i have never had a founders beer i didn't like.

Mordy, Monday, 7 January 2013 22:17 (eleven years ago) link

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/17271/54379

porter talk reminded me of one of the worst beers i've ever had - bootlegger's mint chocolate porter, picked up in LA last year. kinda tasted like drinking a porter and smoking a menthol at the same time

scream blahula scream (govern yourself accordingly), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 00:45 (eleven years ago) link

hey friends,
never drink anything called a "lavender ipa"
take it from me,
ij

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 01:13 (eleven years ago) link

oh my goodness

an eagle named "small government" (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 01:25 (eleven years ago) link

at least u lived to tell the tale

an eagle named "small government" (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 01:25 (eleven years ago) link

AVOID Boatswain brand beers at Trader Joe's. Admittedly I shouldn't have expected much from a $2 22oz beer that's 8-9% ABV, but yuck.

― drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2)

Had one once (can't remember the type), I wouldn't say "yuck" but no desire to re-buy.

And I had that Avery Mephistopheles Stout (16.2% abv) that a bought a couple weeks ago. Very good on the first sips, alcohol not overwhelming, but later tastes had a very slight funkiness in the aftertaste. I was eating chili with it, and maybe that was the cause. Would like to try it again, but at almost $9 for 12 oz, it may not happen soon.

nickn, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 04:18 (eleven years ago) link

had my first founders imperial stout last night. simply outstanding imo.

an eagle named "small government" (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 04:19 (eleven years ago) link

i spent too much on beer today - got the firestone 16 anniversary ale, avec les bons voeux brasserie dupont (came w/ a nice glass!), and a dogfish head world wide stout.

i'm feeling a little guilty for splurging

Mordy, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

oooh I had that dupont last summer, very very nice

dansplaining (dan m), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 21:38 (eleven years ago) link

lol I went to a craft beer store in ATL with my sister-in-law and she and her partner spent $180 on various beers.

Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 21:46 (eleven years ago) link

It can happen.

Jeff, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 21:49 (eleven years ago) link

I think they walked out with... lemme see here, 9 6-packs and 17 big bottles? We got two huge boxes to carry them out in.

Of course two of those sixes were my Duck-Rabbits, which I then brought home

Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 21:51 (eleven years ago) link

i wasn't a partic fan of the boatswain beer from trader joe's but we LOVE the Mission St. Pale Ale around these parts -- my wife considers it her #1 favorie beer. and it is quite good.

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 21:52 (eleven years ago) link

southern tier 2xIPA best southern tier i've had to date and way tastier than the christmas ale imo.

Mordy, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:59 (eleven years ago) link

^so good, especially for the price

have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 17:06 (eleven years ago) link

The 20 most influential beers in the world

nickn, Saturday, 12 January 2013 04:04 (eleven years ago) link

or "of all time," whatevs.

nickn, Saturday, 12 January 2013 04:05 (eleven years ago) link

uh what has utopias "influenced"

an eagle named "small government" (call all destroyer), Saturday, 12 January 2013 04:16 (eleven years ago) link

decent list other than that

an eagle named "small government" (call all destroyer), Saturday, 12 January 2013 04:16 (eleven years ago) link

People making weird-ass, super strong beers and charging a lot for them seems to be a thing now. I have never heard of the Utopias, and don't know when SA started making them, but there does seem to be a small cult of hard-to-get, super-specialized, one-off beers around now. Mikeller and the like. Hardly a big trend, but worth mentioning in this context maybe.

nickn, Saturday, 12 January 2013 04:26 (eleven years ago) link

hm could be, i don't know of anything priced in the utopias range (which to me is maybe the most-unique thing abt utopias) but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

an eagle named "small government" (call all destroyer), Saturday, 12 January 2013 04:29 (eleven years ago) link

I looked at Mikeller at one point when they were doing a tasting at a local Whole Foods (ended up not going) and some of what they do is team with other brewers for one-off, very limited quantity beers, which are sometimes auctioned off for charities. They can end up going for quite a bit. A very small part of the beer market, but maybe worth noting since scarcity is a factor in beer production.

nickn, Saturday, 12 January 2013 04:54 (eleven years ago) link

Every mikeller I have had has been garbage.

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Saturday, 12 January 2013 05:09 (eleven years ago) link

Got hook

ω (carne asada), Saturday, 12 January 2013 05:28 (eleven years ago) link

Err got hooked up with some troegs scratch beer #83 called impending descent. Best stuff i've ever had from them.

ω (carne asada), Saturday, 12 January 2013 05:32 (eleven years ago) link

I still haven't tried any Mikeller, even the three that seem to be always available at Bevmo. Not saying they, or Sam Adams, are leading the beer world in a good direction, but I can see the author's point of view in saying it's an influence.

nickn, Saturday, 12 January 2013 05:35 (eleven years ago) link

uh what has utopias "influenced"

― an eagle named "small government" (call all destroyer), Saturday, 12 January 2013 04:16 (3 hours ago) Permalink

the beers from other breweries that have reused utopias barrels to age their own beers in

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Saturday, 12 January 2013 07:42 (eleven years ago) link


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