quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a rolling new york times thread

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“We both write about pretty extreme subjects and apocalyptic global scenarios,” he said a few days earlier at a coffee shop in San Francisco. In the title essay of “Last Girlfriend,” for example, every woman but one is believed dead. And in “What in God’s Name,” a novel he published last August, the world is set to explode unless two 20-somethings kiss. (Spoiler: They do and then go out for Indian food.)

jesus christ.

JoeStork, Monday, 7 January 2013 03:51 (eleven years ago) link

the lede of that story is hilarious... "nepotism is hard... people might think you've benefited greatly from nepotism"

J0rdan S., Monday, 7 January 2013 03:52 (eleven years ago) link

also the nyt paid for this writer to go to san fran & nola to interview frank rich's kids. i need that gig.

J0rdan S., Monday, 7 January 2013 03:53 (eleven years ago) link

why would you want to talk to them?

wmlynch, Monday, 7 January 2013 03:54 (eleven years ago) link

i would consider it an acceptable price to pay for getting to chill in SF & NO on someone else's dime

J0rdan S., Monday, 7 January 2013 03:55 (eleven years ago) link

Many have stumbled along the way. Just ask Susan Cheever (whose books document her struggles with alcoholism and sex addiction), or David Updike (how could one possibly be as prolific as Dad?), or Scottie Fitzgerald, whose career was forever shadowed by that of her parents, F. Scott and Zelda Fitzgerald. “In my next incarnation,” Ms. Fitzgerald once wrote, “I may not choose again to be the daughter of a Famous Author. The pay is good and there are fringe benefits, but the working conditions are too hazardous.”

This is a batshit fantasy way of looking at things -- isn't it more likely that these writers just aren't as good as their parents and only got as far as they did on their names?

drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Monday, 7 January 2013 03:59 (eleven years ago) link

i like how nathaniel is all "i did tons of research on disaster zones for my novel, so i'll never live in seattle" meanwhile he lives in new orleans. cool story.

J0rdan S., Monday, 7 January 2013 04:02 (eleven years ago) link

xp

i dunno, it's not that hard to feature that being the child of a revered famous writer could fuck you up. of course a lot may also depend on the parenting abilities of said writers.

JoeStork, Monday, 7 January 2013 04:05 (eleven years ago) link

I usta see Frank at the movies with his kids quite often about 15 years ago, sounds like they were more interesting then!

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Monday, 7 January 2013 15:15 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

this already got bumped in the other quiddities thread

somebody should close one of the two

iatee, Monday, 21 January 2013 16:44 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

I didn't dare click through to a "The Hunt" story that began thus:

A Vote for the East Village

After looking in Morningside Heights for an apartment to buy, Kat Gang realized she did not want to leave the East Village after all.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 18:51 (eleven years ago) link

feel like the East Village hardly needs the help

Women, Fire, and Dangerous Zings (silby), Thursday, 14 February 2013 02:27 (eleven years ago) link

I mostly associate the east village with awful, cramped apartments and NYU students. Seems like the kind of place that was only cool once because it was cheap. Not all that charming otherwise.

space phwoar (Hurting 2), Thursday, 14 February 2013 04:23 (eleven years ago) link

caring for a father with dementia kinda levels out the quid/ag quotient somewht

Even by Zales standards, that's sad. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 February 2013 16:37 (eleven years ago) link

yeah I agree that took me out of it a little, but I mean:

The Fieldens lived for a month with friends, and then moved into a rental apartment, followed by another rental in a farmhouse. They threw themselves into the quagmire of insurance and cleanup that follows a disaster. When it became clear that the most pragmatic thing to do was rebuild the house — not an easy or joyful decision, they said, because what you really want to do after a catastrophic fire is walk away — Robert Dean and Jesse Carrier, the architect and designer who had rehabbed the house in 2007, helped them with this rebuild.

“The object becomes, how do we create a place that reflects who we are but doesn’t own us,” Ms. Fielden said.

Her husband added: “Or put us in debt.”

This time around, there is a lot more Ikea, Ms. Fielden said, than “Jesse is probably used to.”

Built by James Evans, a protégé of Louis Kahn, the house had all the optimism of its period, as Mr. Dean put it recently, “when architects thought they had made a breakthrough to a fresh new time.” It had all the drawbacks as well: tiny bedrooms, cheap materials, awkward connecting spaces. So the new house, into which the Fieldens moved last summer, is a nearly perfect design — open and light, yet private and safe — seasoned as it is by their experience.

Not all their belongings were ruined. Mr. Fielden saved half of his books, along with artwork by Irving Penn and by his own children, and some family furniture. Ms. Fielden’s Madam Alexander dolls, which Mr. Fielden’s mother painstakingly cleaned up and now live in Eliza’s room, have only slightly blackened eyes.

space phwoar (Hurting 2), Friday, 22 February 2013 16:51 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

going to the right restaurants is at least as important as going to the right schools.

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Monday, 11 March 2013 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

You're a bore and rube if you haven't eaten where everybody has eaten.

'boor' nor 'bore' iirc

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Monday, 11 March 2013 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

not*

ugh

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Monday, 11 March 2013 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

i think' bore' works there because british

乒乓, Monday, 11 March 2013 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

boar

lag∞n, Monday, 11 March 2013 19:33 (eleven years ago) link

A world where eating out is more life or death than ER surgery

dude seriously.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 11 March 2013 19:34 (eleven years ago) link

this guy has no idea where to eat in new york, clearly.

s.clover, Monday, 11 March 2013 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

lol

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 11 March 2013 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

my takeaway is that i need an assistant

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 11 March 2013 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

disgusting savages

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Monday, 11 March 2013 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

no matter how far flung your neighborhood is, there are no ethnic foods and local diners? suuuuure

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Monday, 11 March 2013 19:37 (eleven years ago) link

hah i know there are ethnic foods and local diners in every neighborhood

lag∞n, Monday, 11 March 2013 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

but i guess metaphorically or something there are not

lag∞n, Monday, 11 March 2013 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

but are they WORTHY, lagoon.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 11 March 2013 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

no obvs not you would of course drop some one who brought you there

lag∞n, Monday, 11 March 2013 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

"WTF is this dark, small place? YOU'RE DROPPED!!!" - overturns table, storms out of diner

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 11 March 2013 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

I dunno what it says about me that at least half of my favorite places to eat are a) dark and b) small

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 11 March 2013 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

I guess I'm dropped, in life

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 11 March 2013 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

ur dropped sry

lag∞n, Monday, 11 March 2013 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

;_;

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 11 March 2013 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

older manhattan residents trekking to brooklyn looking confused excited and out of place is a real and kinda funny thing tho, you just want to say to them you know its not really any better right

lag∞n, Monday, 11 March 2013 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

You're a bore and rube if you haven't eaten where everybody has eaten

Ironically, saying something like this makes you about as boring (and boorish) as they come. And also a rube.

space phwoar (Hurting 2), Monday, 11 March 2013 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

boorish, rubbish

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 11 March 2013 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

hate the game not the player xp

lag∞n, Monday, 11 March 2013 19:58 (eleven years ago) link

I dunno what it says about me that at least half of my favorite places to eat are a) dark and b) small

wrong thread

iatee, Monday, 11 March 2013 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

Modern life has become a three- and often four- or five-meal-a-day restaurant habit. There is the breakfast meeting. At one time, egg-white-only breakfast meetings were a behaviour limited to fat cats - but fat-cat rituals are what we all emulate. So now it's unthinkable for the rest of us to begin a day without a breakfast meeting (the most important meeting of the day). We are all would-be entrepreneurs, or creative collaborators, or producers of you-name-it, trying to woo potential partners over porridge.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 11 March 2013 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

what the hell is this guy talking about

christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 11 March 2013 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

"yeah so this taqueria is like a super exclusive place, it's wicked hard to get a table but i know the owner so it's cool yeah there he is YO WHAT UP DAWG HOW U DOIN" *daps*

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Monday, 11 March 2013 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

if i had to have breakfast meetings id prob write columns that read like suicide notes too

lag∞n, Monday, 11 March 2013 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

the more i think about this piece, the better it gets, especially when read in the voice of grandpa simpson.

s.clover, Monday, 11 March 2013 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

im imagining it written in the locked bathroom of a restaurant michael wolfe couldnt get a reservation to, the staff are banging on the door saying the restaurant is full try coming back after 1030

lag∞n, Monday, 11 March 2013 20:08 (eleven years ago) link


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