▼Arbre Mort▼ aka Willow Smith

Sorry NA I felt bad because that was mean.

i didn't take it as mean, just a joke, so it's cool. anyways i just didn't understand maura's point but what localgarda says makes sense and i don't know what i'm doing posting in this thread anyways.

I sort of felt the point could just as easily go the other way too.

i would tie it more to people trying to write these kinds of songs that are intentionally vague and so easily universalized before calling it a metacommentary on extended adolescence but that's just me

There should be a video where a sad Will Smith drops rose petals into the river, and then pushes a volume of Tennyson off on a raft surrounded by candles.

but intentional vagueness is a sign of immaturity

how so

How not?

It's what people who don't understand poetry write when they think they're writing poetry.

no, it's a tool/technique. it's something that can be used immaturely or maturely, but not something that is itself mature or immature.

intentional vagueness? Why on earth would you want to be intentionally vague? Who would want a vague tool?

Who wants to read/listen to intentional vagueness? If you know something you had better tell it to me. Stop being vague intentionally.

how do u feel about ambiguity

Ambiguity is great but it's not vagueness and it's not really a tool or a technique. It's more like trying to say something precisely and recognizing complexity without reducing it to an either/or.

Willow going down the same path as her mother is a lot more preferable to Willow going down the same path as her brother:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFOBd0TWgws

http://i.imgur.com/sFkFz.jpg

lol

Not as good as my early teen German army jacket upon the back of which I lovingly transcribed the lyrics to 'Transmission' by Joy Division. Pah!

Awwww bless her heart.

i kept expecting them to do something with that radiohead sample but man

Did anyone manage to get an mp3 of this? Warner Chappell keeps taking it down.

ya I just tried to go to the Soundcloud page & got 404'd... dang

As a francophone I feel I have to point out it's actually a saule *pleureur* not pleurant.

you really don't get more quintessentially teenage than gothy puns on your own name in bad french

Came here on lex's recommendation but I can't access the soundcloud link - is there another link?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TytCZo4VPk

I love how the whole aesthetic is such Lex catnip that he was even able to take a peverse glee in the Radiohead sample.

Holy sh-- well, that's something else. Some pretty complex stuff goin on there, musically and emotionally, especially let alone for a 12 (!) yr old. I thought this was going to be the codex cover I'd heard speak of, but obv this is another track. If this is goth (and yeah, inject me with darkness qualifies it), it's the mopier teenage angst side of goth as opposed to the horrorshow type of goth I was alluding to on the EOY thread, but I'm glad you showed me this Lex.

Oh wait, no, it is Codex! Goes to show how many times I've made it all the way through King Of Limbs. Wait, isn't King Of Limbs also a reference to a tree?

did we talk about 'kite' yet

http://25.media.tumblr.com/458aa02d758422d37d008e9463d5cf98/tumblr_mmib1yC8Er1qc2vjzo1_500.jpg

it's a shop

http://www.bet.com/shows/bet-awards/2012/photos/style/ford-presents-bet-awards-2012-red-carpet.html#!070112-shows-beta-willow-jaden-smith

yeah I realized that like 30 sec after I posted it ;_;

people are really out here photoshopping willow smith red carpet shots

https://soundcloud.com/dhatu/5-feat-jaden

I love how the original song on this thread is some dire gloomy glop based on Radiohead but lex likes it because it's willow smith

lol

I was wondering what she was doing recently and apparently she released a free EP two days ago and it's... okay

https://play.google.com/store/music/album?id=Bfw6naziykwxmgq6d7pe5wpwm6y&PAffiliateID=100l3tb

http://tmagazine.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/11/17/jaden-and-willow-smith-exclusive-joint-interview/?_r=2

Jaden and Willow have given what may be my favorite interview of 2014

You mentioned breathing earlier, and it’s also an idea that recurs in your songs.

WILLOW: Breathing is meditation; life is a meditation. You have to breathe in order to live, so breathing is how you get in touch with the sacred space of your heart.

JADEN: When babies are born, their soft spots bump: It has, like, a heartbeat in it. That’s because energy is coming through their body, up and down.

WILLOW: Prana energy.

JADEN: It’s prana energy because they still breathe through their stomach. They remember. Babies remember.

WILLOW: When they’re in the stomach, they’re so aware, putting all their bones together, putting all their ligaments together. But they’re shocked by this harsh world.

JADEN: By the chemicals and things, and then slowly…

WILLOW: As they grow up, they start losing.

JADEN: You know, they become just like us.

interview should've been conducted via twitter imo

I can only handle a sentence or two of this at a time

pound for pound the best celebrities in america right now

also their sibling bond is inspiring

this is awesome

What are some of the themes that recur in your work?

JADEN: The P.C.H. being one of them; the melancholiness of the ocean; the melancholiness of everything else.

WILLOW: And the feeling of being like, this is a fragment of a holographic reality that a higher consciousness made.

JADEN: [bursts into laughter] As soon as me and Willow started releasing music, that’s one thing that the whole world took away is, okay, they unlocked another step of honesty. If these guys can be honest about everything, then we can be more honest.

I don't even know what "honesty" means in this context

pranasty

okay lmfao at Jaden: "I still haven’t been to driver’s ed because if everybody I know has been in an accident, I can’t see how driver’s ed is really helping them out."

So, The 1st, then. Far less WTF than the last album but still pretty singular. "And Contentment" is the pick of the bunch for me.