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i would never, ever use the word "classic" about an album in its week of release lol

save that for the kendrick stans

― lex pretend, Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:00 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no but you said "MASTERPIECE" same thing

bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

on a more substantive note, it's "the proof was in the flood"??

goole, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

the flood of pudding, obv

some dude, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

i guess that makes sense next to "hurricane"

goole, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah, I'd always heard that as "in the blood" and still do

The Reverend, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

"classic" has connotations of standing the test of time, "masterpiece" is a more subjective thing

xp "the proof is in my blood"

lex pretend, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

the beginning of the video says "chapter one: the proof was in the flood" though

some dude, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh weird so do those official lyrics - the lyric docs the PR sent me say "in the blood"

WHO KNOWS

lex pretend, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

her lip-syncing looks like "flood" to me. kind of.

goole, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

abiguity!! 10/10 classic!!

goole, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

haha

DJP, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

you mean Masterpiece

rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

I always thought she was talking about katrina and the resulting flooding.

prolego, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah that makes sense, with the line about hurricanes coming before it. duhhh @ me

lex pretend, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

I’ve been searching
Trying to find my way back
My way back to the throne
And I know If I could
climb, crawl, fall
Break these walls
Then maybe I’ll get home
I’m building it up
To break it back down
We’re building it up
To burn it down
We can’t wait
To burn it to the ground

Evan R, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

Listening again and the Riot - Gleaux - Pretty Wicked Things section is a real drag, which is weird given they're the bangers, but they've got the sort of dead-eyed detachment you expect from lesser artists/complete hacks.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 17:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

From 86 to the end is unfuckable with though.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 18:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

86 heart heart heart

probably the song I'll direct Dawn newcomers to from now on

Evan R, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 18:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

just the song, not the video

queef ka queef (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 18:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

haha yeah

some dude, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 18:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

The intro to "Gleaux" is gorgeous.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 18:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

hahah, there are so many landmines to tip toe when trying to sell Dawn. "no, no, I swear, it doesn't sound like Danity Kane." "Yeah, but that Dirty Money was actually really good though, for real." "Just ignore the Xena warrior princess shit."

She doesn't make it easy.

Evan R, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 18:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

why would anyone think there's anything wrong with danity kane, dirty money or xena warrior princess?

lex pretend, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 18:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

you already KNOW that most of the people listening to her solo records never checked for Danity Kane, what's with the act

some dude, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 18:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

i mean i get they're not the ~trendy~ buzzwords du jour and if she was all 80s reverb triangles self-pitying melancholy seapunk chillwave hanging out with grizzly bear you could sell her way easier but why would you want that?

lex pretend, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 18:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

did danity kane even have a big enough profile to put anyone off?

lex pretend, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 18:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

on a more substantive note, it's "the proof was in the flood"??

― goole, Tuesday, January 15, 2013 11:11 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the f is actually an old-timey s, she's singing the proof was in the slood, like you know how a slood is... wait

乒乓, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 18:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

Danity Kane weren't unavoidably huge but i mean two #1 albums ain't bad as public profiles go

some dude, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 18:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

I don't think Danity Kane was very good. But the bigger problem with that reference point is that Danity Kane was the quintessential manufactured band—literally pieced together on television. Dawn's solo albums, though, are defined by her autonomy.

I'm not assigning values to either approach or saying one is better than the other, but it makes the Danity Kane reference point doubly misleading

Evan R, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 18:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

Ahem anyway going back to talking about the album - I think the fact that exactly the same vocal treatment is used on every single track goes some way towards explaining accusations of samey-ness. I'm not really that keen on the autotune that's all over this, she's evidently got a great voice and it just flattens everything out, especially the high notes and melisma when she should be sounding her most expressive. It gets kind of frustrating after an hour. I mean she used the same trick over most of Armor On so maybe I wouldn't care if the songs were better but I can't help but feel a lack of joie de vivre here.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 18:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

http://youtu.be/JqQ-vL2AinQ

Evan R, Friday, 18 January 2013 15:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

OK, I'll bite the bullet and admit I don't know how to embed YouTube videos on this site anymore. What am I doing wrong?

Evan R, Friday, 18 January 2013 15:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

Don't do the short version of the address. Do the full version.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 January 2013 15:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

the URL (without spaces) should look like:

http:// www.youtube.com/ watch?v=[videoID]

URLs that start with that pattern will autoembed. Don't use the shortened share URL and don't use secured (https) URLs

Bel-Air the Fresh Prince, sitting in a chair (DJP), Friday, 18 January 2013 15:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

Thanks! OK, lemme try this...

Evan R, Friday, 18 January 2013 15:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

Terrible. Sorry everybody.

Evan R, Friday, 18 January 2013 16:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

Dope

queef ka queef (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, 18 January 2013 16:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

Wow I really like this whole album.

I will contribute this which I feel has some sonic similarities to Goldenheart (mostly the hand claps).

hurricane weather (forapper), Friday, 18 January 2013 22:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

confused as to how there somehow isn't a pop track to rally around. like, actually mystified. how is "Riot" not blatantly, completely that? does it need to cram in *more* radio trends (house beat, 4/4 handclaps, squelchy synth, vocal stutters, the MELODY FROM MOVES LIKE JAGGER EVEN)? (n.b. I really like "Riot" but ffs) "Pretty Wicked Things" has a fucking dubstep drop! I mean, sure, this probably is not going to go anywhere near radio, any format, but those are marketing factors, not anything in the music. (and I've love to be proven wrong)

oh, and I really, really like this album, a lot more than _Armor On_. which I did hear and wasn't as impressed as others. "Frequency" probably most slept on track.

katherine, Friday, 18 January 2013 23:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

Love this album.

MikoMcha, Saturday, 19 January 2013 04:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

"'86" is the single, makes sense to me as the most accessible song on the album even if i don't see it helping her odds of ever getting on the radio.

the legend of bigger yansh (some dude), Saturday, 19 January 2013 04:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

Not sure if 86 is especially the most accessible - it is one of my favorites - but my only complaint about this album is that there's a lot to take in And that I could have probably done without the title track...

MikoMcha, Saturday, 19 January 2013 04:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

Agreed re title track. As a general rule Dawn is better when the music is honed in on rhythms so it stands to reason that a piano ballad would be a stretch.

Mind you I've only gotten this in the last few hours and listened to it once. What did strike me though is that in some ways this reminds me more of #A Tell-Tale Heart than Armor On - that sense of consistency of vibe and the flow from track to track being more important than the individual songwriting.

"Frequency" hit me hardest on the first run through.

Tim F, Saturday, 19 January 2013 04:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

'accessible' is kind of subjective, i guess, i just meant a slow jam like "'86" has a little more mainstream potential than most of the stuff on the album. she's good at those kinds of songs but hasn't done them much since A Tell-Tale Heart xp

the legend of bigger yansh (some dude), Saturday, 19 January 2013 04:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

"86" does sound amazing on this though, it just feels so relaxed and open.

Tim F, Saturday, 19 January 2013 04:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

for it, I have lifted my embargo on 21st century records named after years from the 20th century

the legend of bigger yansh (some dude), Saturday, 19 January 2013 04:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

i love "86" (so, so much) but actually for me it makes less of an impact surrounded by the rest of the album than it did as a standalone single

teledyldonix, Saturday, 19 January 2013 04:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

This album reminds me a lot of Kylie Minogue's 'Impossible Princess' (sans the latter's rock tracks), oddly. It would have been tremendously important to me at fifteen I suspect.

Tim F, Saturday, 19 January 2013 07:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

Cumulatively it's wearing, hence not as effective as Armor On; at times her vocal melodies are barely there.

Keepers so far: 86, Return of a Queen, Frequency, In Your Eyes, Pretty Wicked Things.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 January 2013 13:14 (1 year ago) Permalink


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