Pink Floyd vs Radiohead

how does one measure a band's "intelligence"?

how well did they take down capitalism

did they take it all the way down or just a little bit down

how does one measure a band's "intelligence"?

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i was just gonna say

Rog, Thom: If a train is travelling 15 miles per hour in a southerly direction and there's a 20 minute spacerock jam 2 miles down the road at what speed is the train travelling when you go down the rabbithole

(whereas TKOL is imvho up there with rh's best albums, a work of enormously satisfying subtlety)

intelligence measured in the extent of intellectual grappling w/ musical ideas, the presentation of the text, the sense albeit subjective of avenues considered

....

so how do you judge that PF is less intelligent than Radiohead, based on your criteria

A seasoned witch could call you from the depths of your disgrace
And rearrange your liver to the solid mental grace

how does one measure a band's "intelligence"?

presumably by how unhappy they are about being filthy rich

for me, pink floyd are much more instinctual and 'see if it sticks' than radiohead, who seem to want to exert an enormous amount of control and active mental participation in the process of releasing music

not saying that intelligence is preferable - sometimes instinct is! perhaps 'considered' would have been a better word. one thing that stops me from loving radiohead more is their relative inability to let go and jam out a little, or risk writing longer/more convoluted songs

for me, pink floyd are much more instinctual and 'see if it sticks' than radiohead

I feel like you've never actually heard Pink Floyd

i feel you've never sat through a fucking momentary lapse of fucking reason

an album that couldn't be stupider if it agggh not now, not again

lol no, I knew better than that

imago, do you listen to music

:D

Putting aside who gives a good goddamn whether music is "instinctual" or not, I don't see how the most casual of listens to TDSOTM reveals a record made by people who threw ideas against the wall to see what would stick.

it's just, how do you call a band that released multiple overaching thematic concept albums "instinctual"

they just hit record and jammed that DSOTM out dude!

hell A Momentary Lapse of Reason, despite sounding like its title, unfolds like they worried every solo to death.

they threw 10 albums at The Wall, i guess you could say

and they missed imago, apparently

I actually think this has some really good background info on how DSotM was created, especially re the making of "Money", despite being a VH1 special: http://youtu.be/GLqkwGfwajs

david gilmour vocoder segments were a real neat idea then

floyd had less quality-control imo, but their best moments were wide-eyed psych genius. sorry for treading on y'all toes. out

iatee the wall is a double album about the soullessness of exurban living don't you see

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"We gotta gig tonight Roger?"

"Yeah, I guess, I dunno, you lads turn up at the club around 8, we'll write up a set list and wing it"

loool

haha

Number of Radiohead recordings I own = 1 (no points for guessing it's "Creep")
Number of Floyd recordings I own = ALL THE PINK FLOYDS

Wait, I think I have an mp3 of "Anyone Can Play Guitar" on my hard drive somewhere.

oh ffs - 'more intelligence' referred to content, not form - pf were damn smart at being a massive arena band and coming up with album concepts

out for good now pax

I actually think this has some really good background info on how DSotM was created, especially re the making of "Money", despite being a VH1 special: http://youtu.be/GLqkwGfwajs

This was NOT the clip I wanted, ha! This is the clip about "Money" that I actually meant to praise!:

http://www.boreme.com/posting.php?id=23813

man everyone likes to claim they were the first ever to record/play with a tape loop don't they

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:( now I feel kinda mean (re imago)

oh, back for one last thing -

radiohead would never have had the lack of self-consciousness to knock out something so stupidly brilliant as 'corporal clegg' or 'the trial'

hope this clarifies my position re: adoring a lot of Floyd but reckoning them to have a looser grasp on their art (especially as art) than 'everything in its right place' radiohead

we get it, you think Radiohead is really smart. for some reason.

which bangles song would pink floyd have lifted?

"In Your Room" of course.

The only time Radiohead ever sounded anything LIKE Pink Floyd to me was on 'Subterranean Homesick Alien'... and possibly 'How To Disappear Completely', but that's about it.

Lucky sounds very PFish to me - guitar solo even has a bit of Gilmour about it.

thank fuck somebody has finalty had the chesgtnitys tp answer this important questioms

sup nv

as much as I love Barrett-era Floyd Radiohead have more albums I'm going to listen to again than Pink Floyd do so it's Radiohead for me

what if Yorke had gone AWOL after The Bends and every Radiohead album after that sounded like the Phil Selway solo joint

"Lucky" is def the song i think of when i hear RH/Floyd comparisons

now considering what Barret-era Floyd Radiohead would sound like

also aero ;_;

Oh wait "High and Dry" is also a good song. And that one with the video where all the people lay down in the street. I think that's it, though.

The Bends kinda sounds like "Fearless" from Meddle.

Do you mean the song or the album? I think the song "The Bends" sounds like a lot of anthemic rock music from the 20 years that precede it and really has more in common with other British rock of the same time than it does with "Fearless". It would never occur to me to compare it to "Fearless" instead of, say, "Live Forever" by Oasis. I can see it a little with "Lucky" but really, "How to Disappear Completely" is the only song that made me think of Pink Floyd in the way that, say, the White Stripes make me think of Zeppelin or the Stones at times.

Ha, unless you were being sarcastic and I missed it.