Tears for Fears: The singles

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Shout is a tuff jam

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Friday, 6 February 2009 16:12 (fifteen years ago) link

At one time this would clearly have been "Head Over Heels" for me, too. Nowadays, I have a hard time choosing between:

Pale Shelter
Mad World
Shout
Head Over Heels
Advice For The Young At Heart
Woman In Chains

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Friday, 6 February 2009 16:13 (fifteen years ago) link

youtube request: Zig & Zag on the Big Breakfast singing 'Raoul And The Kings Of Spain'

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Friday, 6 February 2009 16:14 (fifteen years ago) link

great lol college moment -- driving to The Big Football Game in a rental car with assorted scrubs while listening to extended heavy-drum remix of "Shout" over and over again until we got sick of it and then emerged on the other side of "THIS IS GENIUS"

Dimension 5ive, Friday, 6 February 2009 16:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Kick out the Council, bring back The Jam

Limoncello Carlin (The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics), Friday, 6 February 2009 16:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Sowing the steez of love?

Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 February 2009 16:39 (fifteen years ago) link

I like many of these, but the winner was the most obvious: "Everybody Wants To Rule The World". It's pretty unfuckwitable, and it's both a predictable and a credible Top 5 single of the 80s. "Mad World" was very close, though.

That said, while I like the single version of "Mother's Talk", the crazy dance remix with the Keith LeBlanc drum sounds and the Galaga samples is just off the hook.

The 12" versions of the singles are waaay underrated, like almost Soft-Cell-12"-version good.

System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Friday, 6 February 2009 16:48 (fifteen years ago) link

And to reissue my dan, I really like the Sowing The Seeds album, although it wasn't until recently that I purchased it. Nothing stands out as a single on it for me though, which may(?) have been the intention.

System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Friday, 6 February 2009 16:50 (fifteen years ago) link

i heard their cover of 'Ashes To Ashes' on Spotify

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Friday, 6 February 2009 16:50 (fifteen years ago) link

well aside from "Sowing the Seeds Of Love" song itself, haha

System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Friday, 6 February 2009 16:50 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost

System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Friday, 6 February 2009 16:50 (fifteen years ago) link

hahax2, to reassure my dan.

I don't think Dan needs to be reissued.

System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Friday, 6 February 2009 16:51 (fifteen years ago) link

The special edition would come with bonus tracks, though. And liner notes!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 February 2009 16:55 (fifteen years ago) link

"We have remastered this Dan to provide maximum entertainment value."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 February 2009 16:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Went for "Pale Shelter", too. ("You don't give me love, you give me cold hands.")

Disappointed that they haven't released a decent DVD collection of their videos. Or have they?

There's the 20th Century Masters (?) collection, but that's a ripoff for an incomplete handful of videos.

Watching their dance gestures in "Change" and "Mad World" makes me very, very happy.

scampering alpaca, Friday, 6 February 2009 17:03 (fifteen years ago) link

"Pharaohs" on the b-side of "Rule the World" is incredible.

jed_, Friday, 6 February 2009 17:14 (fifteen years ago) link

It's a toss-up between "Head Over Heels" and "Everybody Wants to Rule the World," but I went with the former.

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Friday, 6 February 2009 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link

i heard their cover of 'Ashes To Ashes' on Spotify

― O Supermanchiros (blueski), Friday, 6 February 2009 16:50 (44 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

It's only when you get to the line "I'm happy, hope you're happy too" you realise it's Not David Bowie!

Mark G, Friday, 6 February 2009 17:36 (fifteen years ago) link

HI DERE cld you explain to me why I should not skip 'Woman in Chains' every single time.

This is the comp of theirs that I own:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2084/2084883745_393be4473d.jpg

and then the Hurting & Big Chair, so like half of this stuff I don't know!

Always wondered if Orzabal was Basque, he's got the right kind of surname. Always wanted my basquo friend to marry him so their last name could be Orzabal-Oyarzabal.

i'm shy (Abbott), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Also they defs made the only good songs inspired by Janovian scream therapy (I'm eying you with contempt here, John Lennon).

i'm shy (Abbott), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Definitely Iberian in background, it's why the one album/song was called "Raoul and the Kings of Spain."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 February 2009 18:22 (fifteen years ago) link

easily head over heels

then i'd like to say either elemental or break it down again but would feel bad doing so as that's when dudes broke up and the one went off with an entirely new band

fauxmarc, Friday, 6 February 2009 18:22 (fifteen years ago) link

When I was a little girl, I thought "Everybody Wants to Rule the World" was about the fall of the Berlin wall.

i'm shy (Abbott), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Also "Head Over Heels" has my favorite guitar solo ever.

i'm shy (Abbott), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:25 (fifteen years ago) link

HI DERE cld you explain to me why I should not skip 'Woman in Chains' every single time.

1. The woman singing with them is sublime on this song.
2. The "So FREEEEEEE her..." coda is breathtaking.
3. It's mellow burbling prettiness that somehow manages to expand into a wall of awesome by the end.
4. I just like the restatement of the phrase "woman in chains, simultaneously beautiful and crepey.

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Okay now why is "Suffer the Children" not on yr list?

i'm shy (Abbott), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:27 (fifteen years ago) link

"woman in chains, simultaneously beautiful and crepey"

song would be 500% better if those were the lyrics

cat anatomy expert (ledge), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:27 (fifteen years ago) link

The woman singing with them is sublime on this song

Said woman = Oleta Adams.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 February 2009 18:27 (fifteen years ago) link

HI DERE cld you explain to me why I should not skip 'Woman in Chains' every single time.

I'm not hi dere, but I love the "men of stone" with the rippling guitar and how Orzabal and Oleta Adams' vocals weave around each other without getting cheesy. Normally her intonations are too plummy for me, but she's beautifully suited for the song.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 6 February 2009 18:27 (fifteen years ago) link

I used to own a promo of Adams' Orzabal-produced debut album.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 6 February 2009 18:28 (fifteen years ago) link

I haven't listened to "Woman in Chains" for over 8 years fwiw. I should give it another go.

i'm shy (Abbott), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:28 (fifteen years ago) link

IIRC my dad's an Adams fan.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 February 2009 18:29 (fifteen years ago) link

It's a world gone crazy keeps a woman in chains.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 6 February 2009 18:37 (fifteen years ago) link

I'd forgotten that that was Oleta Adams! She's fantastic.

Okay now why is "Suffer the Children" not on yr list?

Because I don't remember how it goes!

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Friday, 6 February 2009 19:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Hahaha awesome.

i'm shy (Abbott), Friday, 6 February 2009 19:12 (fifteen years ago) link

I'd forgotten that that was Oleta Adams! She's fantastic.

Yeah, I was going, "Wait, Dan *does* know who she is, surely..."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 February 2009 19:14 (fifteen years ago) link

I voted 'everbody wants to rule the world' but I probably like it exactly as much as 'head over heels'.

I also want to rep for that semi-recent album that had "Closest Thing to Heaven" on it. It's actually pretty good.

iatee, Friday, 6 February 2009 19:18 (fifteen years ago) link

creating this poll has made me want to go to the store and buy all of their albums

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Friday, 6 February 2009 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Thursday, 12 February 2009 00:01 (fifteen years ago) link

early singles >>> everything else!

daavid, Thursday, 12 February 2009 00:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Clearly, the winner should be Mad World.

daavid, Thursday, 12 February 2009 00:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Torn between Pale Shelter, Change and Mad World.

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 12 February 2009 00:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Voted "Mad World".

Lostandfound, Thursday, 12 February 2009 03:45 (fifteen years ago) link

head over heels narrowly over pale shelter.

iro with the brown bag (Hunt3r), Thursday, 12 February 2009 04:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Love love love "Head Over Heels" and it gets my vote. But I especially love its original demo version when it was called "We Are Broken" and was the b-side to the "Pale Shelter" single. In that version, the classic riff sounds a lot like a "Computer Love" homage/ripoff.

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 12 February 2009 04:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Lots that I love here - and I hope "Everybody Loves a Happy Ending" gets a vote - but "Sowing the Seeds of Love" is one of my favorite songs ever. I'm a sucker for every manipulative conceit they pull out of their hat there.

Joseph McCombs, Thursday, 12 February 2009 06:32 (fifteen years ago) link

i had to vote for "Pale Shelter" though, at the time, it would have gone to "Change" or the obvious "Head Over Heels."

Bee OK, Thursday, 12 February 2009 07:04 (fifteen years ago) link

They never managed to top "Mad World", although "Sowing The Seeds Of Love" was a great single from a somewhat less great (except great sounding) album.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 12 February 2009 12:09 (fifteen years ago) link

HAAAAAAAAAAAATED this band when they were around but it took Donnie Darkos usage of Head Over Heels me relise it was actually a good song, damn nostalgia caught myself singing along to Wham the other day :((

X-101, Thursday, 12 February 2009 12:16 (fifteen years ago) link

creating this poll has made me want to go to the store and buy all of their albums

I bought The Hurting and The Seeds of Love. Both are fucking awesome and I'm kind of shocked at how much of The Hurting Kenna has ripped off in terms of song construction/feel.

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Thursday, 12 February 2009 12:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Hahah. Alex, I need you to stick up for the good fight, here. There's not many left of us now who will.

What happened to Stewart Osbourne? The Damned fan? Remember him?

I was still more rock and roll than anyone needed for the album (Bimble), Saturday, 9 May 2009 12:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Colonel Poo is our ally, though, make no mistake, he is cool as shit. I just don't get to chat with him as much as I'd like.

I was still more rock and roll than anyone needed for the album (Bimble), Saturday, 9 May 2009 12:32 (fifteen years ago) link

I have no idea. I vanished from ILX for a while and now come back sporadically. Lots of folks I remember have left or changed their names to something silly.

Alex in NYC, Saturday, 9 May 2009 12:33 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost

Anyway, thank you to this wonderful person who introduced me to the demo version of Tears For Fears' "Broken" called "We Are Broken" (single version), thank you to him, I doubt I shall ever cross his path again, but anyway, life goes on

Tears For Fears "Change" now come on, is that quality 80's music or what?

I was still more rock and roll than anyone needed for the album (Bimble), Saturday, 9 May 2009 12:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Anyway, thanks for your posts, Alex. I'm just trying to tell the young ones about real punk and post-punk and goth and maybe they're young and they don't know what we know, you know?

I was still more rock and roll than anyone needed for the album (Bimble), Saturday, 9 May 2009 12:36 (fifteen years ago) link

There are no excuses for ignorance.

Alex in NYC, Saturday, 9 May 2009 12:40 (fifteen years ago) link

hahha how bold are you! I admire it. I'm not a New Yorker, hell I'm not even a northeaster east coaster type person. But I adore you for carrying the true punk rock torch when no one else wanted to carry it :) Also I did finally visit New York last year in October and I felt a lot of peace out of it, in the end. I was surprised.

I was still more rock and roll than anyone needed for the album (Bimble), Saturday, 9 May 2009 12:43 (fifteen years ago) link

But who can hope to understand new wave if they don't understand punk? Sigh...

I was still more rock and roll than anyone needed for the album (Bimble), Saturday, 9 May 2009 12:44 (fifteen years ago) link

I was in a lot of pain in NYC in October, but I played some Lou Reed, and he got me through it. I felt peace because of him. I was only into the Coney Island Baby album then.

Sorry, Alex. I know you don't like Lou much.

Rock & Roll Heart is my fave album of his. But I can't even think about playing him now. I'm not even in the right mood for him.

I was still more rock and roll than anyone needed for the album (Bimble), Saturday, 9 May 2009 12:46 (fifteen years ago) link

TEARS FOR FEARS

I was still more rock and roll than anyone needed for the album (Bimble), Saturday, 9 May 2009 12:47 (fifteen years ago) link

tears for fears are playing a winery here in No Cal next month. I'm sure the tickets are $100 a pop; is there any reason at all to go, or will it be painful?

akm, Saturday, 9 May 2009 14:04 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

I was about to poll Tears For Fears singles thanks to the 89/90 Modern Rock #1s poll and went "wait, didn't someone do this before...?"

the more we change, etc

also these guys are still awesome

Tina Tina Cheneuse (DJP), Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:23 (thirteen years ago) link

er 88/89, ykwim

Tina Tina Cheneuse (DJP), Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link

you kick with it, man

e.g. delete via naivete (ledge), Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:35 (thirteen years ago) link

I still can't believe we forgot to put Tears for Fears on the Best of the 20th century poll

Help! I'm a bug (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 16 December 2010 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

tempted to repoll all the zero vote songs

that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Friday, 1 June 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link

I'd only vote for "Woman in Chains" though.

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 June 2012 15:21 (eleven years ago) link

Can't wait for Adam Levine's remake of that.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 June 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

"Woman in chains, because I'm a sensitive and non-sexist guy and because they asked me to"

Mark G, Friday, 1 June 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link

so taaaaaaalk to herrrrrrrr

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 June 2012 15:31 (eleven years ago) link

Inspired by the re-emergence of this thread I played "Woman in chains" for the first time in years, and once the song kicked in around the 40 seconds mark I thought "This sounds like..." and dashed off to the link piece between "What you want" and "Soon" and they do sound kind of similar.

Rob M Revisited, Friday, 1 June 2012 16:03 (eleven years ago) link

man I consistently underrate how great "Woman In Chains" is

that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Friday, 1 June 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

MEN OF STONE

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 June 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link

"Woman In Chains" is good but you know, "Goodnight Song" is a stellar album closer.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 1 June 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link

I wanted to buy Seeds Of Love when I was a kid, but my mom didn't like the sound of titles like "Woman In Chains" "Badman's Song" and two numbers about knives so I had to settle for a cassingle of the title track.

da croupier, Friday, 1 June 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

four years pass...

so free her
so free her

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 11:28 (seven years ago) link

^ A brilliant moment in a great song.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Friday, 9 December 2016 23:54 (seven years ago) link

Would have voted for 'Advice For The Young At Heart', which has become my favourite TFF song ever.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Friday, 9 December 2016 23:55 (seven years ago) link

yeah it's amazing that one. the story of the making of that album is incredible/nuts.

there was a Guardian piece a while back that posited the notion that Seeds Of Love was at points referencing this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4ht5we3qzY

piscesx, Saturday, 10 December 2016 03:40 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, it's the kind of studio perfectionism that I don't really hear about so much anymore. Which is kinda strange in a way, given that more people are able to make great recordings with home studios, but understandable in another - not everyone has access to the calibre of players on The Seeds of Love!

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Saturday, 10 December 2016 19:35 (seven years ago) link

saw TFF this year live at camp bestival.
f*cking hell they are a boring live act.
i mean really really boring.
clearly a studio only band ..

mark e, Saturday, 10 December 2016 20:49 (seven years ago) link

i loath predictable poll results...

bodacious ignoramus, Saturday, 10 December 2016 23:27 (seven years ago) link

I heard Break It Down Again the other day & I seriously love it. Has a little bit of a Simple Mindsian thing goong on that I can't describe properly

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 11 December 2016 00:09 (seven years ago) link

^ That song is awesome. TFF were my first ever favourite band when I was a child, and "Elemental" was the first album I seriously loved.

Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Sunday, 11 December 2016 00:12 (seven years ago) link

I'm cranking The Seeds of Love now. It's pretty much my favourite TFF LP these days and is their masterpiece in my mind.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Sunday, 11 December 2016 00:18 (seven years ago) link

Elemental is pretty underrated. There's a few excellent songs on it besides Break It Down Again, that would not be out of place on a greatest hits album

Vinnie, Sunday, 11 December 2016 06:09 (seven years ago) link

yeah it's a good album. I prefer it to the albums that followed however more 'legitimate' they are by having Curt Smith involved

akm, Thursday, 15 December 2016 02:04 (seven years ago) link


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