Howard Vs. Thome

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Adrian, please stay on topic.

With Hafner out and Ortiz/Manny vanishing into the Bermuda Triangle:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/batting?split=0&league=mlb&season=2006&seasonType=2&sort=OPS&type=reg&ageMin=17&ageMax=51&state=0&college=0&country=0&hand=a&pos=all

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 10 September 2006 05:31 (seventeen years ago) link

1) Assuming those charts accurately reflect the distance of Howard's home runs, a lot more than a few seem pretty close to just getting over the wall to me.

2) One of the reasons why you adjust for park factors REGARDLESS of whether or not a player's home/away splits "seem" different is that value of a run (or a home run) is DIFFERENT based on where you are playing. If everyone is scoring a lot of runs in Philly then you need to score a lot more runs to win a game there then you do in San Diego where runs are relatively hard to come by.

3) What is that link supposed to reflect, Steve?

4) Haha Adrian why am I banned from I Love Football?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 10 September 2006 14:55 (seventeen years ago) link

lol I have been a grumpy gus lately :( but I am so delighted at this moment by Steve Smith being out for today's game that I have unbanned you.

― FUCK BABY SURI I HOPE IT CHOKES TO DEATH ON HUBBARD WAFERS (Adrian Langston), Sunday, 10 September 2006 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha I couldn't even remember the last time I posted to ILNFL so I was totally lost as to what I had done to deserve to banning.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 10 September 2006 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks for the clarification. It would be interesting to get a HR by distance table. I wonder if anyone does that.

My link was supposed to point to a sorted table of OPS. Howard has now surpassed Ortiz, Manny and Pujols and trails Hafner by 0.003. Maybe yahoo 's table is better:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/stats/bycategory?cat=Batting&conference=MLB&year=season_2006&qualified=1&sort=25

And just a little FYI, Bonds (who does not qualify since he has 437 plate appearances, 2 less than yahoo's qualification of 439 PA's) would fall in #11th place in OPS.

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 10 September 2006 15:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Howard has passed Pujols in VORP, but he's behind in EqA and WARP.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 10 September 2006 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I totally blame this board btw for me EVEN knowing what the hell any of those are.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 10 September 2006 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

hahaha otm

― FUCK BABY SURI I HOPE IT CHOKES TO DEATH ON HUBBARD WAFERS (Adrian Langston), Sunday, 10 September 2006 17:32 (seventeen years ago) link

What about Runs Created? Win Shares? WE MUST FIND OUT!

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 10 September 2006 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Jeter Factor? Does Howard pump his fist when he gets a hit in the late innings? Quiet leadership is for sissies.

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 10 September 2006 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link

[i]2) One of the reasons why you adjust for park factors REGARDLESS of whether or not a player's home/away splits "seem" different is that value of a run (or a home run) is DIFFERENT based on where you are playing.[/i]

Fair enough, that's a good point that I hadn't appreciated before.

― ojitarian (ojitarian), Sunday, 10 September 2006 22:38 (seventeen years ago) link

He's on pace for 5 more = 62.

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 17 September 2006 23:56 (seventeen years ago) link

re-reading through most of this thread, i was just going to calculate that number. thanks for saving me the trouble.

― mr. brojangles (sanskrit), Monday, 18 September 2006 13:26 (seventeen years ago) link

ten years pass...

welp

― nomar, Thursday, 5 January 2017 18:29 (seven years ago) link

Ryan Howard is putting together perhaps the best offensive season in the past 5 years.
― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Saturday, September 2, 2006 11:33 PM (ten years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

― ein Sexmonster (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 6 January 2017 15:17 (seven years ago) link

how quickly shasta forgot barry bonds

― mookieproof, Friday, 6 January 2017 15:39 (seven years ago) link

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