tipping

I don't think people should be publicly shamed for being crazy pastors until they are doing things worse than not tipping

I'm ok with huge public shamefests for small offenses.

I think she was publicly shamed for being a complete sanctimonious jerk and/or jerking money out of someone's hands to make a trite and unconvincing point about the way the industry that person works in is run. It's like if your cab got someplace and you just got out and ran away without paying because in your ideal world, there would be a government-provided network of driverless cars paid for out of a tax on greenhouse gas emissions. And PS, God.

I applaud the idea that you can't just go around jerking people around and insulting them and never get called out on it.

xsp she runs a 15-person storefront church, there's a good chance she already is doing horrible shit

Everybody otm

Xp cept casino (sorry dr)

And only cos i didnt agree with yr analogy at all, nothin personal like

Also just, I mean, special circle of hell who have beef with automatic gratuity on large parties, are surprised by it, or try to weasel out of it. Grow up.

Haha no worries, it was weak, i can't do this shit on a phone really

Mandatory tips are dumb
Passive aggressive notes to service staff are nasty and small
Posting work shit on the internet is begging for the sack
Tithing is for maniacs

tipping is a social custom whereas you legally owe money to a cab driver

it's a good social custom but crazy people break social customs a lot that is part of being crazy

The one time in my adult life when I wanted to join a church, I showed up for a few Sundays in a row, but then they had am entire sermon about tithing. Never went back.

Fwiw the large-party gratuity is part of the bill and not 'social custom' any moreso than sales tax or the overpriced Chocolate Thunder Down Under.

as long as it's written on the menu, yeah

"Sorry, M'amm. Your baggage exceeds our maximum weight limit. You'll have to pay an extra $30."

"THE LORD DOESN'T MAKE ME PAY FOR EXTRA BAGGAGE."

"M'amm"?

impatient apostrophe

I was going to follow up with "I apologize, T'it" but that seemed to obvious even for me

fwiw she wasn't stiffed, you can't really avoid being charged an automatic gratuity fee afaik

and mandatory tips are not dumb are you serious? a party of 20 might've been one of her only tables that shift, or her only table.

Chocolate Thunder from Down Under? You, sir, do not know your Applebees from the obvious Australianisms of the Outback Steakhouse

always good when the reddit internet can exercise its hatred of christianity and its sublimated racism while also claiming to be on the side of little guy in the service industry

Mandatory tips are dumb

Even on smaller, 8-person tables, you'll have others but if you get stiffed on a $100 tab, at most restaurants in the US the serving is losing ~$5-6 for the privilege of waiting on those people. I think in the early '00s I was tipping out 3.5% to the general staff plus 5% of bar sales to service bar.

Parties of 6 or more seem to get autotipped everywhere I go at home, also in UK (where it's an automatic service charge).

Strangely, during the time I waited/bussed tables (and also during the 15 years my sister, who sometimes says racist things, was a waitress) I never once heard of this concept of black (or church) people being stingy tippers. So until there were internet messageboards, I did not know this was a thing.

Gawker also covering itself in glory with stereotypey/racisty commenters (though I grant some of them may have only started posting to Gawk on the thread in question).

sad lols :-(

Gawker commenters in general seem to be just as dumb and offensive as Reddit posters.

except for Fleshbot commenters, they're class acts

oh man, I had forgotten about the existence of fleshbot between say 2008 and now!

I guess I never realized fleshbot was a gawker thing

oh wow, and clicking on links delivers livejasmin chat pop-ups.

fleshbot is no longer a gawker thing, got sold a couple years ago

did the buyer leave a tip?

left just the tip

strange that music and porn were the two subject areas gawker couldn't make work in covering -- both media most beset by mass illegal file sharing, right?. i guess wonkette didn't succeed enough either, but the gawker main covers plenty of that beat itself.

kinda talking out my ass here

i cant really speak to idolator, for fleshbot (and to some extent wonkette) the big issue was ad sales -- hard to sell ads around politics or porn. for fleshbot in particular, the only ads you can sell are porn ads, so its difficult to do strong independent journalism and still make a living, plus you cant sell inventory across the sites in your network. plus there was a point where gawker was doing some pretty good porn-industry journalism and i think it became clear that... whats the point of having the site if flagship is doing the journalism on its niche

I see where y'all think that mandatory tipping isnt dumb but it v clearly is.

it is dumb but that is how it works here, and shafting the server is not an appropriate response to its stupidity

its not mandatory, its automatic. its a small but distinct difference.

I wouldnt stiff the waitress or anything, when in rome etc, but when i leave rome i reserve the right to say 'rome does shit dumb'

fair

i would love to go to rome

I"M GONNA MAKE ME A 'ORRIBLE POST ABOUT IT TO ME ILXOR CHUMS

it's not the autotip that's dumb, it's the fact that servers are legally allowed to be paid below-poverty-level wages (just reiterating the obvious here)

but if tips are mandatory u miss out on the karma boost

i love auto-gratuity because it makes it so easy to leave super-tip

Canadians are pretty blah, Phil.

Here's a tip: screw you! ;)

Whoa, whoa, whoa! Keep it down with that salty Canadian language.

I knew right after I posted that I couldn't have come up with a more Canadian joke, sigh. But I tip well at least.

canadians are pretty eh, phil

lol at FFM thinking she's "canadian"

lol at mh thinking I'm a "she"

Lol at all of you for thinking this is not a dream