HBO adaptation of Game of Thrones - will this be just for nerds? (NO SPOILERS PLEASE)

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the books aren't fine lit, but they are absolutely better than the tv show. Most of the places where the tv show deviates from the novels are missteps.

Moodles, Thursday, 31 January 2013 22:45 (eleven years ago) link

guess you haven't gotten to the 4th one yet

zero dark (s1ocki), Thursday, 31 January 2013 22:45 (eleven years ago) link

since the tv show hasn't done the 4th book yet, it remains to be seen whether they can improve upon it or not. I'm not super optimistic. I guess they could find a way to make both the 4th and 5th books shorter, that would be an improvment...

Moodles, Thursday, 31 January 2013 22:48 (eleven years ago) link

they should take the 4th and 5th books and condense them into the first 10 minutes of the 4th season opener

zero dark (s1ocki), Thursday, 31 January 2013 22:49 (eleven years ago) link

BTW, I got copies of the first 4 books for Christmas and am eagerly looking forward to re-reading them

Moodles, Thursday, 31 January 2013 22:50 (eleven years ago) link

the showrunners seem pretty savvy, i have some faith in them to cut the bullshit when they get to the parts where the books slow down

ciderpress, Thursday, 31 January 2013 22:50 (eleven years ago) link

hopefully so, but they've found ways to add in their own bullshit, so it will be tricky.

Moodles, Thursday, 31 January 2013 22:51 (eleven years ago) link

so the fact that I haven't finished book 3 even though I'm halfway through it basically makes me a war-criminal y/n

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 31 January 2013 22:55 (eleven years ago) link

it is kind of bullshit if you love the show and consider the books beneath you.

no way show significantly better than these terrible books

Mordy, Thursday, 31 January 2013 22:56 (eleven years ago) link

I have physical and digital copies if the first book, and still haven't started it

The New Jack Mormons! (kingfish), Thursday, 31 January 2013 22:57 (eleven years ago) link

mildly entertained by this show, could not give less of a fuck about the books tbh

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 31 January 2013 22:57 (eleven years ago) link

More or less everything good in show is straight from the books, and they've added a lot of questionable shit. You're kidding yourself if you think otherwise

Number None, Thursday, 31 January 2013 22:59 (eleven years ago) link

ppl who like the books must be liberally skipping sentences, paragraphs and entire chapters of tedious, boring, repetitive prose

Mordy, Thursday, 31 January 2013 23:00 (eleven years ago) link

the books are pretty great imo but i prefer the show slightly

christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 31 January 2013 23:00 (eleven years ago) link

i really could only get as far as i could (first third of fourth book iirc? maybe didn't even finish the third book) skimming

Mordy, Thursday, 31 January 2013 23:02 (eleven years ago) link

i like both. more lemon cakes in the books which is nice

zero dark (s1ocki), Thursday, 31 January 2013 23:24 (eleven years ago) link

they are both pretty much exactly equal in terms of quality

zero dark (s1ocki), Thursday, 31 January 2013 23:25 (eleven years ago) link

Books don't have terrible sexposition scenes

Moodles, Thursday, 31 January 2013 23:43 (eleven years ago) link

On the flip side, the tv show avoids GRRM's habit of repeating everything a million times

Moodles, Thursday, 31 January 2013 23:44 (eleven years ago) link

not nearly enough boobs

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 31 January 2013 23:44 (eleven years ago) link

in the books, I mean

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 31 January 2013 23:45 (eleven years ago) link

on the flip side, the tv show has lots of sexposition scenes

Mordy, Thursday, 31 January 2013 23:46 (eleven years ago) link

The show's they should take the 4th and 5th books and condense them into the first 10 minutes of the 4th season opener

― zero dark (s1ocki), Thursday, January 31, 2013 10:49 PM (58 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

Seriously those last two books could have easily been one book.

The show does a pretty good job of paring down the books, so I actually look forward to seeing them condense the 4th and 5th.

bleh (latebloomer), Friday, 1 February 2013 00:02 (eleven years ago) link

The TV Show comes out a measured pace, it might even finish by the time the books do - if I buy the existing books I'll just be jonesing for the next five years.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 1 February 2013 00:40 (eleven years ago) link

It's true, reading all the books and then wondering if this nonsense will ever be resolved is basically the worst

Moodles, Friday, 1 February 2013 00:44 (eleven years ago) link

so the fact that I haven't finished book 3 even though I'm halfway through it basically makes me a war-criminal

y

in the pay of the Bloody Mummers tbh

brownie, Friday, 1 February 2013 01:24 (eleven years ago) link

don't even consider them beneath me, just know they are something you read at the pace of a sports biography rather than joyce or whatever.

― Ballboy to Afghanistan (LocalGarda),

Some people read Joyce in a day.

SOPA Middleton (Leee), Friday, 1 February 2013 01:57 (eleven years ago) link

five hour energy

it was very clear that it's a sarcastic song (forksclovetofu), Friday, 1 February 2013 03:13 (eleven years ago) link

also holy FUCK
http://imgur.com/a/XfCkQ

it was very clear that it's a sarcastic song (forksclovetofu), Friday, 1 February 2013 03:40 (eleven years ago) link

i was all ready to say something snarky about that but it is actually kind of awesome

zero dark (s1ocki), Friday, 1 February 2013 17:08 (eleven years ago) link

one of the most hilarious additions to the show is the abundant sexposition

Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Friday, 1 February 2013 17:10 (eleven years ago) link

^ dvd cover quote

zero dark (s1ocki), Friday, 1 February 2013 17:11 (eleven years ago) link

The books are great but a little bit cold at heart, there is a certain infernal-machine-of-folly aspect that keeps him from being one of my favorite fantasists. That's really more to do with my temperament than a failing on his part.

At times I feel like the show is this story's best manifestation but then I remember what they did with the first Danaerys-Drogo sex scene and I'm like no fuck these guys forever. They haven't pulled something on that level in subsequent shows though.

hibernaculum (Jon Lewis), Friday, 1 February 2013 17:20 (eleven years ago) link

dunno if this was already posted but it's super cute - Sansa, Arya and Bran doing a dorky beatbox to the opening theme, from Season 2 dvd commentary i think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnKxlncdZoM

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 1 February 2013 17:25 (eleven years ago) link

By the Seven, I'm going to wish I were at home so I can watch that in is full stereo glory.

SOPA Middleton (Leee), Friday, 1 February 2013 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

We estimate theres around 3000 unique buildings, all hand made and all fully decorated on the interior.

Holy fuck @ this.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 1 February 2013 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

I did read and love the first book, but it took me way too long to finish, so I'm happy to segue over to the TV show for the rest of the story. I actually found the book pretty hardgoing and difficult - the stop/start chapter format kind of sapped my momentum. (By comparison, I breezed through The Stand.)

The guy who does the audiobooks is totally hammy but in a really excellent and charming way - I think that might be the optimal ASOIAF delivery method.

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 1 February 2013 20:53 (eleven years ago) link

Audiobook spoiler: Tyrion is Welsh.

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 1 February 2013 20:54 (eleven years ago) link

fully expect Martin to die without finishing the series tbh

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 1 February 2013 20:55 (eleven years ago) link

another one for Sanderson to mop up

Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Friday, 1 February 2013 20:56 (eleven years ago) link

the second book is better than the also-excellent first. starting 'a storm of swords' soon, hoping to finish before season 3 so i don't get inadvertently spoiled.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 1 February 2013 20:58 (eleven years ago) link

once you move on to the second and third books, the first one starts to feel more like a prequel.

Moodles, Friday, 1 February 2013 21:15 (eleven years ago) link

The guy who does the audiobooks is totally hammy but in a really excellent and charming way - I think that might be the optimal ASOIAF delivery method.

This is Roy Dotrice; he is basically a god IMO

hibernaculum (Jon Lewis), Friday, 1 February 2013 21:31 (eleven years ago) link

fully expect Martin to die without finishing the series tbh

JESUS, SPOILERS MAN.

SOPA Middleton (Leee), Saturday, 2 February 2013 01:59 (eleven years ago) link

I'd be happy with more redheads, tbqfh

The New Jack Mormons! (kingfish), Saturday, 2 February 2013 02:04 (eleven years ago) link

I'm on the last book, and keep putting off reading it so that I can stay in that world. Which on reflection is a bit sad.

oh hai (captain rosie), Monday, 4 February 2013 11:28 (eleven years ago) link

The second and third books are the best in the series, although I've been putting off reading the fifth until the sixth is truly on the horizon.

My point above was simply that if you are SO CONCERNED about spoilers (it's just a tv show guys), then go out and read the books. You either care about this story, or you don't. Being invested in the tv show and not reading the books is weak. Saying, "I make time to watch television, but not to read novels," will not gain my respect.

Sure, GRRM is not Faulkner. Nor is he trying to be. But he's an immaculate craftsman and storyteller. I haven't had a writer's hooks that deep in me for a while. Literally could not wait to read what would happen next, until I reached the fourth book, which I consider the "methadone" book.

For my money, the best literary fantasy stylist is Gene Wolfe. And you can stack him against Joyce and Faulkner and literally anyone else you can think of.

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

Fingers crossed that when this series is complete, HBO will option Wolfe's Book of the New Sun next. It could use more boobs too.

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

i read lots of books. i'm also enjoying this TV show, and enjoying being surprised by it. i don't need some sanctimonious asshole criticizing any of the above. thanks!

sean gramophone, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 20:36 (eleven years ago) link


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