The RIAA Armageddon has begun

I remember swearing off itunes almost a decade ago after hearing how terrible stuff like martha argerich and the velvets 3rd album sounded on it

what sucks hardest about this for me is that I got spotify premium specifically to listen to opera. Decca? DG? that's a lotta opera at 96k.

I got it mainly for the Bluenote jazz

I dunno maybe you guys should try listening to some metal or sumthin

Maybe one day I will give metal a go when I'm older

Bluenote = a UMG label

Aero there's still shit tons of vintage live opera labels on there. And EMI/Virgin and Warner and Sony/RCA.

anybody noticed sonic probs on watermarked promos? I haven't yet.

if only anyone on this message board wrote for any widely-trafficked music or political websites or print magazines

sound the alarm you guys, this is vandalism

― Milton Parker, Thursday, January 31, 2013 8:54 PM (Yesterday)

Maybe one day I will give metal a go when I'm older

this post will be underappreciated

Anyway, yeah, this is horrific and this should be a much, much larger story than it is.

it seriously pisses me off but what the fuck can anybody do

Man, I knew Spotify sounded weird!

does last.fm have the same problem? I don't listen to the radio there but I was just about to get a subscription... (seems like it should, right?)

IMO this deserves its own thread

this is nuts!!

the difference waveforms sound really cool

The only thing I can imagine is maybe apple making a stance against it the same way they changed their stance towards DRM.

Though ironically it seems that's when UMG began watermarking, when DRM went out of fashion...

i wouldn't be surprised if a lot more of this sort of thing has happened post-drm tbh

I wouldn't even care one damn bit if it actually were an 'inaudible' watermark!

is this grounds for some kind of legal action? say from ascap or someone. i know 0 about publisher/artist agreements and copyright law.

Seems like more grounds for legal action from ppl who have spent money on defective flacs, M4As and MP3s.

yeah, this is a nice class action suit waiting to happen

sue these assholes for a change

one thing that really annoys me about these filesharing sites going down is that now I can no longer find stuff digitally that I already paid for/previously purchased in other formats. like, I'll be fucked if I'm going to give the Rolling Stones any more money just because I would like to hear Beggars Banquet on MP3 and my cassette copy is dead

Along those lines, it's so much easier for me to download a boxed set than to sit in front of my computer feeding CDs (which I already own and paid for) in one at a time.

Hence the Amazon AutoRip thing...

If I bought it from Amazon, right?

Yeah you have to have bought it through Amazon. Cute idea though.

It's quicker to download a CD than it is for me to actually go to the basement, dig out the box, find it, and rip it. In fact, it's usually quicker to download it than do any one of those steps.

either way the metadata is always off, like [DISC 2] of what, hmmmm????

the library of congress does a better job than all these idiots and it doesn't actually own anything

Doh i just lost another video i had done to youtube. I had taken vocals from a Beatles song and rewritten the backing track to be performed with videogame samples. It was pulled offline this morning. Doesn't surprise me, but it still kinda sucks.

damn totally noticing this UMG shit now :(

listening to Gaucho by steely dan and it's very noticable.

ugh the thought of hearing watermarked cybergunked gaucho is so sad

very very noticeable esp on the female backing vox :(

I have been asking around

Universal is also doing this to the soundtracks of all of their cinematic release films to prevent bootlegging. They're utterly open about it inside the industry, it's mandatory for all their partners, though clearly they don't want it to get out that they are compromising audio quality for the sake of copy protection.

This is an even more critical application for them: bootlegs & torrents of films that are still in the theater are a huge revenue loss. But their solution is to do this, across the board, to all of their films.

Arguably this impacts films more, where the soundtracks are of a greater dynamic range, because this is most audible during the quiet parts, and there are more of them in films.

insanity

it's like pissing on your sandwich so nobody else will eat it

isn't that just an Aussie thing?

It's not to prevent bootlegging per se, right, it's to be able to tell where the bootleg derived from?

Milton thank you for digging! Any everyone itt. I am so glad ppl care about this fuckery.

today is the day, apparently.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/02/25/six_strikes_copyright_enforcement_system_launches_will_throttle_your_bandwidth.html

http://www.dailydot.com/news/copyright-alerts-how-to-download-upload-hide/

VPN, here I come!

yay local ISP

^^^^

I wish we had a local ISP still.

But for all the hullabaloo about the CAS, there’s really only one action it flags. The program will try to catch anyone who uploads an established, copyrighted file using peer-to-peer (P2P) file sharing software, such as BitTorrent.

Not anyone who pirates using a file locker service like Megaupload. Not anyone who only downloads from P2P file-sharing services. Not even someone who slightly alters a file, uploads it for a short while on a P2P program, then stops before someone who works for the CAS notices.

Just uploaders.

Really? Still? I mean, awesome, America will just be leeching off of the rest of the civilized world. Some more. (smugface)

I'd always heard it's uploading that gets you in trouble. It's not downloading the new matchbox 20 album (what, just me?), it's sharing it with everyone else.

Right, that was what they were suing about before. I'm just surprised they're continuing with that and not going after downloaders as well.

I think it's pretty hard, with bit torrent. You're downloading from dozens of places at once, in bits and pieces. But if you have something and you're sharing it, not just bits of it but all of it, you're a much easier target.

Reminds me of a story my dad told me of getting pulled over in the middle of the night in Texas. He'd been speeding through the desert when he saw the cop lights, and per local law, they had to go wake up the judge to settle things that night. Everyone's tired, everyone's tired, and my dad asks, after paying up: "Everyone out there was speeding, too, so why did you pull me over?'

The cop's answer: "we'll get them next time."

if you torrent, and share the torrent pieces as you get them (per default), then your ip address is visible unless you've taken some measures to hide it. whether or not you're flagged (e.g. to receive a warning via your isp, passing on the threat from the copyright holder) depends on whether someone is dedicating any resources to noting that you have been uploading (even as a torrent user). i suspect, from past experience, that this is more likely the more high-volume a thing you're stealing. (more commercial, more downloaders, closer to commercial release dates, etc.)

PrivateInternetAccess gets me speeds pretty much identical to not being connected to a VPN, fwiw.

you guys could just stop stealing shit