I like Third and Fever Ray most of all but I voted Kaputt because I don't like whinging
― formed arses (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 1 February 2013 13:02 (eleven years ago) link
It's not whingeing, it's the righteous fist of justice
― lex pretend, Friday, 1 February 2013 13:07 (eleven years ago) link
I agree w you re: "Let England Shake" but every time I turn on the internet there's a "let's take him out back and"
― formed arses (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 1 February 2013 13:09 (eleven years ago) link
Destroyer is the only one of these I don't really love. It's between Sound of Silver and Third for me, it's a close call.
― Kitchen Person, Friday, February 1, 2013 11:44 AM (1 hour ago)
Exactly how I feel. Sound of Silver hits so many of my sweet spots but Third is so high drama. The tours for both these records were two of my 00s highlights.
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 1 February 2013 13:21 (eleven years ago) link
what is about destroyer particularly that everyone hates? is it the voice?
do all these people also hate roxy music and the psb?
― monotony, Friday, 1 February 2013 13:25 (eleven years ago) link
kinda interesting that big boi was #1 here a few years ago and didn't even chart this year
obviously the album dropped really late and was pretty cruddy but still
― monotony, Friday, 1 February 2013 13:29 (eleven years ago) link
You could always use thisILx'ers Top Albums of 2003
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 1 February 2013 13:53 (eleven years ago) link
xp I love PSBs and Roxy but I hate Prefab Sprout and that's what Kaputt sounds like.
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 1 February 2013 13:56 (eleven years ago) link
I really dislike the Destroyer dude's voice, it reminds of some horrible slimy thing wheedling at me. The music has that awful cloying quality that you get from a lot of that sort of wide-eyed, brightly coloured post-Deserter's Songs North American indie. It feels plasticky but not in a good way. If it had just popped up at #9 I doubt I'd have cared but it beat the album I consider to be the best of the last five years at least, one whose emotional register Destroyer couldn't get anywhere near even if he wanted to.
― Matt DC, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:08 (eleven years ago) link
If we'd held a poll for 2003, I imagine Speakerbox/The Love Below would've won. Or maybe Fever to Tell. Or Elephant? I dunno. 2003 was a pretty bountiful year.Kish Kash would've won by a mile, based on the then ILM user base.
― Jeff W, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:11 (eleven years ago) link
it's between Kaputt or Silent Shout
― Jamie_ATP, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:13 (eleven years ago) link
xxp I can see how you feel about Destroyer dude's voice is a big thing in how you feel about that record, but I think the production sounds a lot more like (and consciously tries to evoke) say Avalon-era Roxy more than recent US indie. But then I really like that record. Obv Bejar should be shot on Lex's command, though.
For me Portishead > The Knife > Destroyer > Fever Ray > Kanye > the rest.
― Neil S, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:15 (eleven years ago) link
what is about destroyer particularly that everyone hates? is it the voice?do all these people also hate roxy music and the psb?― monotony, Friday, 1 February 2013 13:25 (46 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― monotony, Friday, 1 February 2013 13:25 (46 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
It's precisely because we like PSB and Roxy Music that we don't like Destroyer AFAIK.
― dog latin, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:16 (eleven years ago) link
yes, because it's not possible to like all three, is it.
― Neil S, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:18 (eleven years ago) link
also who is this "we"
― Neil S, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:21 (eleven years ago) link
I don't like Roxy Music either to be fair.
Peak-era PSBs are unique, no one who tries to sound like them is ever any good.
― Matt DC, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:21 (eleven years ago) link
fair enough. I've never particularly heard a PSB influence in Kaputt, but there we go.
― Neil S, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:22 (eleven years ago) link
yes, because it's not possible to like all three, is it.― Neil S, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:18 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Neil S, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:18 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
You know what I mean.
Actually I don't hate Kaputt, but it def wasn't better than LES. Never mind.
― dog latin, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:24 (eleven years ago) link
I like PSB, but I've never heard Roxy Music, so I don't know what this Kaputt is supposed to be like..? Is it like synth-pop?
― Tuomas, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:28 (eleven years ago) link
Some shocking Roxy Music ignorance OTB
― dog latin, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:30 (eleven years ago) link
Tuomas, Kaputt sounds like Neil Tennant singing on extended pure-pop songs that some say are labyrinthine and confessional, others say tedious and self-obsessed.
― dog latin, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:32 (eleven years ago) link
The idea "The Streets = the British Chief Keef" just popped into my head
I know that's not really accurate but still, lol
― Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Friday, 1 February 2013 14:35 (eleven years ago) link
xp Except Bejar doesn't sound at all like Tennant. This is where I need DJP's vocal-technique expertise to explain why.
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 1 February 2013 14:37 (eleven years ago) link
I don't get any PSB comparison to Destroyer at all, DL is correct, "Kaputt" sounds like Prefab SproutI love Prefab Sprout and love Destroyer but Kaputt is not even my fifth favourite Destroyer record
― formed arses (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 1 February 2013 14:39 (eleven years ago) link
I haven't listened to much Destroyer but iirc I'd peg him as Tennantesque
― Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Friday, 1 February 2013 14:39 (eleven years ago) link
yeah never heard that either. I can see how people might think he sounds smarmy, something I don't think Tennant could ever be accused of, intonation and vocal styling aside.
― Neil S, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:39 (eleven years ago) link
I don't really hear the PSBs in Kaputt either.
You can't swing a cat in London without hitting a British Chief Keef, half yr technically limited lumpen grime or road rap MCs would lay claim to that. I mean not to the extent that anyone buys their records but still...
― Matt DC, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:40 (eleven years ago) link
on the subject of sounding like the pet shop boysi quite like the sound of arrows, who mirror their peak work pretty much
― nathey, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:42 (eleven years ago) link
big boi really sticks out here, other than that these are all pretty much awesome (i know i listened to the streets once in lolcollege but have no memory of them. don't care tbh)
1 third2 college dropout3 kaputt4 kaleidoscope dreamother 3 i like pretty equally
― manti 乒乓 (k3vin k.), Friday, 1 February 2013 14:45 (eleven years ago) link
Tennant is who I hear and who Bejar appears to be drawing much of his influence from on Kaputt IMO. He might not have quite Tennant's range, but I don't think you have to be an expert on vocal-technique to hear it in his inflections. It appears to be a very deliberate aping of Tennant's laryngeal English style. Even that "Sounds, Smash Hits, Melody Maker, NME" line not only sounds like Tennant in terms of tone and accent, but it also parodies the meta-pop tradition that PSB were good at (not to mention Tennant's association with Smash Hits itself). I can't remember if he sang like this on previous records or not?
― dog latin, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:48 (eleven years ago) link
i would be down for a 2003 poll, amazing year for music. didn't trap muzik come out in 03? that's my number 1
― manti 乒乓 (k3vin k.), Friday, 1 February 2013 14:53 (eleven years ago) link
Doing a 2003 poll now would feel wrong, these things need to be contemporary, not just because the voter demographic has changed markedly.
― Matt DC, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:55 (eleven years ago) link
ha, welcome interstate managers <3
― nathey, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:56 (eleven years ago) link
Lets do the 10th anniversary of 2003 poll!
Can we, uh, give it a month or so, though? I think a bunch of us will wanna relisten to a bunch of things, plus I think a good number of us (just me? ok.) might be suffering from a bit of poll exhaustion. Either way, participation may be greater if there's some time to get it together.
― Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Friday, 1 February 2013 14:58 (eleven years ago) link
make it stop
― Ballboy to Afghanistan (LocalGarda), Friday, 1 February 2013 14:59 (eleven years ago) link
if there isn't a lot of popular support for this, though, we may as well stop it.
― Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Friday, 1 February 2013 15:00 (eleven years ago) link
Bejar has more bass in his voice than Tennant and phonates more, but there is a strong latter-era-PSB flavor to the way he is singing on "Chinatown"
― Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Friday, 1 February 2013 15:01 (eleven years ago) link
I feel like I should vote for Kaputt just because it gets dumped on so much. I listened to "Blue Eyes" on the way home from work yesterday and it's still great!
Probably the album I've listened to the most on here is Arular.
― Moodles, Friday, 1 February 2013 15:05 (eleven years ago) link
Definitely a strong Al Stewart vibe with Destroyer.
― Moodles, Friday, 1 February 2013 15:06 (eleven years ago) link
Arular, but that's really a placeholder for the obviously-robbed Kala. In any case, it's the only one of the 10 that I really love. Like/respect many of the others.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Friday, 1 February 2013 15:06 (eleven years ago) link
xp Ok, maybe it's 50% Tennant and 50% something else that I can't stand. I think I resent this record exactly because it was pitched to me as PSBs + Avalon Roxy, which sounded fantastic, and then it wasn't that at all. But I'll stop dumping on it now.
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 1 February 2013 15:12 (eleven years ago) link
I don't know what it is about the album that evokes this imagery but listening to Kaputt makes me think dude is singing to an audience of his stuffed animals
― Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Friday, 1 February 2013 15:13 (eleven years ago) link
Kaputt makes me think dude is singing to an audience of his stuffed animals
This accounts for a lot of North American indie post-1998 or so anyway.
― Matt DC, Friday, 1 February 2013 15:16 (eleven years ago) link
the rest is composed and played by the stuffed animals
― Hermann Hesher (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 February 2013 15:20 (eleven years ago) link
― Matt DC, Friday, February 1, 2013 3:16 PM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
don't you mean ~childlike wonderment~, lol
― lex pretend, Friday, 1 February 2013 15:48 (eleven years ago) link
and then they sent it to Pink Floyd
― Mark G, Friday, 1 February 2013 15:50 (eleven years ago) link
xp not much childlike wonderment with Kaputt FWIW, more enervated disillusion.
― Neil S, Friday, 1 February 2013 16:01 (eleven years ago) link
Silent Shout changed me.
― with perhaps the exception of r-r-r-r-rhythm (Sanpaku), Friday, 1 February 2013 16:57 (eleven years ago) link
i preferred you before
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 1 February 2013 17:01 (eleven years ago) link
Third
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Friday, 1 February 2013 17:05 (eleven years ago) link