House Of Cards TV Series

i think they released it to critics early... nyt had a big review yesterday morning

Missed this until now, only saw the NYTimes feature on it and a bunch of other reviews yesterday saying "OK, as we get through all 13 hours..."

Man I eat this stuff up.

Crits got two episodes.

There are some etiquette questions surrounding this. What can I talk about and it not be considered a spoiler?

Was wondering about this, too. Everyone will be watching on their own schedule.

I'd say just establish a date when this thread goes from no-spoilers to full-season spoilers. Or start a spoilers thread. Either one?

I plan on watching 3-13 in the next couple days, personally.

Really enjoyed the first ep. NYTimes review got this one all wrong.

I'm 3 in and enjoying it if not exactly convinced of where it's going. Felt a huge difference between Fincher and James Foley.

aw dang, they switch fincher out? i'm in the second ep and was getting so psyched for a 13-hour fincher movie

Foley directs a few, some other guy I can't remember, and...Joel Schumacher...

uhhhh

That was my reaction

The cinematographer is the same, so the palette remains but Fincher is too idiosyncratic to not notice the difference.

Not a spoiler, but episode 3 deals with the infamous Peachoid of Gaffney, South Carolina. Never expected to see that.

Ok so 2 eps in I think the show is really good but I am also worried abt it being tooooooo cynical and cold hearted. Like both spacey And robin wright ex-penn are super Machiavellian manipulative archetypes and they're married and for some reason have this weird routine where she puts out his cigarette. Like Kate Mara is obv the ellen parsons character but

When I get through with u

friend who loved the original hating this one so far.

you… owe… i…

2 eps in and it is super cold. Also somewhat simple. Like they keep referring to this bill as simply "education". Hey prez, what bill are you going to try to push through first? Will it be FOREIGN POLICY, DRUGS, or EDUCATION?

People don't talk about politics like that. It nags at me.

later on they start calling it by name occasionally.

super cold is awesome. this is p. dope. all-at-once release is kind of a weird experience though. i expect it to get less talked up than a 'normal' show.

I loved the first & 2 episodes in this one is nearly as good. Spacey is great. Maybe the Foley episodes will change my mind.

IIRC in the early stages of its existence the healthcare reform bill was mostly just referred to as... "Healthcare reform." Meanwhile now Obama is working on... "immigration." There's a lot that feels wrong or off abt its depiction of politics (and even more of journalism) but that's not one imo

"The first" = the original series

bit ~on the nose~ in places but that's maybe to be expected

ploughed through the first two epis; on board for now at least

the Gaffney, SC stuff is kind of lol. Spacey's accent not very Gaffney at ALL.

he's good though!

reined in spacey is best spacey. the boiling underneath spacey. fell asleep watching the first one last night but will resume tonight. i hope they had lots and lots of creative meetings about the whole turning to the camera thing. could definitely do without it. a voiceover would have been enough.

Like the turning to the camera thing. Very Richie III

Or maybe Lovejoy. Either way!

yeah, there are some parts where it works and others not so much

it takes me out of things. i'm easily jarred/distracted though.

i totally dig the turn-to-the-camera but i maybe im used to it from the og series

i haven't seen this remake altho i totes will but yeah i generally like turning to the camera fine because of, yes, richard 3

think spacey was a good idea

it's used p gratuitously though - like there's a speech in which a turn to the camera aside is used as an intercut midway through & you sorta wonder what it is it's meant to be undercutting, whether they've built up a setting just to facilitate it being undermined. & there's still something about spacey's voice that makes those asides seem pretty clunky, like they have the exact same formula of syrupy inflection & downhome idiom every time.

whether they've built up a setting just to facilitate it being undermined

well... yeah? i mean what else are they gonna undermine, its not a documentary

sure. but I just mean that there's a kinda limit to many sassy asides we need given that they're part of the same structure as everything else, ie spacey implicitly acting tactically & in a mischievous way elsewhere. if they only serve to remind you of the guy's machiavellian streak that's fine, they do their job, but there are times at which it's hammering one note a little too hard, like we don't need so much blunt exposition. this isn't a big criticism, anyway, i am down with yeah, there are some parts where it works and others not so much

spacey's accent sucks

It's bad but he's good in the role so it doesn't distract me much. I'm used to terrible phoney-baloney southern accents at this point.

besides the streak i think they need the asides to remind you of the plan - after a while it can be not too obvious that this is somehow all designed to be a grand plan to fuck the president or someone over in some complicated unspecified way.

how poorly cast does the president dude seem

it's like a bizarro world where jon huntsman won

first ep made this seem decidedly duff

Is that good?

is duff good

no not really

Spacey is a terrible actor and this got off to a slow start but once the intrigue got going I was hooked.

ian richardson was just so fucking good at making you feel privileged to be invited into his confidence. it was thrilling that someone so clever would seem to be On Your Side and in turn it made you want to be On His Side, which neatly mirrored the game he was playing with the reporter, so that you had no doubt why she got so sucked in. he may have been evil but he was just deliciously so; you were almost ready to just join him and let the world be damned. if he had started by breaking a puppy's neck i'm not sure that would have worked. they sort of failed to allow spacey to charm you at the beginning, which seems like a pretty big mistake. that said, this is a different show and i'm going to watch the hell out of it and try not to compare. but it's hard!

It’s been a weekend of this interspersed with the m b v album, and I’ve worked my way through all of them. Enjoyed this a lot, and love the method of delivering it. I thought the ending was very underplayed though.

Spacey's accent is so distractingly hilarious.

i was hoping for a total overthrow of the government, american society, etc.

Ok, episode and a half in now. It works for me if I pretend that Spacey is so evil that he's faking a southern accent (because, uh, i don't know).

If he was Roy Cohn gay, that'd be a good twist, too.